x370 taichi reset on cold boot
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Topic: x370 taichi reset on cold boot
Posted By: wavetactic
Subject: x370 taichi reset on cold boot
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2017 at 7:00am
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" rel="nofollow - Seems like all my settings/overclocks seem to reset on cold boot regardless of what I change. I am able to boot and stress test just fine, then restart and slowly increment clock speeds or maybe ram and stress test again. Then at the end of the day when I shut off my computer. No matter how mild the overclock, the x370 taichi will do a couple of boot loops and reset my settings. When this does happen getting into the bios seems to be extremely laggy/choppy and takes quite some time to post. (reset also happens when I overclock through ryzen master) I have the latest bios update at p2.40 and my pc is running an R7 1700, 1080ti, x370 taichi, gskill flare x 3200. Would this be a defective motherboard or is this a software issue?
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Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2017 at 8:38am
I have experienced the same behavior sometimes with my X370 Killer SLI/ac board, using a 1700X and G.SKILL FlareX 3200 memory. In my situation, I have not fine tuned the memory enough (apparently) to run at 3200, and get much better memory stability at 2933. My CPU OC to 3925MHz is not the problem. While the FlareX memory stability at speeds above 2933 are partially at fault, the source of the boot loops and option resets is the AM4 Advance Boot Training option, enabled when set to Auto, the default. Disabling the AM4 Advance Boot Training option (OC Tweaker screen) has caused the boot loops to stop, as well as the UEFI option setting resets. At least it has for my board, memory, and UEFI version, which has the same AGESA update as yours. Any failure of the training (which should be related to the memory only) will cause both the CPU and memory OC settings to be reset, as you have seen. Why both CPU and memory OC settings are reset, I don't know, that simply seems to be how it works. The difference in disabling this option is memory instability will cause a quick BSOD in Windows. If your memory is stable, you shouldn't get a BSOD. Unless your 1700 CPU is very poor for over clocking, or your VCore is too low, IMO a slight memory instability is the only problem you have. As you said, even a small CPU OC seems to fail POST, but in my experience a failed CPU OC fails very early during POST, and never gets to the Boot Training phase. IMO that option is of questionable value, and I suggest disabling it for a few days to see how the PC behaves. ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow"> 
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wavetactic wrote:Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2017 at 2:07am
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i have a taichi as well and i get similar issues when i try to tighten the ram timings up e.g. my ram is gskill cl15 and at cl15 its fine but if i try cl14 it will restart(warm boot) fine all day and run any stress test fine yet a cold boot will boot-loop and reset all settings so i suggest try loosening up the ram timings a little (try cl15 or cl16) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: wavetactic
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2017 at 2:26am
| I actually do have advance boot training off. Only time I got a BSOD was when I tried fir 4ghz for fun. It just all strikes me as strange. I have just been leaving it at stock as of now. But at that point I would've gladly payed extra for like 1700x or 1800x. |
Posted By: wavetactic
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2017 at 2:28am
| Well I got the GSkill Flarex because its on the QVL. So I was hoping the xmp would work fine out of the box like I've seen on other forums. Maybe I'll try loosening the timings see if anything changes. |
Posted By: oile
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 12:55pm
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Sometimes it happens here too ------------- R5 1600 3.9 1.32v-Taichi-16gb LPX-1060-TT850w |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 2:07pm
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Its the UEFI recovery failsafe kicking in after X failed post attempts. Like the others said, your RAM is probably at the heart of it. ------------- 
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Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 7:10pm
| The only times this happens to me is when my PC decides for some reason that it doesn't like my Ram OC and when having Boot Training enabled at the same time. |
Posted By: BoneCrusherXes
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 7:52pm
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same problem here. If i manually set 3200 timings and disable boot training it works fine until i try a cold boot, boot then fails and defaults are loaded. But its only the cold boot, if i load my custom profile after that i can reboot as often as i want without a problem. I now run the XMP auto settings, this works reliable for me. Only problem with that is the bios needs 2 training cycles on each reboot but well, i can live with that for now. I have not yet been able to figure out which setting causes the problem with the cold boot. I tried to manually set all timings exactly the same as after a successfull cold boot, but it still fails. ------------- ASRock X370 Taichi, AMD Ryzen 7 1700X @ 3,9 , Noctua NH-D15 2x16GB G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZ @3200 14-13-13-26-42 1T GearDown Enabled MSI Geforce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G |
Posted By: wavetactic
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 11:19am
| Interesting. For the last week or so my MB has been taking extremely long to boot up. like 80+ seconds. So I am starting to think it has some sort of defect. I have only tried the auto xmp settings so I might try setting it manual see if anything changes. |
Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 12:01pm
You're getting 80+ seconds startup time with AM4 Advance Boot Training disabled? Disabling AM4 Advance Boot Training made a night and day difference in the PC startup time.  I think the Windows (8.1, 10) fast startup feature, which is only active from a cold boot, may be related to the cold start, startup problems. What else do you have connected to your board? As in drives, what is the OS drive? Do you have some unusual USB devices connected to the board? Or multiple devices in the PCIe slots? ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: wavetactic
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 5:05pm
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I believe it booted fine like the first time. As of now I just leave ultra fast boot with everything else at stock settings except for am4 boot training. I leave that disabled so that I could atleast overclock my ram through ryzen master. With ultra fast boot it's about 6-7 second boot up regardless of am4 boot training. The only thing is I cant access my bios on boot with ultra fast boot enabled. And I have just left it like that since the bios is extremely laggy and and feels pretty much unusable. I keep going back every other day see if anything has changed but it's still pretty unbearable to traverse that bios. I have even tried to reinstall the 2.4 update. Just messaged newegg see if I can get an rma. The only thing I have connected to pcie would be my gtx 1080ti. 500gb 850 evo as my drive. I don't have anything unusual plugged in either. Very simple build imo Boot drive, CPU, stock cpu fan, GPU, gflarex ram, case fans/case usb literally just about everything connected to the main board.
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Posted By: wavetactic
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 6:40pm
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-Update Seems like my MB actually was defective. The 3.00 update actually allowed some of my overclocks to persist which was a nice surprise. The bios still took way too long to post (the 3.00 update with flash utility took about an hour). So I ended up doing an RMA with newegg. And so far everything is great!! My bios is actually usable now instead of the extreme lag felt before, boots quickly, and my overclocks persisted even before I updated to 3.00. Thanks everyone for the input!
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Posted By: Zendal
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2018 at 9:19pm
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Bios 4.40. Same problem with cold boot resetting default settings with overclocked RAM that is tested and stable. Standard reboots work just fine. Tried with CMS on/off and Auto RAM training on/off. Same issue with 4.41 Beta If I immediately enter BIOS when it's done cycling all my previous values are still there so I just have to save and exit and then everything works as expected. Kind of annoying, honestly. |