Considering X370 Taichi, few questions
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Topic: Considering X370 Taichi, few questions
Posted By: Dutch-Stoner
Subject: Considering X370 Taichi, few questions
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 2:36am
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I've been looking for an good quality motherboard for an 1700X with nice memory speeds. Not really into OC-ing, but I just love overkill and durability. My main goal is to do some lighter/indy gaming, lots of firefox, maybe start running a VM and an older random server. I do plan to leaving the pc on 24/7, and I usually get 7-10 years of usage from new bought hardware. (mobo/CPU/memory and PSU) At first I didn't even consider the Taichi, because of the brand. (I considered it a sub top brand) But after seeing many different reviews on youtube, it has become my number one choice. It seems this board is overkill, and it "should" be good for OC-ing. With lots of headroom and durable components. This is something I really like. But I do have some questions... I am considering building a custom computer case "from scratch". Might salvage some minor mounting brackets, but I am going to build the frame out of copper and brass water pipes. As pannels, I am considering real thick leather/hide. You might even call it Steampunk inspired. And there this motherboards really shines me thinks. But... When mounting any kind of GPU, the most detailed parts of them gears on the Taichi will be covered. This makes me really be like:  On page 25 of the manual (http://asrock.nl/downloadsite/Manual/X370%20Taichi.pdf) it tells us to put the primary GPU in PCIE slot 2, and an optional SLI/Crossfire card in slot 3. (considering an GTX 1060, 6 gb card, which will be replaced in ~4 years with a then current gen mid ranged GPU) TLDR/1: will the X370 Taichi work with a single GPU in slot 3, and how much would it impact on performance. "They" have lots of nice pictures of the motherboard on their website. I get that, marketing people want to feel usefull. But this does get me wondering. http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/ Scroll down a fair bit, and you will notice some info about "Nichicon 12K Black Caps". They have a lifespan of at least 12.000 hours, 20% moar then is normal. But after getting my calc.exe out, it's only 500 days... While I usually got between 7 and 10 years (24/7) from new bought, non-OC-ed motherboards before getting some issues. TLDR/2: can I expect (not guaranteed) ~7 years of 24/7use (without OC and good airflow + every 6 months a good cleaning) out of an Taichi motherboard? Is it expected? Getting fast memory to run fast on Ryzen, has been difficult at best. I've also seen some guy (affiliated to gamers nexus?) hit some really nice high speeds on his Taichi motherboard. But it took alot of time, and I'm not that kind of a guy. It needs to ~work out of the box. TLDR/3: If I buy validated high speed memory, how difficult will it be to get it to run at specified (or at least very nice) speeds? I usually don't reboot at all. In fact, my current pc doesn't even have an on/off switch. (PSU switch off/on, and it will boot as if there was an random power loss) And I'm always a bit paranoid that there will be issues after an reboot. It's just who I am. TLDR/4: Are current drivers and BIOS updates good enough to get very nice performance out of the X370 Taichi? If I am really carefull and if I would tape off all soldering spots, would it be possible to paint the current white graphics? (orange/copper, to fit the case) Thanks for reading, looking forward to them replies. It will infuence my discisions. |
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Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 2:52am
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Pg 31 of the Manual shows that you cannot run a single GPU setup in PCIE3. My board (The Killer SLI A/C) is the same. You must use PCIE2. The Taichi is the only other board I would consider replacing mine with if something were to happen to my Killer SLI. It was out of stock though when I built my system which turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I don't need the upgraded audio (I only use my monitor sound) and the power delivery on my board is top notch for much less money. It would be cool to have the debug screen on the mobo though. If I were to order a motherboard today it would be the Taichi. Not because I need it. Because I want it haha. Ram speeds are very acceptable now. I am running Hynix based DDR4 3200 in my board at 3066. I haven't stabilized 3200 yet because I don't really know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Dutch-Stoner
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 3:04am
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" rel="nofollow - @AlbinoRhino Your page 31 may be different from my page 31 from the online .pdf file. When I go to page 31, it is talking about LED fan headers of some kind. Please could you check in the online version as I've linked in my topic, or provide me with a screenshot? |
Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 3:30am
Lol ok. In my PDF reader it is page 31, but on the documentation it is pg 25. Do you see where PCIE3 shows "NA" under Single GPU? I was told that slot cannot work outside of a dual configuration setup. That slot runs (3.0) at x8 only. You want to use the slot above it, PCIE2 for (3.0) at x16.
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Dutch-Stoner wrote:Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 3:35am
This is mine with PCIE3 unpopulated: https://imgur.com/gallery/dMBUC |
Posted By: Dutch-Stoner
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 3:50am
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So we looked at the same thing. Point/question is... I know it's supposed to go into PCI-e slot nr 2. And that it will then run on 16x. But would it work (not optimal) in PCI-e slot nr 3, and if so, what is the performance penalty with an 1060 6gb. |
Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 8:24am
I'll try it in the morning to find out. |
Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2017 at 8:39am
| http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus" rel="nofollow - http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus |