x370 Taichi & Corsair
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Topic: x370 Taichi & Corsair
Posted By: Fuad
Subject: x370 Taichi & Corsair
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 4:11am
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" rel="nofollow - Hello, I'm about to get x370 Taichi, and I already have 4X4 16GB: corsair DDR4 cmk16gx4m4a2666c15r http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-4x4gb-ddr4-dram-2666mhz-c15-memory-kit-red-cmk16gx4m4a2666c15r I had those with my X99 pc that recently died, they have 2 xmp profiles: 2666 and 2800 will they work with x370 taichi and hopefully at 2800 MHZ? Thanks! |
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Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 4:22am
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Check the memory QVL here for the Taichi: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#Memory" rel="nofollow - http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#Memory Anyway, you can try before purchasing new memory, but XMP settings on those are for Intel processors, so is not guaranteed it can boot out of the box at OC settings on Ryzen.
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Posted By: Fuad
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 5:33am
Thanks Nangu, I did check it before posting and did not find my model, but what I don't understand is that the ram are DDR4, why wouldn't they work? I don't have time to order a board and test my rams and then find out they are not working and then wait again for new ones to arrive, so in your opinion what are my odds? |
nangu wrote:Posted By: Fuad
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 5:37am
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" rel="nofollow - Also, kindly any recommendation for compatible low profile 32GB ram? |
Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 10:52am
If only all DDR memory was so generic that it could work with any system! DDR3 memory is not generic enough to work with every system that uses it. The memory controller which is part of the CPU has specifications for the memory chips used in memory modules. Those specifications are a bit complex, and is something we rarely see besides in datasheets that might be available from a memory manufacture, and the processor manufacture. Normally memory is sold as compatible with a board's chipset, like X99, which also includes the compatible processors. So the memory is matched to those memory controllers. Not that each processor has different memory chip requirements, but that is only one part of memory compatibility. Also, define what it means for memory to work with a platform? Your memory will most likely work at its default speed with Ryzen, which for X99 memory is 1866 - 2133. But it is less likely that it will work at higher speeds, and once in the Ryzen memory OC territory, over 2667, that's when it is much less likely to work. Just read some of the many threads in this forum about Ryzen memory compatibility and issues over clocking memory on Ryzen. That is the main issue we have with Ryzen. You said you wanted to use 32GB of memory, but did not specify a speed. Does that matter to you? Here's an unofficial website that matches existing memory with Ryzen chipset boards: https://rymem.vraith.com/" rel="nofollow - https://rymem.vraith.com/ Here's one from AMD: https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-06/am4-motherboard-memory-support-list-en_0.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-06/am4-motherboard-memory-support-list-en_0.pdf And of course your board's memory QVL list: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#Memory" rel="nofollow - http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#Memory I am very reluctant to suggest a model of memory for Ryzen to anyone, mainly because the maximum speed it will reach is such a variable that cannot be accurately predicted, mainly for memory over clocks, but in general too. One main hint is memory that uses Samsung B-die memory chips works best with Ryzen. Next, the more memory you use (over 16GB), the more difficult it is to have it at a faster, over clocked speed. All memory speeds above 2667 are memory over clocks for Ryzen processors, and are not guaranteed. If you can run memory at 3200 with Ryzen, you are doing very well. Beyond 3200 is extremely good, and rare. 2933 is a common limit for many Ryzen users, with 16GB of memory. My G.SKILL 3200 FlareX 16GB (2 x 8GB) memory, designed for Ryzen, will not easily work above 2933. Without knowing what type of memory chips your X99 DDR4 memory uses, and the speed you want, estimating the odds of it working without any other information (ie, other users experience) is simply a guess. The lists I provided above are the best we have currently. Most if not all memory manufactures have not updated their existing, older memory product's information as compatible with Ryzen. ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Fuad
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 2:25pm
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Thanks Parsec for the great explanation & links, for me if I can get the ram kit work & stable at around 29** Mhz I will be happy. The problem I am facing is that I am constrained to low profile ram because of my cooler, the only available options I have in my place are: 1- HyperX Predator 32GB (16 x 2) HX424C12PB3K2/32 DDR4 2400Mhz CL12: 318 euro Listed in Taichi compatibility list 2- HyperX Predator 32GB (16 x 2) HX424C15FBK2/32 DDR4 2400Mhz CL15: 277 euro Listed in Taichi compatibility list 3- HyperX Predator 32GB (16 x 2) HX426C13PB3K2/32 DDR4 2666Mhz CL13: 324 euro Listed in Taichi compatibility list 4- HyperX Predator 32GB (16 x 2) HX426C16FBK2/32 DDR4 2666Mhz CL16: 300 euro Listed in Taichi compatibility list 5- HyperX Predator 32GB (16 x 2) HX430C15PB3K2/32 DDR4 3000Mhz CL15: 313 euro UNLISTED in Taichi compatibility list, same model but 16GB is listed. 6- Corsair vengeance lpx 32GB (16 x 2) CMK32GX4M2B3000C15 DDR4 3000Mhz CL15: 280 euro UNLISTED in Taichi compatibility list These are all the options I have, please help me decide (I will not hold you any responsibility) at least you know better than me. Thanks! |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 2:08am
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" rel="nofollow - as a suggestion will the gskill trident z clear your cooler ? (im pretty confident its lower profile than those hyperx rams) i am using 2 x 8 gb 3200 cl15 and its been very very stable since day one bios version 1.5 onwards (on my taichi) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Fuad
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 2:32am
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" rel="nofollow - Thanks Datonyb, can you post the model number? Edit: how about these? https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3000c15d-32gtz |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 4:18am
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well to be fair none of us is brave enough to state for 100% sure fully compatable ram allthough what we have learned is the most sucessful ram seems to be brands containing samsung dies/chips and of them the chips labelled samsung E dies you wont get these in 16 gb stick is seems, also to be certain of samsung b dies with gskill ram it seems you need to choose 3200mhz and faster and the timing/latency of cl15 or cl14 sounds confusing not really its because samsumg make the nicest chips for ram so the faster ram with lower latency tends to need samsung dies.... the model number of my ram is f4-c3200cl15-16gtz this is a 2 x 8gb set though so only 16 gb another guy near me also has exact same ram kit and shares the same if not better experiance with them if i were to offer my best advice that would be gskill tridentz ram or flarex or *GOOD* team group ram (overclockers uk has been having reliable results using these in there kits) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 4:26am
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ive just checked on rymem website (this is a database of actual users and there results) and this guys using these ram kits/sticks got 3200 cl14 with 32gb F4-3200C14-16GTZ (this is the software reported identity number of each stick) the actual kit should be labelled retail as f4-c3200cl14-32gtz validation link ......... http://valid.x86.fr/beqes1" rel="nofollow - http://valid.x86.fr/beqes1 https://rymem.vraith.com/detailed_ram/737" rel="nofollow - https://rymem.vraith.com/detailed_ram/737 ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Fuad
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 5:07am
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" rel="nofollow - Hi Datonyb, The closest option to what you mentioned in my place is: https://www.amazon.de/G-Skill-F4-3000C14D-32GTZ-Speichermodule-DDR4-32GB/dp/B01ASWPIH4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502743847&sr=8-1&keywords=g.skill+ddr4+32gb Those are 372 euro (very expensive), what do you think? |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 7:06pm
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well i found the kit i mentioned in germany and a bit cheaper than the slower kit you found http://www.warehouse2.de/de/arbeitsspeicher/ddr4/ddr4-3000/32gb-ddr4-3200-kit-g-skill-f4-3200c14d-32gtz-trident-z" rel="nofollow - http://www.warehouse2.de/de/arbeitsspeicher/ddr4/ddr4-3000/32gb-ddr4-3200-kit-g-skill-f4-3200c14d-32gtz-trident-z the trouble your facing is 32gb is expensive relatively for any brand 32gb and add to that the speed puts quite a premium on top 2400/2666 is a lot cheaper here is the list of autherised gskill sellers in germany https://www.gskill.com/en/wheretobuy/list/de" rel="nofollow - https://www.gskill.com/en/wheretobuy/list/de ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 7:09pm
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sorry for not finding more links but my i lack the skills to read german im afraid allthough today i learnt memory is called arbeitsspeicher  ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Fuad
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 8:59pm
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Wow! thanks Datonyb for the great help, I was about to give up on 32GB and get 16GB until the rams get more mature. Seems I have some shopping later today, Thanks again man! |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 1:05am
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well 16gb is easy answer f4 c3200cl15-16gtz  ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: pharsalus
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 11:42am
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I'm glad you guys were having this conversation, because it helped me realize it was time to throw in the towel on trying to get the Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (4x8) kit I've been wrestling with to work. I've got the Taichi X370 and that kit, and it started off solid enough. 3DMark worked, along with a few other stress tests and benchmarks - all green, all excellent. But not long into it, I started having real instability problems - OS would hard lock, POST sequence would get slow and reboot several times in a session, etc. I've pulled out everything except the basics and tried about a bajillion different combinations of modules and slots, using ASRock and others' recommendations, and all I can get out of it are D2 and 55 board codes (memory initialization, and MAYBE PCH initialization, based on my searching). Every once in a blue moon, after reseating, clearing, etc., it'd get back into the UEFI, where it'd insist my RAM (the one or two modules max I could get it to POST with) was DDR4-2133. I'm returning the kit to Amazon and am going to try the G.Skill FlareX 2x16 32GB kit. I'll let you guys know how/if system stability improves. Thanks for all the great links and info, though - I didn't expect this kind of info to be quite so hard to nail down. :( |