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Topic: Overclocking on B350 Pro4
Posted By: Zach1928
Subject: Overclocking on B350 Pro4
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 9:30pm
" rel="nofollow - [URL=][/URL]I'm trying to OC my R5 1400 on the B350 Pro 4 with no luck. Using Ryzen master, it'll go to 3.7ghz @1.3v with seemingly no issues. However it doesn't consistently apply the profile. I went into the UEFI on the OC tab and manually set the speed to 3700 and the voltage to 1.3, and the machine refused to even post. Am I missing something here? This is my first time, but it seems fairly straight forward for modest improvements.

System specs
R5 1400
8gb DDR4 2666mhz
BIOS is 2.6

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Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2017 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by Zach1928 Zach1928 wrote:

" rel="nofollow - [URL=][/URL]I'm trying to OC my R5 1400 on the B350 Pro 4 with no luck. Using Ryzen master, it'll go to 3.7ghz @1.3v with seemingly no issues. However it doesn't consistently apply the profile. I went into the UEFI on the OC tab and manually set the speed to 3700 and the voltage to 1.3, and the machine refused to even post. Am I missing something here? This is my first time, but it seems fairly straight forward for modest improvements.

System specs
R5 1400
8gb DDR4 2666mhz
BIOS is 2.6


What version of Windows are you using?

For manual over clocking in the UEFI, try using a VCore of 1.35V. Your board's manual is not up to date with the new UEFI versions, so I cannot tell what new options you have. Do you have a VCore mode of Offset, and an LLC option? If so, try using Offset mode, at 1.325 - 1.350V, with LLC at 1 or 2.

You can also try setting Cool n Quiet to disabled, and C6 Mode to disabled. Set SVM Mode to disabled.

It's possible that your memory is border line compatible, and the CPU OC causes it to fail POST. What model of memory are you using?

I don't know what problem Ryzen Master has at times. The latest AMD chipset drivers can be found here:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows+10+-+64

Your board has a new UEFI version, if you want to try it:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#BIOS" rel="nofollow - http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#BIOS


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 12:17am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

Originally posted by Zach1928 Zach1928 wrote:

[URL=][/URL][URL=][/URL]I'm trying to OC my R5 1400 on the B350 Pro 4 with no luck. Using Ryzen master, it'll go to 3.7ghz @1.3v with seemingly no issues. However it doesn't consistently apply the profile. I went into the UEFI on the OC tab and manually set the speed to 3700 and the voltage to 1.3, and the machine refused to even post. Am I missing something here? This is my first time, but it seems fairly straight forward for modest improvements.

System specs
R5 1400
8gb DDR4 2666mhz
BIOS is 2.6


What version of Windows are you using?

For manual over clocking in the UEFI, try using a VCore of 1.35V. Your board's manual is not up to date with the new UEFI versions, so I cannot tell what new options you have. Do you have a VCore mode of Offset, and an LLC option? If so, try using Offset mode, at 1.325 - 1.350V, with LLC at 1 or 2.

You can also try setting Cool n Quiet to disabled, and C6 Mode to disabled. Set SVM Mode to disabled.

It's possible that your memory is border line compatible, and the CPU OC causes it to fail POST. What model of memory are you using?

I don't know what problem Ryzen Master has at times. The latest AMD chipset drivers can be found here:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows+10+-+64

Your board has a new UEFI version, if you want to try it:

[URL=http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#BIOS]http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#BIOS[/URL]


I'm using windows 10 with the latest updates. As far as UEFI options, all I've found are voltage and speed. Nothing about offsets, SOC voltage, etc. As far as RAM is concerned, I've got Team Vulcan 2666 which I don't believe is on the QVL, but since updating to 2.6 it runs at rated speeds and I've gotten the timings down with DRAM voltage @ 1.275. I can try moving up the voltage to 1.35 and see if that helps with those other settings tweaked. Ryzen master works if I'm in windows, but it doesn't seem to apply after a reboot for some reason.

Is the newest 3.0 UEFI stable? I've not had any noticeable issues with 2.6 so I didn't update.

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 2:18am

as above really
try the cpu overclock at dram set to 1.35 and the timings exactly what the team ram quotes
i get 3.9 on 1,3 volt cpu (but it would seem im lucky to get it at that low voltage)

to sum up i think your pushing the under volt a little too hard, i would definatley leave the dram at 1.35 myself


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 10:51pm
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:


as above really
try the cpu overclock at dram set to 1.35 and the timings exactly what the team ram quotes
i get 3.9 on 1,3 volt cpu (but it would seem im lucky to get it at that low voltage)

to sum up i think your pushing the under volt a little too hard, i would definatley leave the dram at 1.35 myself


No dice with CPU vcore @ 1.35 and DRAM @ 1.35. SVM is disabled also. I forgot to adjust the timings on the RAM, but I have a feeling it'll be the same result. Basically upon save & exit, the machine just hangs with fans spinning at normal RPM. Is OC'ing on Ryzen impacted by RAM that much? I only dropped the timings from 15-17-17-17-35 to 14-14-14-14-30

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2017 at 11:02pm
" rel="nofollow - have you tried disabling the ram overclock entirely

just to check the ability of the cpu overclcok alone ?
i mean literally setting it at 2133 stock while you test the cpu

i done a system overclock last night with a b350 and ryzen 1600

weirdly enough the ram overclock was insanely easy and extreme 2400 ram clocked to 2933 !

but the initial cpu clock to 3,8 forced a very hard dead pc (needed power down and cmos clear to do anything , even to try and post )
we resolved it wierdly enough by trying a basic schoolboy noob attempt
we literally just slid the multi to 38 and left everything else at auto
guess what instant boot and stable ...go figure !

yet it locked up with volts set nice and cool n quiet etc disabled before that..............


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 12:51am
" rel="nofollow - I'll give it a shot with UEFI at default. I haven't had a chance during the week so I'll try this weekend. In a similar vein, I can't get my RAM above 2666 even with higher timings and voltage so I wonder if there is something related..

Has the 3.0 UEFI update been stable? I'm always hesitant to flash those things, but maybe I'll get some performance increases with better OCing.

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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2017 at 4:37am
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

have you tried disabling the ram overclock entirely

just to check the ability of the cpu overclcok alone ?
i mean literally setting it at 2133 stock while you test the cpu

i done a system overclock last night with a b350 and ryzen 1600

weirdly enough the ram overclock was insanely easy and extreme 2400 ram clocked to 2933 !

but the initial cpu clock to 3,8 forced a very hard dead pc (needed power down and cmos clear to do anything , even to try and post )
we resolved it wierdly enough by trying a basic schoolboy noob attempt
we literally just slid the multi to 38 and left everything else at auto
guess what instant boot and stable ...go figure !

yet it locked up with volts set nice and cool n quiet etc disabled before that..............


Not proud that I'm reviving a 2 month old post.. however I finally did that (reset UEFI to default) and set speed to 3700mhz and voltage to 1.35 and the same thing happens. Save & exit > pc hangs until I use the jumper to clear the bios. Tried again at 3500mhz with same voltage and happens again. What could be going on? My bios is 1.06 agesa (non-a or b versions)

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2017 at 8:32pm
" rel="nofollow - have you tried p state overclock ?
or even just a basic overclock set multiplyer and leave volts on auto just to check whats happening


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2017 at 11:11pm
" rel="nofollow - I've not tried p-state OC. I looked in those settings and was thoroughly confused lol. Could it a UEFI issue, requiring an update to 1.06b? As far as voltages, this board requires you to set them and has no auto option that I've found. For what its worth, Ryzen Master seems to overclock to 3.7 @1.325v, however that doesn't seem to apply consistently (i.e. after reboot, sleep, etc.)

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2017 at 12:32am
heres a video for overclocking on asrock

the second part details p state overclocking

in the text description below video window he lists the hex settings (numbers to enter) for you desired overclock and voltage

e.g. in the 'vid' box of p states you enter 24 to get 1.325volts cpu


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2017 at 12:59am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

heres a video for overclocking on asrock

the second part details p state overclocking

in the text description below video window he lists the hex settings (numbers to enter) for you desired overclock and voltage

e.g. in the 'vid' box of p states you enter 24 to get 1.325volts cpu


Thanks! However the hyperlink doesn't seem to be working- can you re-post it?

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2017 at 1:14am
arh the hyperlink isnt working as i didnt even paste it into the window Embarrassed


my bad !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Tw-wcT7o4


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2017 at 2:25am
" rel="nofollow - Thanks! Also (off topic), have you seen anything on when AGESA 1.07 is slated for release?

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2017 at 3:17am
strangely enough no

theres no whispers on the net that ive seen yet


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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 4:05pm
" rel="nofollow - I have the same problem, where you alter the values of Vcore and Frequency, and you try to save and restart, it doesn't even do that - it just becomes a black screen. Same board as OP. I use Ryzen Master as a stop gap measure.

Have you found a solution? Does P-State or 1006b work?


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by superannoyed superannoyed wrote:

" rel="nofollow - I have the same problem, where you alter the values of Vcore and Frequency, and you try to save and restart, it doesn't even do that - it just becomes a black screen. Same board. I use Ryzen Master as a stop gap measure.

Have you found a solution? Does P-State or 1006b work?


your using a taichi ?
bios v3 or 3.1 ?

i have had no issues at all with p states since bios version 1.5 onwards


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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 11:44pm
No im using the AB350 Pro4. My 1600 is stable in Ryzen Master at 3825MHz @1.35625v but I can't save these values in the bios (3.0).

I'm not sure if there are any bugs pstate oc'ing with this board, and i don't know if there are any issues with 1006b. Confused

its been 5 months since i've built this rig and i might just get a better x370 board since my experience with this board is pretty bad as of rn.

But i would still like to solve this problem...


Posted By: donalgodon
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 1:22am
I'm running a Ryzen 1600 on the AsRock AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX and 3.10 update and I was able to overclock to 3.7 stable with simply changing the multiplier in the UEFI and rebooting.

Strange how different some people's experiences with almost identical hardware is. Confused


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 2:15am
Originally posted by superannoyed superannoyed wrote:

No im using the AB350 Pro4. My 1600 is stable in Ryzen Master at 3825MHz @1.35625v but I can't save these values in the bios (3.0).

I'm not sure if there are any bugs pstate oc'ing with this board, and i don't know if there are any issues with 1006b. Confused

its been 5 months since i've built this rig and i might just get a better x370 board since my experience with this board is pretty bad as of rn.

But i would still like to solve this problem...


theres more problems trying to clock with 50 and 25 mhz increnments

try at 3800


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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 4:03am
It black screens at any change I attempt to make to the Vcore or Frequency, it only allows me to save and restart if I leave those settings on auto. It's strange because I was able to actually change these values and boot with the same settings the first few times as I was fine tuning the OC, then it suddenly decided to nope me out of BIOS OC'ing because the board obviously hates me LOL


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 4:47am
" rel="nofollow - I've not had a chance yet to try P-State OC but I'm fully expecting to be disappointed. I don't know what's wrong because the OC's seem stable via Ryzen Master so (presumably) the chip can handle the clocks & voltages. @Superannoyed, what UEFI version are you using? I'm reluctant to upgrade past 1.06 because nothing is broken per say, but I want to OC to a modest 3.8 without having to perform some voodoo magic on the stupid computer.

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:15am
I just tried PState0 OC'ing with the BIOS 3.0, and it doesn't work. I set the VID to 20 (1.35v) or 1E (1.36v) and the FID to 99 (3825) and had a lot of trouble booting. When I did, HWiNFO64 told me my clock was at 2800 and my vcore was around 1.375-1.385.

I tried with lower values, and needless to say, it didn't work for me.

I'm inclined to believe this board is just garbage. This was my first ASRock board, and I'm thoroughly disappointed if it won't even let me Save & Exit with the settings. It's stable in Ryzen Master, so it's not the chip being unable to handle the OC. I can't even boot with lower values!

If anything this experience has taught me not to buy a budget board, and just go full out on the best board because this is absolutely annoying.


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:23am
I'm inclined to think you are correct unless ASRock can fix something with an update. It makes you wonder about the long-term reliability as well. Wonder if the cheaper ASRock or Gigabyte X370's are any good, and if the B350 can be sold.

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:25am
I've read that people with similar problems on other boards fixed it with the voltage offset instead of a static one.

As this board lacks Offset, LLC, SOC and a bunch of other things I was not aware that it lacked, this board is obviously not made for OC'ing.

We were juked. I think i may pick up a B350-F or an X370-F. 


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:29am
It's just weird that Ryzen Master can hit the OCs just fine but the UEFI wont even boot using the same exact settings. It's certainly not designed to be significantly pushed, but when a platform is sold as being overclockable for all, it should be overclockable for all rather than some who pay more $$ for premium. Also a couple of these boards sold on eBay pre-owned for $50+ USD so at least some money can be recovered

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:37am
Pretty sure it's some UEFI bug that not a lot of people have, so ASRock doesn't know about it or just don't care. It's also not the Vcore, since I was able to boot into my broken PState after a hard restart, and it displayed the values higher than my actual setting.

I've tried basically everything to fix this problem except flashing 3.20 BIOS, but I heard there's a lot of bugs for that. 

If you plan on upgrading to Zen+ or Zen 2 and OC'ing those, this definitely is not the board for you.

Pretty sad, since before buying a lot of reviews said this thing was good. 

It is good, at giving me headaches. 


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:44am
Lmao you can wait for 1.07 I suppose and hope for the best. I don't know how ASRock handles bug reporting but it may be worth noting. They do however appear to treat these boards as 2nd tier (which they are). I'm really hoping this platform to last a good 4-5 years (my Sandy Bridge laptop lasted 5) and I think an OC will make that very probable. But it looks like that ain't happening with this board.

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:58am
I realize they are "2nd Tier", but this bug is a pretty big issue for owners of this board. Offset, LLC, and SOC missing was fine with me when I first booted it up, as long as I could dial in an OC.

I was also hoping it would last me a good 4-5 years, but nope, guess not.

We also don't know when AGESA 1007 is releasing so that's one of the reasons I may just skip the hassle and buy a different board. 

I guess it's a good board if you're not overclocking, which I guess ASRock thought that most people who OC would just go for their X370's. I'm just really salty because other B350's (and some Pro4's) are actually able to at least POST LOL


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:01am
" rel="nofollow - as i said dont overclock using the XX25 mhz  use solid numbers
eg 3700/3800/3900

heres a guide to pstate overclocking for asrock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Tw-wcT7o4
for 3800 use settings
fid = 98
did = 8
vid = 20

leave everything in oc tweaker alone !


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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:02am
and clear the cmos first
eg jumper pin and battery out


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:03am
I hear you completely. The X370 killer has some 1 star reviews on Newegg noting the inability to OC. The gigabyte x370 K5 looks like a potential replacement candidate. I've had good experience with my Gigabyte RX570 which has OC'd like a dream, for what it's worth.

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:04am
is this just a moan about b350 thread or can anyone join in and actually TRY TO HELP YOU GUYS



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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:09am
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

is this just a moan about b350 thread or can anyone join in and actually TRY TO HELP YOU GUYS



We're commiserating on our experiences lol. I can try those PState settings you posted over the weekend when I've got some time, but I'm expecting the same issue. I watched the vid the other day and turned off the memory training, and the C6 stuff (per the video guidelines) which didn't work.

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:14am
the memory training actually helps now

its a slower boot but stabilises ram on cold boots
ive had to start switching it on for my ram settings (3333 cl14 using 3200 cl15 ram)

just remember leave the volts alone on the oc tweaker page (it really mucks things up after setting p state)

or another way is noob-overclocking  just slide up the multi to 37 or 38 and try it with everything on auto (keep an eye on the vcore though as bios's like to run higher volts than we would like to see)


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:16am
See thats the thing though, is that the only 2 options for OCing are the frequency and voltage. All we can do is manually type in the desired freq. and manually set the voltage. There is no auto option (that I've seen) for voltage, and no multiplier slider for the frequency.

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:16am
As I said I've already tried booting without xx25 increments. I've tried with both PState and manually changing the Core Multiplier. Both don't work.

I've tried booting with lower frequencies and they don't work.

I was able to boot once each time with my PState OC's, first with an OC of 3825MHz @ 1.35v, and second with an OC of 3600MHz @ 1.35v. 

I instead had it downclocked to 2800MHz @ 1.385v.

The bottom line is, if I change the voltage in any way inside of the BIOS, it will not POST. I'm pretty sure the issues stems from setting static voltage, but without offset we can't nail the issue down.

I do appreciate that you're trying to help though. 

Also Zach, this was the guide I used to Pstate OC, you might find it helpful if you are going to try.
https://hardforum.com/threads/ryzen-pstate-overclocking-method-calculation-and-calculator.1928648/" rel="nofollow - https://hardforum.com/threads/ryzen-pstate-overclocking-method-calculation-and-calculator.1928648/
Please come back and post your results if it does work for you.

Thanks


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 7:03am
" rel="nofollow - which one of you is using a very early bios ?
thats not going to help either ,try the later ones with agesa 1006 at least

leave the ram set to auto/ 2133 while testing cpu overclocks

by the way i have NEVER used offset volts
ever since early april and bios revision 1.5

nor did i with both msi tomahawk b350's i overclocked with 1600 r5's

but i do know the incremential 25 and 50 mhz are more hassle than round numbers


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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 7:08am
I'm on whichever version has 1.06 (non a or b). I believe @superannoyed is on 1.06a which doesn't seem any better, hence my reluctance to update. I'll post back the Pstate results this weekend

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 7:21am
bios 2.6 agesa 1006
v3.0 agesa 1006a

only way to get 10006b now is 3.20

for your boards

im on taichi 3.1 the one before the jedec 2666 addition

(our bios numbering seems the same for each addition)

to be honest here with you guys

the early bios were overall very very immature

esp regarding stability (mainly caused by ram)

im here daily and dont mind trying to suggest methods to help you guys iron out the wrinkles


edit
jz still has bios version v3.11 for downloads

http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php


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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 10:48am
Yes I am running BIOS P3.0 with AGESA 1006a


Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2017 at 8:15am
" rel="nofollow - Also, out of curiosity Zach, what type of RAM do you use? Is it listed within the QVL for this board? 


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2017 at 1:00am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by superannoyed superannoyed wrote:

[URL=][/URL]Also, out of curiosity Zach, what type of RAM do you use? Is it listed within the QVL for this board??


I have Team Vulcan 2666, which is not on the QVL last I checked. That being said, I've gotten it to run at the rated speeds and got the timings down to CL14 at a mere 1.275 volts. In my attempts to OC, I reset every thing back to default so I don't think it'd be impacting the OC issue.

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2017 at 3:32am
" rel="nofollow - How did your PState OC results fare?


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2017 at 12:08pm
No dice. I'm giving up until another update rolls around and leaving the MoBo change as an option down the road..

Update: Just found this little http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-preps-agesa-1-7-firmware-to-support-raven-ridge-apus.html" rel="nofollow - nugget

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2017 at 4:40am
I just saw it as well, I think I might as well wait then. 


Posted By: minnesnowta
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 12:53am
Just chiming in that I have the same problem. I can't OC my 1600 beyond 3.7Ghz in the bios. I am getting a seemingly stable OC using Ryzen Master @ 3.9Ghz at 1.425 volts, but  I can't even get 3.8Ghz to post when OCing in the bios and setting the volts to 1.425 and I have to reset the CMOS.

For now, I'm just using Ryzen Master to OC and will hope an updated bios will fix the issue.


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 2:05am
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Originally posted by minnesnowta minnesnowta wrote:

Just chiming in that I have the same problem. I can't OC my 1600 beyond 3.7Ghz in the bios. I am getting a seemingly stable OC using Ryzen Master @ 3.9Ghz at 1.425 volts, but? I can't even get 3.8Ghz to post when OCing in the bios and setting the volts to 1.425 and I have to reset the CMOS.

For now, I'm just using Ryzen Master to OC and will hope an updated bios will fix the issue.


I hope you mean 1.325 volts otherwise that chip will be fried..

Also is there a way to submit a bug to these guys @ forum mods?? Perhaps this can spur along a fix because 3 people with different chips on the same board rules out a CPU issue.

Update: I sent something to tech support with a link to this thread. See if that spurs along a bug fix

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 7:02am
AFAIK anything over 1.45v 24/7 will result in degradation to your Ryzen chip, and anything below that should be fine. But I myself wouldn't go above 1.4v because the extra heat and power consumption only nets me an extra 100Mhz increase, so it's not worth it.


Posted By: minnesnowta
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Zach1928 Zach1928 wrote:


I hope you mean 1.325 volts otherwise that chip will be fried..

I believe anything above 1.45 is the "danger zone". My chip stays below 75 degrees when running prime95 and doesn't break 60 degrees when running PUBG. 

If I lose a year or two out of the lifespan of my chip, I won't mind, especially since I'll probably be upgrading to the next Ryzen chips next year if the IPC is better.


Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 11:50pm
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Originally posted by minnesnowta minnesnowta wrote:

Originally posted by Zach1928 Zach1928 wrote:


I hope you mean 1.325 volts otherwise that chip will be fried..


I believe anything above 1.45 is the "danger zone". My chip stays below 75 degrees when running prime95 and doesn't break 60 degrees when running PUBG.?

If I lose a year or two out of the lifespan of my chip, I won't mind, especially since I'll probably be upgrading to the next Ryzen chips next year if the IPC is better.


Totally up to you, however you shouldn't need to go that high for a stable 3.8ghz OC from what I've seen. Mostly all chips can hit 3.8-3.9 in the 1.35 range no problem. Also, they replied to my ticket about the UEFI overclocking so I'll keep y'all posted if anything comes of it.

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2017 at 10:22am
Awesome, thanks!


Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2017 at 10:54am
Originally posted by superannoyed superannoyed wrote:

AFAIK anything over 1.45v 24/7 will result in degradation to your Ryzen chip, and anything below that should be fine. But I myself wouldn't go above 1.4v because the extra heat and power consumption only nets me an extra 100Mhz increase, so it's not worth it.


I agree that the VCore should be as low as possible for multiple reasons, and ~1.35V is usually enough for 3.7 - 3.9GHz depending on the CPU.

But apparently you did not notice the Auto/default VCore and VIDs. Using a 1700X with an ASRock X370 board, the Auto/default VCore was ~1.45V, with the core VIDs at 1.5V. VIDs are programmed into the processor by the manufacture, so should not allow a destructive VCore to be applied to the processor. Actually, the maximum VID defines the VCore limit that may be applied. Again, way more than necessary, but apparently not outside of AMD's design.



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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 12:49am
From ASRock

"Its able to reach 3900 with voltage 1.36. Also test with 1.34v @ 3900 still working.
However, due to power design the max CPU voltage could reach 1.36 regardless or set at 1.37 or 1.38, the BIOS H/W monitor will shown 1.36 but CPU-Z might shown 1.375
Please see attached screenshot.
Please be advice, the overclocking is not always guaranteed, its depends on adopted components and the whole system configuration."

To give context- he said he got the OC to 3.4ghz at 1.35v or something. ASked if he could try and push more closer to where we are. That is his latest response. Also he is using UEFI P3.2, and RAM is all at 2133

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Posted By: Zach1928
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2017 at 4:47am
Alright so for those who are interested- bios 3.2 works good. OC'd to 3.8 @ 1.35v, and the memory work at 2666 just by turning on XMP. Lowered timings to 14-14-14-14-35 and left the voltage at the 1.2 auto and it works like a dream

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Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2017 at 7:03am
" rel="nofollow - Will try on the weekend, thanks for the update!

Do you have any issues on 3.2?

EDIT: Unfortunately, it doesn't work. This sucks, rather my luck is just cringe worthy. Time to get a new motherboard...sigh


Posted By: arsn
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 7:52am
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Originally posted by superannoyed superannoyed wrote:

I just tried PState0 OC'ing with the BIOS 3.0, and it doesn't work. I set the VID to 20 (1.35v) or 1E (1.36v) and the FID to 99 (3825) and had a lot of trouble booting. When I did, HWiNFO64 told me my clock was at 2800 and my vcore was around 1.375-1.385.

I tried with lower values, and needless to say, it didn't work for me.

I'm inclined to believe this board is just garbage. This was my first ASRock board, and I'm thoroughly disappointed if it won't even let me Save & Exit with the settings. It's stable in Ryzen Master, so it's not the chip being unable to handle the OC. I can't even boot with lower values!

If anything this experience has taught me not to buy a budget board, and just go full out on the best board because this is absolutely annoying.


I get this same bug.

Originally posted by Zach1928 Zach1928 wrote:

Alright so for those who are interested- bios 3.2 works good. OC'd to 3.8 @ 1.35v, and the memory work at 2666 just by turning on XMP. Lowered timings to 14-14-14-14-35 and left the voltage at the 1.2 auto and it works like a dream


Your overclock doesn't stay stuck at 1.35V?


Posted By: superannoyed
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2018 at 9:46am
UPDATE: Updated to BIOS P4.60, and it fixed all my problems.

R5-1600 Stable at 3825MHz @ 1.35625v and was able to get my Coasair Vengeance LED 2 x 8GB ram stable at 2933MHz with timings 16-17-17-17-35 @ 1.35v with XMP.

Great BIOS all-in-all. Finally happy.



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