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Topic: IBT AVX - request
Posted By: Asingo
Subject: IBT AVX - request
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 2:57pm
I need help from Ryzen users. Can you do IBT AVX test? Download it from here so that we all have same
 version.

LINK:
https://files.fm/u/pcaf7hat


Here is http://imgur.com/a/ifieO" rel="nofollow - my results on Standard test. On some forum users told me that I have low memory score (Gflops). On AMD FX these score is around 130 and I have around 110. Can someone test this please?



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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 3:45pm
your link directs me to a page saying i dont have permissions


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Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 3:54pm
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

your link directs me to a page saying i dont have permissions

Sorry, it only work if you are on that forum. I upload it here:

https://files.fm/u/pcaf7hat" rel="nofollow - https://files.fm/u/pcaf7hat


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 4:35pm
sorry like most people i wont download files from unknown sources

however , here is a link for download from majorgeeks website for the same version 2.54

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html


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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 4:37pm
The more memory you have will result in lower Gflops numbers.

I don't have a clue what Ryzen you have, and it doesn't matter much anyways, yet less memory will giver higher numbers.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 4:38pm
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

sorry like most people i wont download files from unknown sources

however , here is a link for download from majorgeeks website for the same version 2.54

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intelburntest.html

Ok, I can do the test from that. I was thinking to put that link but zip file is called differently. I will retest that I will post here. Standard test.


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 4:40pm
well i dont know whats up here but i get
80 gflops and test took 160 seconds

i do have a load of stuff running and a game open though

16gb gskill trident z 3200


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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 4:41pm
Googled some here and this thread says what I did above:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1112172/low-ibt-gflops-2600k-ocd" rel="nofollow - http://www.overclock.net/t/1112172/low-ibt-gflops-2600k-ocd


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 4:46pm
I despise IBT. All it does longterm is shorten a processors lifespan.

So........ Just ran the AVX ver posted by the OP

81.8894

Stock, Defaults all, mem @ 2133, the Ryzen machine in my Sig below.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 5:00pm
Standard test (10 passes) last very short. 

Here is the original link for other forum:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1637134/occt-question/10

There you can see picture of some user with AMD FX that has 130 memory score (1866mhz)

My retest with your link (majorgeeks):

https://imgur.com/a/iq9qr

Now I got even lower score, I don`t get it Angry

More testing form AIDA64:

https://imgur.com/a/oZJEQ





Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 5:17pm
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

I despise IBT. All it does longterm is shorten a processors lifespan.

So........ Just ran the AVX ver posted by the OP

81.8894

Stock, Defaults all, mem @ 2133, the Ryzen machine in my Sig below.


I don`t get it, you get 88 and I get 51 on that test form majorgeeks. Why is that a big difference. IBT AVX test nor reliable?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

Now I got even lower score, I don`t get it Angry


Are you running this on a fully configured machine?

This run, the latest, shows something else memory wise available than your first.

Background processes will compete and give a resultant lower "score".


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 7:21pm
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I don`t get it, you get 88 and I get 51 on that test form majorgeeks. Why is that a big difference. IBT AVX test nor reliable?


Yea. Test to test there you have ~1gb of mem diff. Background processes there must be running.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I don`t get it, you get 88 and I get 51 on that test form majorgeeks. Why is that a big difference. IBT AVX test nor reliable?


Yea. Test to test there you have ~1gb of mem diff. Background processes there must be running.

I close all backgrund programs and in test I got 53 Dead

Her is the picture of my memory timmings:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1637134/lightbox/post/26321682/id/3111474

On that picture geardown mode is set to disabled but in BIOS is set to AUTO

are settings ok for 2400mhz?



Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 12:11am
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I don`t get it, you get 88 and I get 51 on that test form majorgeeks. Why is that a big difference. IBT AVX test nor reliable?


Yea. Test to test there you have ~1gb of mem diff. Background processes there must be running.

I close all backgrund programs and in test I got 53 Dead

Her is the picture of my memory timmings:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1637134/lightbox/post/26321682/id/3111474

On that picture geardown mode is set to disabled but in BIOS is set to AUTO

are settings ok for 2400mhz?



I've been up all night building and configuring a NAS box for a client. To run XPEnology no less. Finally finished. Sorry for the delays in responding. He now has a box running the latest Synology DSM and is configured exactly as a 12-bay DS3615xs. Replete with three 4-port Intel Server NIC's to run Synology's Surveillance Station in viewing and alerting him of intrusions.


Asingo, list out your hardware if you'd be so kind.

When I wake, I'll read your reply.

Night all.





Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 12:29am
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I don`t get it, you get 88 and I get 51 on that test form majorgeeks. Why is that a big difference. IBT AVX test nor reliable?


Yea. Test to test there you have ~1gb of mem diff. Background processes there must be running.

I close all backgrund programs and in test I got 53 Dead

Her is the picture of my memory timmings:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1637134/lightbox/post/26321682/id/3111474

On that picture geardown mode is set to disabled but in BIOS is set to AUTO

are settings ok for 2400mhz?



I've been up all night building and configuring a NAS box for a client. To run XPEnology no less. Finally finished. Sorry for the delays in responding. He now has a box running the latest Synology DSM and is configured exactly as a 12-bay DS3615xs. Replete with three 4-port Intel Server NIC's to run Synology's Surveillance Station in viewing and alerting him of intrusions.


Asingo, list out your hardware if you'd be so kind.

When I wake, I'll read your reply.

Night all.




No problem, it is not urgent. Sweet dreams LOL

My spec are:

x370 k4 - bios 3.1
r5 1600 stock (3.4ghz - sometimes 1-2 cores jump to 3.7ghz)
2x8gb CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 - running at 2400mhz - xmp profile
Ati 7770
Win 10 (ryzen balanced power plan installed)

Here is my AIDA64 memory test:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1637134/lightbox/post/26321670/id/3111426

Here is some more memory test:

https://imgur.com/a/oZJEQ

Latency seems very high?Confused




Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 10:38am
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

No problem, it is not urgent.


Bring the CAS/CL to 15 then 14 and post some AIDA Cache and Memory test shots please.

I'm looking at which way a couple of specific results in them go.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2017 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

No problem, it is not urgent.


Bring the CAS/CL to 15 then 14 and post some AIDA Cache and Memory test shots please.

I'm looking at which way a couple of specific results in them go.


I will try in 2-3 days. I found this:

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/ryzen-instability-solved/117112" rel="nofollow - https://forum.level1techs.com/t/ryzen-instability-solved/117112

very great tutorial for my board and my memory. I will follow that than I will report here


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 1:01am
" rel="nofollow - Wardog, I follow this tutorial for my mbo and ram and I got 2933. Seems stable for now.

Here are the pictures:

https://imgur.com/a/8XaJF

IBT AVX test stays the same (Gflops), why is that? I am worried that you got the much better high score with slower memory? Is that normal? AIDA64 score (MB/s) normal for this frequency?

Opinions?


Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 2:37am
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Wardog, I follow this tutorial for my mbo and ram and I got 2933. Seems stable for now.

Here are the pictures:

https://imgur.com/a/8XaJF

IBT AVX test stays the same (Gflops), why is that? I am worried that you got the much better high score with slower memory? Is that normal? AIDA64 score (MB/s) normal for this frequency?

Opinions?

Your AIDA64 memory benchmark seems to be inline with my own results @2933.

I get a bit better latency, but it's because my 14-16-16-16 timings and 1T Geardown enabled.

I'll try to run IBT this weekend and post my results.

EDIT: Try fFAW = 24 (4 times tRRDS). It worked on my end and lowered latency from 82 to 79ns.


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 2:37am
As I said previously, gflops are more affected by the amount of RAM, than speed.

A FLOPS is actually a measure of "Floating Point operations per Second"

It, gflops, is not a measure of anything more.

Nicely, I think you're spending too much time worrying over very little. There are far more benchmarks that you should be focusing your attention to.


That said, give me those screenies of AIDA if now at 2933 it will let you change CAS/CL to 14. It should maybe at 15 but 14 will change things up big time.




Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 6:22pm
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

As I said previously, gflops are more affected by the amount of RAM, than speed.

A FLOPS is actually a measure of "Floating Point operations per Second"

It, gflops, is not a measure of anything more.

Nicely, I think you're spending too much time worrying over very little. There are far more benchmarks that you should be focusing your attention to.


That said, give me those screenies of AIDA if now at 2933 it will let you change CAS/CL to 14. It should maybe at 15 but 14 will change things up big time.



I don`t understand what are you trying to say??  To give you screenshoot of AIDA64? I put these in my yesterday post...

To change tcl to 14-15?

Also should I change what user nangu tolde me, try tfaw 24?

In that tutorial which I used for this memory tweaking there is a this line:

As for the tRFC, tRFC2 & tRFC4 you may try yo go higher if the current options don't work
tRFC1: 525 tRFC2: 389 tRFC4: 239

or maybe even 
607-451-278
just for the heck of it and see if that improves stability for this RAM chip.

I used first numbers, would it be faster to used the numbers in second row (607-451-278)?



Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 3:17am
tRFC values are dependant on memory speed. Each memory chip has a manufacturer recomended value.

Check this post on OCN: 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/26540#post_26329389" rel="nofollow - http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/26540#post_26329389

On the AMD comunity post, that one which talk about DRAM, they said tFAW can be calculated as 4 times tRRDS. As your tRRDS is 6, I suggested to try tFAW=24, which worked straight for me and delivered lower latency values and a bit higher bandwith.

Cheers.


Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 4:05am
Just tried IBT for you. I got 77 Gflops @2933 14-16-16-30 geardown enabled.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 5:03am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by nangu nangu wrote:

Just tried IBT for you. I got 77 Gflops @2933 14-16-16-30 geardown enabled.

Thanks Thumbs Up

Ok, I will try tommorow maybe. 

You used IBT form majorgeeks site? Can you post aida64 memory benchmark score here?


Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 8:09am
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by nangu nangu wrote:

Just tried IBT for you. I got 77 Gflops @2933 14-16-16-30 geardown enabled.

Thanks Thumbs Up

Ok, I will try tommorow maybe. 

You used IBT form majorgeeks site? Can you post aida64 memory benchmark score here?

You're welcome Wink

Yes I downloaded IBT from the majorgeeks post.

Here my AIDA64 score: https://imgur.com/ILpO26M

Cheers.


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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 8:49am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

[To change tcl to 14-15?


Stay with one tack or another. Keep on with following the other thread you're on now.

Mixing the two, what I ask and what you're already following, won't prove beneficial and instead only complicate what you see and experience there.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 4:57pm
Originally posted by nangu nangu wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by nangu nangu wrote:

Just tried IBT for you. I got 77 Gflops @2933 14-16-16-30 geardown enabled.

Thanks Thumbs Up

Ok, I will try tommorow maybe. 

You used IBT form majorgeeks site? Can you post aida64 memory benchmark score here?

You're welcome Wink

Yes I downloaded IBT from the majorgeeks post.

Here my AIDA64 score: https://imgur.com/ILpO26M

Cheers.

I presume you have larger L1, L2 and L3 score because of the 8 core Ryzen...Clap


Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

http://forum.asrock.com/RTE_textarea.asp%3cmode=quote&ID=35656&CACHE=187" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

[To change tcl to 14-15?


Stay with one tack or another. Keep on with following the other thread you're on now.

Mixing the two, what I ask and what you're already following, won't prove beneficial and instead only complicate what you see and experience there.

I have average knowledge of english but I still don`t understand what are you trying to say....ConfusedConfusedWacko


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I have average knowledge of english but I still don`t understand what are you trying to say....ConfusedConfusedWacko


Work this with one person/Thread.

Do not try this while listening to or following multiple people talking in your ear.

It will only confuse you and cause you to pull your hair out.



Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I have average knowledge of english but I still don`t understand what are you trying to say....ConfusedConfusedWacko


Work this with one person/Thread.

Do not try this while listening to or following multiple people talking in your ear.

It will only confuse you and cause you to pull your hair out.


Ok, you mean about what user nangu advises (tFAW ) and before that my thread on Overclock forum (first I asked there something about OCCT and than discussion turned on memory questions).

I didn`t made any of those changes yet. 

What do you advise me, some more memory tweak on my 2933mhz settings? You still haven`t told me is my score alright for Aida64?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I have average knowledge of english but I still don`t understand what are you trying to say....ConfusedConfusedWacko


Work this with one person/Thread.

Do not try this while listening to or following multiple people talking in your ear.

It will only confuse you and cause you to pull your hair out.


Ok, you mean about what user nangu advises (tFAW ) and before that my thread on Overclock forum (first I asked there something about OCCT and than discussion turned on memory questions).

I didn`t made any of those changes yet. 

What do you advise me, some more memory tweak on my 2933mhz settings? You still haven`t told me is my score alright for Aida64?


Yea. That's what I was trying to get across Tongue


IMO, I like the 14-16-16-30 CAS1. Your latencies are lower and your Mem scores went up. But IMO the Tras is way to low which may be the low cache scores.

Set them using XMP then make the changes.



Care to show me an AIDA of 14-18-18-34 CL/CR1 ? That should be a better improvement.





Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

I have average knowledge of english but I still don`t understand what are you trying to say....ConfusedConfusedWacko


Work this with one person/Thread.

Do not try this while listening to or following multiple people talking in your ear.

It will only confuse you and cause you to pull your hair out.


Ok, you mean about what user nangu advises (tFAW ) and before that my thread on Overclock forum (first I asked there something about OCCT and than discussion turned on memory questions).

I didn`t made any of those changes yet. 

What do you advise me, some more memory tweak on my 2933mhz settings? You still haven`t told me is my score alright for Aida64?


Yea. That's what I was trying to get across Tongue


IMO, I like the 14-16-16-30 CAS1. Your latencies are lower and your Mem scores went up. But IMO the Tras is way to low which may be the low cache scores.

Set them using XMP then make the changes.



Care to show me an AIDA of 14-18-18-34 CL/CR1 ? That should be a better improvement.




So you want me to enter this manully timmings:

 14-18-18-34 

Tras change, nothing for now?

Sorry for lot of questions, not my territory :(


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 8:47am
Yea. Set them up using XMP Profile, and then make the change(s).


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Yea. Set them up using XMP Profile, and then make the change(s).

I used current 2933mhz xmp profile which was already active during my first memory tweaking.

Here it is: 14-18-18-34

https://imgur.com/a/vr8TA

Didn`t test stabillity. Small increase in Aida64. Confused

Did I enter those CL1? Unhappy

What next if this is stable?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 11:39pm
You're changing the Multiplier between tests doesn't help.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 12:17am
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

You're changing the Multiplier between tests doesn't help.

I didn`t change multiplier. That is the boost to 3.7 (one or two core). My cpu is on stock settings. 3.4 and in stress test it jump to 3.7ghz. From the beginning I didn`t touch anything in bios except memory settings and fan temperature.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 2:37pm
bump


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 2:11pm
" rel="nofollow - Wardog?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Wardog?


Sorry man. I hosed my system building a How-To RAID Tutorial.


Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Asingo Asingo wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Wardog?


Sorry man. I hosed my system building a How-To RAID Tutorial.

OK, no problem, I thought you forgotSmile

Seems like 14-18-18-34 is not stable. Last night when I turned on PC it started to shutdown and restarting and it reversed to 2133mhz. Than I loaded my settings before 14-18-18-34 so I am still on 2933mhz. What now? Not urgent, when you have time



Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 3:23am

My memory that was at 2933mhz was stable for 1-2 weeks (didn`t test stabillty in memtest, just played some games). Before 2 days when I turned on PC it entered restart loop mode and it reverted settings to 2133mhz.


 I am slowly starting to give up on this board Confused




Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 4:40am
" rel="nofollow - You're on the X370 K4, right?

What Vdram are you @2933? Which mem slots?


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Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by nangu nangu wrote:

" rel="nofollow - You're on the X370 K4, right?

What Vdram are you @2933? Which mem slots?

Yes x370 K4.

I have this ram CMK16GX4M2B3200C16.

Mem slot are in mbo default (I followed the mbo manual), don`t remember numbers now.

Settings for 2993 I found here (post 19 - this guy used exactly my board and my ram):

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/ryzen-instability-solved/117112/19




Posted By: Asingo
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 8:53pm
" rel="nofollow - Any more solution to my memory problem?



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