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Topic: Asrock x370 Gaming X
Posted By: chubalz
Subject: Asrock x370 Gaming X
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 11:03pm
Hi i need to know what is the cause of delay or not booting sometimes for about 5-10 secs it will restart 1 or 2 times then the asrock post will appear and its ok so on. I just overclock r5 1600 3.6ghz 1.3volts and ram 2666mhz the temp is fine idle about 35c while gaming 55c on stock cooler. I have the latest bios 3.20.

But its running in windows fine.



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Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 11:49pm
chubalz, please post details of your build as in my signature.  I suspect your memory/OC is the problem.  I suspect the delay is caused by the Advanced Training during POST.  You can disable this but I don't know the consequences.  I suspect (too much probably) it is down grading your memory timings to get a successful boot.  Please run CPU-Z and compare the memory settings to what you think you set.  After you post your specifications, I think some memory tuners will help you.  Enjoy, John.


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Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 12:59am
Ryzen 5 1600 @3.6ghz 1.3volts
Asrock X370 Gaming X 3.20 Bios
Gigabyte Aorus Gtx1080ti
Gskill trident Z Rgb F4-300016D-16GTZR
Samsung Evo 250gb
1Tb western Digital Black

Ive tested my gskill trident z oc 2666mhz for 1 week before i overclock my cpu and didnt encounter a problem on asrock post booting. The timing of my ram is default 16-18-18-38

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 1:47am
chubalz, your memory is not on the qualified list but still may run.  Hopefully the memory experts will comment soon.  I would open the BIOS and hit F9 (Load UEFI Defaults) and see if you problem goes away.  You can save your profile first.  Please post your CPU-Z results.  Enjoy, john.


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Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 2:16pm

Before i overclock. I tested it on all stock default frequency on ram and cpu and its stable for 1 month. After that i try to overclock it and have an issues.



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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 5:02pm
try manually setting the SOC voltage (vddcr soc )
mine is set at 1.1volts


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Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 5:28pm
" rel="nofollow - Tnx. What is the use of vddcr soc?. Is it for cpu or ram?.

We have different ram. Is it ok?

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 5:42pm

yes let me explain

the SOC stands for system on chip, it is where the memory controller resides

so we increase the soc volts to beef-up the memory controller ability

i would suggest we overshoot for stability and then when stable we can fine tune and lower the volts back down

so SOC to 1.1volts
and also dram voltage to 1.375 volts

this should bring this cpu/ram settings stable for you

test for a day or so to check and then
drop ram back to 1.35
test day
drop soc to 1.0

if you loose stability at any stage then you know what part is causing it


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 5:46pm
" rel="nofollow - p.s.

your actual cpu volts is within expected range for 3.6ghz

but i worked on a r5 1600 the other day and it needed 1.35 to remain stable 24/7, yet another identical cpu on identical board does it below 1.3 volts both at 3.8ghz

the point im making is you may well find you need to bump the actual cpu up a little as well


p.p.s.
why are you using an old bios version ?
later bios as a rule are better at dram settings


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 6:16pm
" rel="nofollow - Yep. I noticed also in cpuz that sometimes it reach 1.35 volts to 1.38 volts.

So what is ur recommendation of my cpu? Can it reach 3.8ghz on 1.35 volts? Or what? Im using stock cooler

Im using latest bios which is 3.20

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 6:50pm
yes the r5 1600 usually is fine at 3.8 with 1.35 volts

but !

this is not what im asking you to do at the moment

let us FIRST make your pc stable

please try soc at 1.1 volts
dram at 1.375 volts
and test for stability

and test for cold starting/booting
e.g. switch off wait 5 mins and start the pc to check it is doing this correctly


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 7:46pm
Vddcr soc voltage has no option for 1.1 volts. The option is only auto, +60mv, +120mv, +180mv and so on

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:13pm
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by chubalz chubalz wrote:

Vddcr soc voltage has no option for 1.1 volts. The option is only auto, +60mv, +120mv, +180mv and so on


when entering options what does the left coloum say eg 0.900 ?

then add the preset 60mv/120mv to equal 1.1

eg 0.900 + 180mw equals 1.08


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:24pm


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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:28pm


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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:30pm
Their is no number in left column

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:43pm
Had a asrock post problem now after restarting the system. No display on post then after 5 seconds it restart then it has post meaning the dram voltage 1.375v is not the fix.

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:44pm
if you click 60 mv then it will show a number in left then



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Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:46pm
If i click +60mv no number on left

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:49pm


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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 8:58pm
" rel="nofollow - Ive read that in ryzen master has it. Should i try?

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 9:48pm
" rel="nofollow - if you click 60 mv then save exit
restart it should now show a number on left ?


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 10:06pm
Still nothing on the left

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 10:26pm
hmmm weird
usually the value already running should show there

e.g. like your ram values in the pictures


i wouldnt like to suggest what offset value to enter in your bios as i dont use tham on my taichi
mine is far more simple and logical, i simply enter the voltage i want and thats it !
i was happy enough to ask you to try 60mv as its the lowest (safest) increase

im afraid you will have to wait until other people are online to suggest what offset number to use then to end up with 1.1 volt (other people have the same offset volt thing in bios )

*i do wonder very very much ,exactly why and how it is so difficult for asrock NOT to make our bios more similar with regards to these things*

ALL I WANTED TO DO was ask you to try dram at 1.375 volts and soc at 1.1 volts

the bios isnt helping us try and help you Ouch


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 10:28pm
Thanks for the time.

But i can try Amd ryzen master utility. It has SoC option.

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 10:53pm
yes but i dont think it can save settings for the next restart Unhappy

hence why it really needs to be all set up in bios

in the meantime you could try bumping up the volts to cpu ad check that isnt causing an issue
maybe try 1.35 vcore and see if that cures the issue

but i do feel its more related to the ram


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 11:56pm
Correct. It didnt save settings after restart in ryzen master.

I just try now SOC +60mv because i have try +120mv and no post and keeps restarting on post.

Btw the default Soc is .950 volts to reach 1.10 it shud be +120mv but it failed.

Hoepfuly +60mv will give me stable

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 2:00am
chubalz, you can use F12 to take a screenshot in the BIOS.  Have a FAT formatted USB stick plugged into your system.  Enjoy, John.


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Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 2:03am
" rel="nofollow - [URL=][/URL]I already have pictures in the bios.

What do you need you fix my problem? so i can take a picture on it.

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 2:15am
" rel="nofollow - chubalz, what are you asking? "What do you need you fix my problem? so i can take a picture on it."
Quote [URL=][/URL]
Did you enter this and why?  It serves no purpose.  Enjoy, John.


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Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 2:21am
Sorry im using celpon maybe it touches my touchscreen the img button top of the text box.

Well ur not helping me

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 9:13pm
Up. Need help

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 9:33pm
can i point out another thing

your still using a very early version of bios

this will not help your ram compatability
later version 3.0 adds massive assistance to ram
and theres version 3.1 and 3.2 after that


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 10:07pm
" rel="nofollow - ok i have just seen your signature is out of date
you say you are on bios 3.2

right
have you actually tried increasing your cpu vcore volts ?

to say maybe 1.35v
and test the system then ?

if its stable then the boot up issue is due to the cpu not getting enough juice on cold start


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 1:23am
" rel="nofollow - Sorry. I have 3.20 Bios. I only tried 1.312 volts because im affraid that 1.35v may cause a problem because im only using stock cooler. Is it safe to use 1.35v on wraith spire?

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Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v
Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by chubalz chubalz wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Sorry. I have 3.20 Bios. I only tried 1.312 volts because im affraid that 1.35v may cause a problem because im only using stock cooler. Is it safe to use 1.35v on wraith spire?


yes its a very good cooler for a freebee

remember were testing a thoery to try and find a solution here im not suggesting we set and leave it there forever anyway
but theres plenty of reviewers that run 1.35 for a r5 1600 overclock


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