Asrock ab350m pro4 ram quastion
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Topic: Asrock ab350m pro4 ram quastion
Posted By: G0dzis
Subject: Asrock ab350m pro4 ram quastion
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 3:23pm
| " rel="nofollow - So i made a build with a ryzen 5 1600 and asrock ab350m pro4 motherboard and with a 16gb corsair lpx 3000mhz rams CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 and the damm pc does not even want to boot everytime and getting it passed 2133mhz one can totaly forget it... i used a second set of corsair lpx but only with 3200mhz and those would not go above 2133mhz but booted 99% of the time. I checked the qvl of the motherboard and now going to get the gskill trident z set F4-3200C16D-16GTZB witch is listed there. What ram are you all using ? what speeds did you get? would the ram work that i am planning to buy? i am on the brinck of returning the motherboard and swapping it for an asus prime b350m-a .... |
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 8:50pm
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i use tridentz one thing to note the set you quoted dosnt seem to use the *magical* b dies (eg the samsung ic chips on the ram) the 3200 cl14 and 3200 cl15 tridentz do it does however seem strange that you cant get the corsiar ram above 2133 though, although there are not great by any means they should by now be able to get at least 2666 or 2933 from may i ask are you running the later bios on your board and also is the option in bios of 'am4 boot training' set to 'auto' ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: G0dzis
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 9:32pm
got he lastes bios for that bord witch is 3.10 i think . yes that feature is on auto even if y disable it it is the same... i found those gskill ram in the qvl of the motherboard and it is stated that they run at 2933mhz |
datonyb wrote:Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 9:44pm
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yes but the specific ram kit you quote is double sided sticks (not the best idea for ryzen) and has either samsung E dies or can possibly have hynix dies im not saying for sure it wont run at 2993 (in fact theres a good chance this ram and ryzen will run at 3200 esp. if its the samsung dies) what im saying is all ryzen systems seem to much prefer running samsung b dies AND single sided chips/sticks (eg the little memory chips on each ram stick are only mounted on one side of the stick) this basically makes it easier work for the ryzen cpu to talk to them and 'get along nicely' its the same for any cpu intel/amd two stick single sided is best four sticks of double sided would be worst anyway im more concerned that two different kits of ram (even corsair) wouldnt allow anything over 2133mhz with such a late bios version on your board ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 9:46pm
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" rel="nofollow - one thing you havnt mentioned is the cpu overclocked or running stock ? ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: G0dzis
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 9:57pm
it is stock |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 10:10pm
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" rel="nofollow - well thats not the problem either then are the ram sticks inserted into slot a2 and slot b2 ? eg the second and fourth slots AWAY from the cpu ? are they both pushed very very firmly down into the slots (these am4 ram slots require far more pressure than were used to ) look closely at the copper tabs are thjey evenly inserted into the socket or does one side stick up a bit more out of socket ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: G0dzis
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 10:27pm
everything was inserted fine. also tried the a1 b1 slot and got the same result with the 3000mhz ram. the 3200mhz would not post above 2133mhz but atleast it would always post at 2133mhz :D i will trie the gskill ram that i posted in the first post and they are in the qvl of the motherboard. if they too make problems just gonna refund the motherboard |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 10:31pm
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when you go to fit them please perform a full cmos clear before e.g. disconnect power from the wall and remove the little battery on motherboard for at least 5 mins this will remove any traces of the old rams bad performance etc from the bios be aware the first boot after this may well take 1-2 mins before it looks like it will even start this is normal ,just leave it to do its thing and boot ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: G0dzis
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 12:55am
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 2:49am
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its an old qvl and thats what they got at the time ..back in march/april with early bios things really have improved since ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: G0dzis
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 4:13am
one would think but here we are as it is... the ram is listed as supported by ryzen on amd list :D but not on the asrock qvl list... gonna try the gskill tridents |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 4:29am
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i like the tridentz f4 3200cl15d-16gtz i got the taichi board and have used NON qvl ram since day 1 at full speed , its now running 3333 cl14 and nice tight low timings the ram STILL isnt on the qvl............. good luck with the new ram mate ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 6:19am
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Most of the time, motherboard manufacturers only release a QVL at product launch. On very rare occasion the list may be updated for any given product but typically you are best served checking the RAM manufacturer's website for supported boards. Generally, if one ASRock boards of a particular chipset is listed then most of the boards that utilize that chipset will also support the RAM unless for some reason a board is behind with it's updates or has a very particular design (ITX for example). This is because it is far easier for memory manufacturers to test a handful of boards with each of their products than it is for a motherboard manufacturer to collect potentially thousands of product samples to test on every single board model. ASRock knows how it's BIOS handles RAM as well as power specifications and tolerances. With this information RAM manufacturers can tell if a RAM model works on X board then it should also work on Y, B and C for example as they share specs. This is a very common complaint here on the forums, ultimately, while it would be nice to see QVL lists updated regularly it simply isn't practical. This is even more the case with Ryzen and AGESA where compatibility can, and has been, broken from one version to the next. Neither of my RAM kits are on the X370 Taichi QVL but both work flawlessly, one at it's rated 2800 speed and the other at 3200 (3600 kit). Knowing that RAM manufacturers keep a more definitive QVL for their products can save a lot of users headaches. ------------- 
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Posted By: G0dzis
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 6:56pm
| " rel="nofollow - So i took out the battery today morning and it booted fine few times even with the 2933mhz settings but now i am getting the bsod kernel security check failure... any ideas? |
Posted By: donalgodon
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 11:06pm
What's the same memory but with the 3.32 (Micron die) and they run perfectly at 2933 MHz.
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