DeskMini X600 random crashes
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Topic: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted By: mungbean
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2024 at 10:04am
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Having some random crashes with the DeskMini X600. CPU: 8700G Memory: Crucial 5600MHZ 32GB (CT32G56C46S5.C16D) HDD: Samsung 850PRO / WD SN770 Cooler AMD Wraith stealth OS Windows 11 and windows 10 fully updated I have random crashes but usually seen when opening, closing or seeking in youtube videos. Have reinstalled a few times and tried different HDDs. disabled TPM Set power to NON 180w in BIOS. Updated BIOS to 4.03 Updated firmware on SN770 Ran memory test, Prime 95, Furmark, Crystalmark 32GB read write for 1-2 hours without a fail. Starting to think the motherboard is the issue. Dont have a spare CPU or memory to test but all passing with flying colours. Any ideas on eliminating this issue? |
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Posted By: mungbean
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 12:46am
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any help? Also filled in the Support Request Form |
Posted By: lifesaver
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2024 at 12:07am
| I fixed my deskmini crashes by turning off Precision Boost Overdrive in the BIOS, so from 'auto' to 'disabled'. |
Posted By: ODfan
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2025 at 10:10pm
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I have built a DeskMini X600 with Ryzen 5 8600G, 2X16 GB DDR5-5600 (Kingston Fury Impact), Samsung 990 EVO Plus (2TB), Noctua LH-L9a-AM5, Win11 Pro. Works nicely but about 1 BlueScreen or other strange errors per day. Tried all sorts of tests: negative. Updated UEFI to latest version. When I left only one of the 2 RAM modules (regardless of which of the two), everything was without fault. Now I switched off precision boost overdrive and use both ram modules again. Waiting for the next bluescreen... Test progs show very unstable 12 V (9..16 V). Does that mean anything? Could that be false indicating by the test progs (like OCCT and HWInfo)? UEFI doesn't show unstable values in idle. |
Posted By: ODfan
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2025 at 11:41pm
----- Did you find a solution? |
mungbean wrote:Posted By: ODfan
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 11:42pm
| Seems that disabling "Precision Boost Overdrive" (as lifesaver wrote before) helped in my case too. No more glitches or Bluescreens. Someone find out what is going on behind the curtains... |
Posted By: jpablomsan
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 4:58am
This workaround seemed to help at the beginning but the blue screens came back after a day or so. For the ones that opened a support case with ASRock, what was the workaround or solution provided? I'm getting ready to open a case too but wanted to ask here as well. |
Posted By: minons1
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 8:14pm
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I also having similar issue with my asrock deskmini x600 with ryzen 5 8600g I already update firmware to latest and bios to v4.10 Sometimes it randomly crashed when I played games, it showed dark green color and then the system reboot (but not logged in to windows), I need to press the power button to make it completely turn off Anyone has a fix for this? Haven't tried turning PBO yet, still in default (auto), how do I turn it off completely in bios? |
Posted By: sojer
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2025 at 8:41am
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Hi @minons1 @jpablomsan @mungbean @ODfan I see that the latest BIOS on the support page is 10.01. Did it solve your instability issues? I'm planning to buy an X600 and stumbled upon this thread by accident. |
Posted By: fporoli
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2025 at 12:19pm
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Hi, Just to let you know. I had exactly the same problem. From time to time, but at least once a day, during some inactivity period the system rebooted (X600M USB 4 with a 8700G processor). I had to manually power it off and on again to make it working again as it was stuck on the BIOS screen). I installed a Noctua cooler and updated the BIOS to 1.20 last version. Since then it works perfectly. |
Posted By: ODfan
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2025 at 7:21pm
| PBO can be hard to find! You have to enable Advanced AMD Overclocking from "Decline" to "Accept". (In my case I even had to first decline, then accept!) After that you see the submenue on the left side with "Precision Boost Overdrive". In my case this was vital to get a stable system. |
Posted By: Mr.Magnetix
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2026 at 6:59am
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Hi all, in the thread. I was thinking about the latest cpu for the system: device: asrock jupiter X600 mini Have you guys also tried any Ryzen 9 65Watt CPU's I'll spotted the 9945 65Watt cpu. Will this CPU work on this system? if not any recommendations for best cpu to match? I Bought this system from a friend and he was using the 8700G cpu. and I was wondering is the CPU supported list on the site up2date? any tests with other type of cpu's like the 9945 that I mentioned or any x3d cpu tested with good results? and that is resolving the sudden crashes? thanks. |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2026 at 2:10pm
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Hi Mr.Magnetix. The Jupiter x600 is a small form factor system with very limited cooling capacity owing to it's size. With systems like this the question isn't really "will it work?" it's more a case of "what will work best?". Looking at the CPU support list for your x600 it's quite clear ASRock only lists CPUs that will operate within acceptable thermal envelopes. Even though the 9600x/9700x models are listed, indicating that the system's supported CPU list was updated along with the release of the 9000 series, there are no 9000 series Ryzen 9 CPUs listed. This tells me that thermals are a major concern in such a small enclosure, not to mention the board design which will undoubtedly be focused on compactness at the cost of TDP (Thermal Design Power). The Jupiter 600x Mini is an impressive SFF system (small form factor) and one of the best out there in terms of versatility vs size but that small size will always come at a cost. With that hopefully clear, why do you want to upgrade the CPU? From everything I know about that setup the 8700g is probably the absolute king when it comes to performance in an x600 mini setup, if gaming is important to you. While there are certainly more powerful 65w CPUs out there, none of them come close to the iGPU performance of the 8700g. Without the ability to use a dedicated GPU that is a huge deal. The Ryzen 9 Pro 9945 you mentioned for example has more cores higher clocks and much more processing grunt, however, it's iGPU has only 2 GPU cores vs the 12 featured on the 8700g and worse still those 2 GPU cores operate at just half the speed (400mhz vs 800mhz) of those found in the 8700g. In gaming we are talking playable FPS with the 8700g vs slideshow with the 9945 (all non 8000 CPUs will be poor in this regard).
I take this to mean you are experiencing crashing on your current setup? If so, the likely cause is thermal spikes. The 8700g is probably the very best CPU you can use in that system but it is pushing the limits of the cooling capacity of your setup. Opening the system up and cleaning out any dust as well as removing, cleaning and applying fresh thermal compound on your CPU cooler may help resolve your issue. If that isn't enough you may want to look at setting the CPU to a 45w limit in your BIOS to test if that resolves crashing. If it does you can then look at some underclocking/volting guides and work on finding the perfect balance of heat vs performance in your specific case. If my guess is correct you are likely experiencing crashes when performing tasks like more demanding games (utilizing both CPU and iGPU extensively). Given both the CPU and iGPU are contained in the same package and share a cooling solution this results in much higher thermals than you would normally see on the system. If I have misunderstood your situation please feel free to correct me and I will see if I can offer any better suited advice. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mr.Magnetix
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2026 at 4:25am
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Hi Xaltar, thanks you for your quick response. ASRock > Jupiter X600 https://share.google/YmBJmcs1TwM7X5fKt" rel="nofollow - https://share.google/YmBJmcs1TwM7X5fKt it is the 1ltr box. not the deskmini. I'm looking for best processor since I bought the system from a friend without cpu,ram,storage. I was not aware about the 8 core GPU of the 8700G. is it still the best cpu for this system?. there are so many flavors to choose from. is it also possible to clock the 9850X3D on TDP 65Watt. since I'll need to buy a new cpu which one for this system would any of you recommend? Thanks. |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2026 at 3:04pm
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I would strongly advise against higher end CPUs on the x600 board (it's the same in the Jupiter and the Mini). These boards were designed with APUs in mind (8000 series "G"/"GE" models). The idea is to provide a solid all around performer in a small package. The x600 boards used in these small form factor barebones systems are not designed with enough power delivery and VRM cooling for higher end CPUs, you run the risk of overheating even at 65w power draw. These were never designed to be a replacement for a full sized desktop. SFF systems are very niche, typically used for TV boxes, small NAS servers and for portability when a laptop isn't ideal. From all I have seen over the years ASRock makes some of the best SFF boards and chassis out there but the form factor itself is always a compromise. Personally, I would go with an 8600g, maybe an 8700g in the 1l chassis you have. That is not to say that higher TDP CPUs won't work, they will just be a waste of money. A higher TDP CPU will throttle down it's frequency and voltage the moment it gets hot, the motherboard will likewise throttle the CPU the moment it's power delivery circuitry gets too hot (VRM section). Even if you were to put a 9850X3D in there and tune it, it would throttle down in performance almost instantly and end up performing worse than an 8700g in raw CPU performance regardless of the extra cores and potential there. I have seen reviews on other SFF models (older x300 models) that show this exact trend. The same will be true here, there is no way to avoid it with such a small motherboard. They just are not designed to handle the power requirements of a higher end CPU. The 8000 series APUs are actually very capable and perform surprisingly well. Again, for peace of mind I would personally go with an 8600g. It runs cooler and will not likely be throttled much, if at all by the system. The 8700g will be a little faster but it's at the upper limit of the board's abilities and potentially could run into thermal issues that require you to run it at 45w which would make it run about on par with the 8600g anyway. -------------
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2026 at 3:30pm
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For some clarification, tuning will only get you so far. By the time you underclock and undervolt say a 9850X3D it will perform worse than a stock 8700g, possibly worse than the 8600g I recommend. There are only a small handful of CPU coolers that will even fit in that tiny case, not a single one of them will handle a high end CPU adequately. Even high end, expensive small form factor CPU coolers can't work miracles. This is why laptops use completely different CPU architecture and very low wattage compared to desktop CPUs. Space is everything when it comes to cooling. -------------
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Posted By: Mr.Magnetix
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2026 at 5:26am
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Hi Xaltar, the explanation about whatif's are answered all my brain cycles ?? I'll stick with the 8700G for the x600 system. the reason that I was thinking about putting a processor with a higher TDP and clock it at TDP 65Watt by getting more performance from the system and lower TDP for the highend CPU's set would also lower the temperature. but reading your outstanding replies this will give slower performance then the 8700G. thanks again. |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2026 at 5:49am
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Happy to help, let me know how the build goes and feel free to ask questions here any time  Good luck with the build  -------------
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Posted By: QMarc
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2026 at 7:19pm
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FWIW, I have a 8700G in a DeskMini X600. I bought it because of the better GPU compared to the 8600G, but I think it cannot run unthrottled with the small form factor which limits the cooler and fan size. I think the 8600G is the best fit for the thermal capabilities of the DeskMini. But I can live with the throttling, much more annoying is the noise generated by the fan. The DeskMini X600 with Noctua NH-L9a-AM5 fan is OK-ish, but if Asrock would sell the "same" board in larger case which allowed to install a full-size "silent" cooler+fan I would buy it immediately. The DeskMeet is not an option for me because it uses ATX power supply and hence has increased idle power consumption. Always-on operation combined with silent power on demand is the key. I think there are many people trying to do case and cooler-system modding on their mini-PCs to solve these issues. In the dozens of variations on the mini-PC theme you can find on the net there is not one which does what people like me want. |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2026 at 8:00pm
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Getting a perfect out of the box SFF setup is almost impossible. I see no reason you couldn't take the board out of your system and install it in a larger enclosure. There are a lot of project boxes available these days, might be worth looking at. Best of both worlds. You are not limited to PC cases either, any plastic or even metal casing large enough to accommodate the board can be modified to work. I have been contemplating getting a DeskMini board and installing it in an old console enclosure. By the way, this is the board, it can be purchased without an enclosure: https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X600M-STX%20R2.0/index.asp" rel="nofollow - https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X600M-STX%20R2.0/index.asp -------------
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Posted By: QMarc
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2026 at 4:31pm
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Actually the X600M-STX page says "This model may not be sold worldwide". And so it is, none of the destributors in my region sell it. Doesn't matter much, one could buy a DeskMini and throw away the case. But another problem is all Mini-STX enclosures available seem to have the same "max fan height 40mm" restriction. I also haven't found confirmation that a full-size CPU fan has enough space on the motherboard around the CPU. The X600M-STX doesn't have any fan compatibility notes, the DeskMini only lists two low-profile fans. A serious Maker certainly can do everything, but there is no option for the normal user whose tool chest only contains a few screwdrivers. For me it's too many hurdles to try, but I hope some Asrock product manager takes note of the wishes of the customers ;-) |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2026 at 4:57pm
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That would certainly be nice. It may be worth checking out 3d printing/board fab sites like PCBWay etc. Quite often there will be ready to go models available for print for not a lot of money. My brief research into it showed it being cheaper than many retail cases. I would have needed to make my own 3d model for the project I had in mind however. The bonus with that is you can pick and choose materials, including stamped steel/aluminum with some providers and when cost is the issue plastic is pretty cheap. I get where you are coming from though, not everyone has the time and patience to make something themselves rather than simply buy a retail product that does the job. I have always been a builder/maker, mostly out of necessity because of availability and cost issues when I was starting out. It's funny how making stuff has gone from that thing you did because you were broke to being the thing people do when they have money to burn  -------------
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