Correct settings for Z790 and Intel microcode£
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Topic: Correct settings for Z790 and Intel microcode£
Posted By: Lufty
Subject: Correct settings for Z790 and Intel microcode£
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 12:33pm
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I have had open tickets with ASROCK and Intel, and still can't get a straight answer on what ASROCK MB power setting to be compliant with the latest August Intel Microcode patch. Does anyone have a link to ASROCK or Intel that shows the watts that keep the 13th gen i5 in compliance? The following power profiles ALL have 181w for both CPU power states. Why? What is correct for this board? BIOS Defaults 125W/181W Performance 181W/200W Intel baseline 125W/181W System: CPU: Intel Core i5 13600K 13th Gen. Raptor Lake MAINBOARD: ASRock Z790 PG Riptide BIOS 16.01 |
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Posted By: Daguun
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 1:13pm
| The Bios Default is the Intel Performance Profile. |
Posted By: Lufty
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 5:56am
| ASROCK has not been able to answer this. Thanks for your info, but unless I can can find a direct link or info from ASROCk directly, I can not be certain. |
Posted By: Darkje
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 6:13pm
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General ------- CEP=enabled TVB=eabled TVB voltage optimizations=enabled ICCMAX Unlimited=disabled TjMax Ofset=0 for your i5 ----------- PL1=181 Watt PL2=181 Watt ICCMAX=200 Amp so this matches the default bios profile. [img= https://i.imgur.com/6U9k4rg.png%5d" rel="nofollow - https://i.imgur.com/6U9k4rg.png] [/img] ------------- https://valid.x86.fr/pxh0an" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Darkje
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 6:17pm
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Posted By: Murdymisiek
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2024 at 10:54pm
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Hello guys, i need help with limits on my i5 14gen running on z790 pro rs. Hwinfo showing max vr voltage iccmax pl4 limits. Anyone know how to get rid of the limits? |
Posted By: Darkje
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 2:15am
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I think this is supposed to happen on the default profile, pl4 on IA and Ring. I'm guessing it just means TVB kicked in because you're over 70 DegC. I've heard rising iccmax to 240A could help, but seems the wrong way to go about it. Haven't checked this myself (yet) as a found the performance loss was minimal in for ex. cb23. There I noticed about 1k loss in multi score. In games I didn't notice it at all. Right now i'm on defaults just to see how that's working out, but at some stage I'll start tweaking the settings again, if anything useful comes out I'll post back. On performance profile it does not happen, but you will go slightly out of intel spec. As long as you're not pushing over 1.5V VCore or extreme multipliers I would not worry too much with an i5, but if you want to stay in spec, I guess you have to get used to it. ------------- https://valid.x86.fr/pxh0an" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Chirayata
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 6:51pm
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Can anybody confirm which power profile is Intel recommended? I have a B760m Steel Legend board with a 13600k. I have two options: BIOS default and Baseline Which one should I use? |
Posted By: Darkje
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 7:05pm
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Chirayata wrote:Posted By: Chirayata
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 8:06pm
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Ok thanks. I was using baseline all this time but with custom power settings to reduce power draw, voltage and temps. Hopefully I haven't degraded my cpu this way. I was using it because 2 months back people were recommending that to me when I asked in a reddit thread. Does the baseline degrade the cpu or is it just too performance conservative too use? Does the Intel microcode fix apply in baseline as well? |
Posted By: Darkje
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 11:05pm
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baseline is more conservative, so i don't think you damaged anything by using that. you can see in the image I posted a few posts up. With default profile it will probably run a bit hotter than the baseline profile does, so tweaking the voltage for an undervolt is probably needed, esp since you had to on baseline. the microcode will be loaded no matter what, but I think you can 'override' it with your settings. With i5, vCore should be nowhere near the critical level, and the multiplier is also 53 or lower, so a lot less worries than i9. ------------- https://valid.x86.fr/pxh0an" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Chirayata
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2024 at 1:41pm
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Ya by override I think you mean the option to switch to x104 microcode. Also my i5 mostly hovers around 1.32v avg VID with peak at 1.42v, and around 1.28v avg Vcore with peak at 1.37v while playing games. My custom settings are: CPU Vcore Compensation Level 1 PL1 and PL2 125w Iccmax 200A ACLL 0.75, DCLL 1.10 LLC Level 5 |
Posted By: Chirayata
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2024 at 1:42pm
Ya by override I think you mean the option to switch to x104 microcode. Also my i5 mostly hovers around 1.32v avg VID with peak at 1.42v, and around 1.28v avg Vcore with peak at 1.37v while playing games. My custom settings are: CPU Vcore Compensation Level 1 PL1 and PL2 125w Iccmax 200A ACLL 0.75, DCLL 1.10 LLC Level 5 |
Posted By: Lufty
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2024 at 11:16pm
THis is not what is getting set when the DEFAULT profile is loaded. Selecting the DEFAULT results in: PL1=125 Watt PL2=181 Watt ICCMAX=200 Amp So what's the deal? How do we ensure we are at the correct microcode settings? |
Posted By: Chirayata
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2024 at 1:55am
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From what I know the microcode settings that have been modified to prevent cpu degradation are stuff that we don't have control of like the hard 1.55v limit or the tvb table. You don't even get to see the table anymore in the latest asrock bios, at least I can't in my B760m steel legend. The other power settings that are getting applied by default, even though they do not match Intel specs, they are actually lower than what Intel recommends. So this should not degrade your cpu in any way. Although I will suggest to lower the ACLL to undervolt the cpu a bit. |
Posted By: Darkje
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2024 at 5:23am
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for me with 13600kf the only thing i touched was load xmp profile and onboard leds=off  after reboot i check and it is set to: pl1=181W pl2=181W cpu core current limit=200A  ------------- https://valid.x86.fr/pxh0an" rel="nofollow">
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