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Topic: <Running a headless Server (Ryzen) possible?
Posted By: hansi12
Subject: <Running a headless Server (Ryzen) possible?
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 6:07am
" rel="nofollow - Is any Asrock Mainboard (for Rzen) able to POST without a GPU? I want to run a NAS but dont want the GPU's Power draw (and cost) when i never need a monitor, except during setup.

Thanks



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Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 6:17am
yes and no :)
they are able to post without gpu, but integrated gpu has been moved to cpu (like on intel platforms)
but unfortunately ryzen doesnt have any gpu, so u need a-serie cpu(bristole ridge)
so at this moment those boards need dedicated gpu with ryzen


Posted By: hansi12
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 6:30am
" rel="nofollow - If you say they are able to POST in your first sentence, why do you say they still need a gpu in your last sentence?


Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 6:47am
my english is just bad :)


Posted By: ssateneth
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 8:02am
The system still needs a display adapter of some sort, be it an expansion card, or integrated into the CPU (Current Ryzen chips do not have one). You don't need a monitor but you still need some sort of graphics processor.

If you have an A6-9500 or A8-9600 CPU, which have an iGPU, then you can run without a graphics card, otherwise you will need to purchase a GPU (anything will work, as long as it's a GPU)


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Posted By: zlobster
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by ssateneth ssateneth wrote:

The system still needs a display adapter of some sort, be it an expansion card, or integrated into the CPU (Current Ryzen chips do not have one). You don't need a monitor but you still need some sort of graphics processor.

If you have an A6-9500 or A8-9600 CPU, which have an iGPU, then you can run without a graphics card, otherwise you will need to purchase a GPU (anything will work, as long as it's a GPU)


He is right, mobo will not POST w/o some sort of GPU. Monitor is optional.

Hell, you can always plop some 1050 or some absolutely entry level GPU and it won't even touch the PSU juice.


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Posted By: hansi12
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 3:15am
hmm okay then. Makes Intel attractive again :P

Although ive read someone can run without gpu, he had a certain asus atx board and flipped a BIOS setting.


Posted By: zlobster
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 3:21am
Originally posted by hansi12 hansi12 wrote:

hmm okay then. Makes Intel attractive again :P



Maybe you've been living under a rock the last few days? LOL Cough, Spectre, cough, Meltdown, cough, ME...

I ain't touching Intel with a 6-foot stick!


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Posted By: php42
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 3:30am
Originally posted by zlobster zlobster wrote:


Maybe you've been living under a rock the last few days? LOL Cough, Spectre, cough, Meltdown, cough, ME...

to be fair, AMD is also vulnerable to meltdown, it's an abuse of speculative execution which is present in most modern processors
AMD also has their own variant of ME

still i would agree that AMD is the safer bet :P

EDIT: i should mention that AMD is indeed less vulnerable to meltdown, and so is the safe bet for security reasons


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Posted By: zlobster
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 3:59am
Originally posted by php42 php42 wrote:

to be fair, AMD is also vulnerable to meltdown, it's an abuse of speculative execution which is present in most modern processors


Sadly, yes. That's why KPTI has to be implemented as well. AMD have been kicking in performance & price/performance as well. Only their discrete graphics are a bit behind now. Can't have it all, I guess? Disapprove

We hijacked this thread good, no? LOL Sorry, OP!


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Posted By: SoniC
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 7:44am
Originally posted by zlobster zlobster wrote:

Originally posted by php42 php42 wrote:

to be fair, AMD is also vulnerable to meltdown, it's an abuse of speculative execution which is present in most modern processors


Sadly, yes. That's why KPTI has to be implemented as well. AMD have been kicking in performance & price/performance as well. Only their discrete graphics are a bit behind now. Can't have it all, I guess? Disapprove

We hijacked this thread good, no? LOL Sorry, OP!

No, AMD CPUs don't need the KPTI fix, see evidence in the kernel commit here:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/12/27/2

AMDs need only a fix for Variant 1 -- without big performance hit. 
The real performance hit comes from Variant 3 and AMD is not affected.


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Posted By: nallar
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2018 at 1:21am
At least some of ASRock's AM4 motherboards do work headless.

There's a discussion here on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7ur5ni/dear_am4_users_can_you_boot_without_a_gpu_and_if/" rel="nofollow - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7ur5ni/dear_am4_users_can_you_boot_without_a_gpu_and_if/



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