Looking for pointers on Overclocking my 1800x
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Topic: Looking for pointers on Overclocking my 1800x
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Subject: Looking for pointers on Overclocking my 1800x
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 1:34pm
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Hey everyone, Just finished putting together my new build which is as follows:
Anyways, I have not overclocked in years. First overclock I did was on a Core2Duo like a decade ago, boy have things changed. That said, I'd love to hear some pointers on what steps I should take to boost my chip, I've got a lot of headroom to grow with this machine, just need to know where to start really. I went through the menu and didn't find any core multiplier which is what I remember using to OC my C2D. Any help would be greatly appreciated! ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
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Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 5:23pm
http://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master" rel="nofollow - AMD Ryzen??Master Utility for Overclocking Control | AMDeasy way |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 5:57pm
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" rel="nofollow - Hey Kerberos, have you used this software? I mean, it's coming from AMD so I trust it... just wondering if it has a good track record. amazing you can do this stuff from windows now. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: zlobster
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 7:46pm
Hey Erasmus_Tycho, Great build you got there! Maybe your radiator will be a bit struggling with high clocks, but it should do the job. Any good and stable clock starts with lots and lots of reading. Even with the unlocked Ryzen multipliers it's not a trivial task to maintain stable 4GHz. A good start is https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/" rel="nofollow - https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/ and the various YT videos. Ryzen master is rather buggy for my liking. ------------- 1700X ZP-B1 (stock); X370 Taichi (UEFI 3.10); 16GB F4-3200C14-8GFX XMP; 256GB 960 EVO; RX 580 NITRO+ 8GB |
Erasmus_Tycho wrote:Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 2:39am
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Hey zlobster, Thanks! Yes I'm intending to take it slow. Currently when I run Prime95 at 3.7GHz my temps top out at 53 C (custom fan profile for the radiator has them only at 50% speed sub 55c). Heat is a major factor for how far I'll go with my OC as I live in Arizona, and our summers are brutal. While I have a case that helps make up for that, it doesn't completely resolve the problem simply because the ambient temp is just high on a hot summer day. Thanks for the link, I'm the type of guy that likes to know what I'm turning off/on, not just a "do this because it will help make it more stable." answer. The goal is an OC that can run at or below 65c at full load on prime95, so something modest. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: zlobster
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 3:18am
Finally a sane clocker!  Thank you!I like how you take it humbly, step-by-step, while considering all factors, incl. your lack of knowledge. That's the proper way to do it. I hate guys who just crank all the dials up and then start whining 'Whaaa, I can't hit 1000GHz!!!!1!' You on the other hand, know what do you want and why do you want it. I think you're aiming for something reasonable and you won't have much trouble reaching your goal. On the topic - I'm an oldfart OC-er but Ryzen is a totally different beast. I mean everyone can set the multiplier but that's far from real OC, let alone optimal one. I also see you have a balanced setup, so OC-ing the CPU should definitely do you good. Taichi itself is a very solid ground for a stable OC. Off-topic: do you use an A/C in your house/flat/trailer/whatever? If you keep the room temps at check only the sky is the limit. Other thoughts: lowering RAM latency and/or boosting its freq. should also yield benefits for the whole system. Also, do keep an eye on the VRM & SSD temps, they need love (and cooling) too! ------------- 1700X ZP-B1 (stock); X370 Taichi (UEFI 3.10); 16GB F4-3200C14-8GFX XMP; 256GB 960 EVO; RX 580 NITRO+ 8GB |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 3:41am
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In Phoenix, without a true A/C system, you cannot survive. Unfortunately, cooling is a premium during the summers here and every degree adds to the monthly electricity bill. Lowest I can go is 76° on a summer night, daytime generally ramps up to 78° with the AC running ALL DAY if the house is occupied just to keep up and ceiling fans on full speed in every room. Thanks for the tips friend! ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: zlobster
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 4:29am
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Hmm, 78F is not that high IMO. Due to the layout of my flat I need 2 separate A/C units on the opposite sides of the building if I want to chill the whole place enough. Since electricity is expensive here are well I often run with just 1 A/C, which in turn carries me into the mid 80s (God, I hate your measurement system  ).You should be fine with a decent airflow in and around your case. As firmware matures we're to see even higher clocks and low temps. Ryzen 2 is also on the horizon, so if you really need cooler and faster chip, you can snatch one later. ZP-B1 is made on Samsung's 14nm LPP which is not the optimal process for high frequencies. Please keep us posted on your progress. It's always nice to hear a success story! ------------- 1700X ZP-B1 (stock); X370 Taichi (UEFI 3.10); 16GB F4-3200C14-8GFX XMP; 256GB 960 EVO; RX 580 NITRO+ 8GB |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 9:41pm
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cpu wise id suggest 3.9 ghz all cores on ryzen dont be messing with that nice bckclk setting we have (it will mess up the pcie bus when getting to 104ish mhz) leave it at auto/100mhz when running 3.9ghz you should be able to have it nice and stable at circa 1.325 volts (a good starting point) dispite the early yt vids and reviews 4ghz isnt as easy as what they would like you to think, it takes a lot more voltage and is a lot less succesful 100% stable,pay attention to the cpu LLC this does help set to level 2 (second tightest) bryan from yestechcity on YT done an early taichi overclocking video with earlier bios (its very similar to later versions with what to change and where to find the settings) now as for ram ,youve not made a bad choice ,but tweaking it anymore to say 3333mhz or 3466mhz may be a long and tiring day.although there should be some more milage in it lowering some of the sub timings when you get to 3200mhz and faster usually helps a bit more in gaming etc than outright ram speed (particulary if you end up lossening timings to cl16 to get ram faster, as this is counter productive) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2018 at 2:37am
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" rel="nofollow - Hey datonyb, it's funny you bring up that video, I have infact watched it and got some explanation of what "CPU droop" is and how to counter it at higher clocks using the level 2 LLC. It would be great if I could get it to 3.9 at under 1.35v. I've also read messing with the bclck (base clock before going through the multiplier) will effect the whole machine, which is bad when getting above 104, even could cause data loss for M.2 drives... Which I have and done want. As for my ram, the gains above 3200 @14cas seem to be minimal in real world benchmarks. It's one of the reasons I spent more money on the RAM, to get the highest speeds I could without spending days trying to get speeds that weren't guaranteed. And as you've pointed out, a high speed with a higher cas, isn't always better. What's your take on that Yestechcity video on disabling some of the core features? I've actually got my CPU at 3.8ghz right now without changing those features... Still testing how low I can go with voltage at that clock, but below 1.35v and temps are manageable without the fans Turning into a jet engine. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 1:30pm
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Hey Datonyb, I seem to be running into a problem here. So here's my dilemma: I can use the AMD Ryzen Master to get to 3.9GHz @1.325v. It's stable, temps run great under Prime95 torture test. However, when I go into BIOS and try to set these values manually, while disabling C6 mode, global C-state, CPU Voltage (the field located in BIOS under CPU Clock) to 1.325v and then under the motherboard section I set CPU Vcore to 1.325 as well. What I'm running into is it downclocks when booting into windows. Everything runs at 2200MHz, even under a full load on prime95. I suspect I'm getting CPU Voltage and Vcore wrong. I've been trying to figure out which is which (CPU Voltage versus CPU Vcore) and I suspect that I'm setting one of these wrong, under power which is causing it to downclock. Even in Tech Yes City - the BIOS version he had did not have a CPU Voltage, just a Vcore setting... so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Even when I leave that value alone (CPU Voltage at 1.35) and change the vcore voltage to 1.325 it still downclocks. (Yes, I also set the TTL to level 2.) Any guidance from those more familiar would be greatly appreciated! ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 7:21pm
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check your windows power plan, set it to high performance |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 11:00pm
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Yeah, the PC is on high performance already. I set that before I started overclocking. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 2:39am
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you have a cpu with the multi bug its not the end of the world either update bios to version 3.2a available from jzelectronics wepage (a german asrock board partner) or follow the workaround video i will add to this thread after i have eaten my dinner (when i hunt the link down) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 3:10am
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Some searches online are showing me that I should leave the Mobo vcore voltage to auto and instead only change the cpu voltage under the CPU Clock, potentially also disabling performance boost... I'll mess around with it. Makes me feel better that this is not me being incompetent and just a growing pains bug. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 3:17am
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" rel="nofollow - here you go this is chew (brian mccohclan) showing you how to use a workaround for any cpu affected with the multibug and as a bonus its also filmed on the taichi, bios (v3.0 i think) chew has been extremely helpful to taichi users and does in fact assist asrock with bios work i believe its chews assistance that made the beta bios v3.20a with the fix for the cpu multibug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8deNlA1Aznc&feature=youtu.be ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 3:18am
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Thanks, found that video and am looking at it. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 4:27am
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Sweet, I've got it working with the guide you posted. I didn't follow his guide exact, I change a few things, but I'm running at 3.9ghz @ 1.325v. So far temps look stable, will have to run a prolonged torture test in Prime95 over night to really test it out. Settings are as follows: CPU Clock at 3900 MHz CPU Voltage at 1.325 v. C6 mode disabled CPU Performance Boost Enabled Global C-State disabled XMP @3200 (14cas) loaded CPU and VDD load line levels set to 3 on each Everything else left untouched. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 4:36am
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After restarting, it failed to post. Will have to keep tinkering with it. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 5:11am
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am4 advanced boot training = auto/on its a longer boot time to bios BUT ADDS SO MUCH TO STABILITY ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 5:27am
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So THATS why it takes longer to boot into bios than into windows. I have not changed that setting... and still the system is very unstable after that first boot. I'll keep toying with it, it ran fine, then I loaded into bios just to check settings and exited without saving, and it wouldn't successfully post after that. If anything, I'll switch to modifying the P0 State later tonight when I've got time to do so. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 6:52am
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you may well need to pump the cpu volts a tad eg 1.35-1.375 mine is at 1.325 but remember mine is a 1700 non x so is a tdp of 65w normally (i have my own theory at least with the early cpu's of which mine is very early that the 1700 non X was or may have been sorted/binned for ability to run lower power, something which a lot of reviewers seemed to think as well ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 6:59am
The only thing that makes me question that logic (believe me, that's where my mind went first) is I've had the CPU at 3.9GHZ @1.325v via the Ryzen Master application. In fact it's sat at 3.9GHz with hours of Prime95 with zero errors and hours of games with zero crashes at that voltage. What's your opinion on changing the P0 State versus the OC menu. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 8:44am
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p0 state and oc menu shuldnt be any different compare voltages/frequencies with hwinfo64 to see if there is anything amiss |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 12:45pm
Yeah, when I edit pstate 0 I can't even get it to post. Tried at 3800MHz @ 1.325v FID: 98 DID: 8 (unchanged) VID: 24 It's just so strange because when I use Ryzen Master to OC to 3900MHz @ 1.325v it's rock solid... I just want to build the profile in bios so I don't have to change it in windows.
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Posted By: ssateneth
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 2:09pm
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" rel="nofollow - I just want to put it out there, that people trying to remove vdroop dont understand the point of it. vdroop is put into into the motherboard and cpu -on purpose-, to minimize the impact of large transients. what are transients? With a normal setup with normal vdroop, and you set your voltage to 1.4, you may get 1.35v under load. Then when your load goes away, it goes back up to 1.39 (droop never goes away fully). what you don't see are transients, which are momentary spikes of voltage that can only be seen on an oscilliscope. With vdroop, these spikes are minimized or removed, since it'll spike down to 1.35v then stay there, then when the load goes away, it may spike up to 1.4 then settle to 1.39 Now if you remove vdroop with llc and you want 1.35v under load (and think setting a lower voltagemeans less heat), you set to 1.35v in bios. Now when you set a load though, you're starting from 1.35. it then spikes down to 1.30 for an instant (again, not detectable in software, only in oscilliscope). Now suddenly your PC crashes because your voltage was too low, so you crank up the voltage to 1.4 to make it stable again. Now you aren't crashing since it droops to 1.35v but stabilizes to 1.4v. Now your load disappears, but now guess what happens? You get a voltage spike to 1.45v, and you might not be comfortable with that amount. So really, just embrace the droop. Set your voltage to a comfortable level and don't try to game it with LLC. Vdroop is there for a reason. ------------- MB: X399 Taichi, UEFI L3.32 VGA: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 PSU: Seasonic PRIME 1300 W PLATINUM CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X MEM: 4x16GB, 3600MHz G.Skill Trident Z F4-3600C17Q-64GTZKW |
Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 4:14pm
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well under load i dont see any visible voltage drops, if any they arent noticeable....only ddr voltage ramps up from 1.360 to 1.368 as for mine voltages: vcore 0.4-1.45v (cpu package) cpu vid - 1.375 (cpu die) on 4ghz in prime95 max 165watts (140 Cpu+15 SoC) on 3.6ghz in prime (100 cpu + 15 Soc) (1.25v cpu vid) ryzen5 1600x |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 9:57pm
yep and your right it will be happy at 1.325 in windows,it seems your issue isnt in windows its on bios start up when voltages are initilised and everything is trying to settle down and electronics warm up this is why we have more issues with a cold boot than with a restart when overclocking ryzens ive sat there and got stable tested settings in windows and restarted many times to come back the next day press the power button and be greeted with the dreaded bleep bleep bleep also to note overclocking the ram can well involve some more cpu volts i used to run 3.9ghz at 1.306 volts....but it wont have it with the ram overclocked to 3333mhz hence why im on 1,325 now ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 10:05pm
well written  but also to add not all vdroops are created equal  from my experiance the 370 taichi is a very tight controlling vrm and llc arrangement, as i assume your x399 may well be due to the quaility of the vrm section parts, the msi tomahawks (three of) i assisteed on tweaking have a greater swing of voltages either side of desired settings, and to be honest thier llc settings seem to make little difference even at min/max this seems to be a bit of an issue with the much praised crosshair 6 as well (owners complaining of quite large swings above desired voltages) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2018 at 12:30am
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This is interesting. Ok, I'll try increasing CPU Voltage to see if it gives me a more reliable boot! Thanks! ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2018 at 11:34pm
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Just following up, Datonyb you were right. Increasing the CPU voltage has made it boot reliably at 3.9ghz! ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 2:17am
no problem mate glad to hear you have made progress alas between youtubers getting nice cherry picked cpu's and the more common bragging posts stating how well we can overclock or how low our volts are its little wonder the average speed and volts on internet searches isnt the real average the cpus can do not many posts are made saying ive got a crap cpu and it needs 1.4 volts for 3.8 etc etc ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 2:23am
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Well, it's certainly not that bad... and I'm still conflicted that I need more voltage at boot versus setting the clock in windows via software. I can definitely see an increase in heat on a prolonged CPU load (Prime95 torture test). I went from 1.325v to 1.35... so probably more than I actually need since I was able to get it to boot at 1.325, it just had trouble during the following cold boot cycles. I pumped it to 1.35 in an attempt to see if the increased voltage would make it more stable at boot, and it did. Now I need to set some time aside to start lowering the voltage until I find that sweet spot. That said, I think 4ghz will produce too much heat when under a full load, which lets face it... will be infrequent but nonetheless, I'd rather be safe than sorry and I'm more interested in finding a middle ground on performance and longevity of CPU life. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 2:49am
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to be fair my view would be 3.9ghz at 1.35v nice forget it and move on  it is not outragous in any way and well in the rhelms of normal ive had to push 6 cores higher on cheaper motherboards.......... ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 4:14am
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Just when I thought I was in the clear... So the same thing happened at 3900MHz @1.35 as did with 3900MHz @ 1.325. It will cold boot if I completely shut down, but if I restart the machine, it hangs. Appears to give me a 78 (chipset initialization error) code. So, if I restart I get the error, but if I completely shut down and "cold boot" it starts up normal, that is, till the restart, then it requires a complete bios reset to get back in. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 4:50am
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I'm going to try running it at 3900MHz @1.35v with default ram settings (no XMP file) to see if that solves the problem... if it does well then I know it's related to the RAM settings and potentially needing more voltage. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: chainsaw
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 5:22am
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i have seen reports of CPU overclocks not being stable with ram at higher speeds. sometimes you can add some SOC voltage to help from what i read. more SOC voltage did not help me. my R7 1700 needs 1.36v @ 3.9ghz to pass 24 hours of prime95 though doing 24hours of prime95 was fine it could not do 1 hour of handbrake encoding. for everyday truly stable oc i run 3750mhz 1.275v ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 P3.40 AMD RYZEN 7 1700 @ 4Ghz 1.39v Noctua NH-D15 "blocks top 1x pci-e" 16GB GSkill Ripjaw V F4-3200C16D-16GVRB @ 2933 14-15-15-15 T1 1.365v GTX 1080 x2 Sli |
Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 5:44am
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that could be vrm or power supply issue, or motherboard limits my ryzen 5 1600x can hit 165watts in stress tests like nothing mobo is rated for 95watts :P |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 5:59am
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Considering the PSU that I have, that seems highly unlikely as at most I'm using 75% of what this thing is rated at. With all the praise this board gets, I also think that (hopefully) isn't true about reaching it's limit. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 11:50am
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Just wanted to update, I have a stable overclock at 3.8ghz @1.325v currently. Seems I'll need to update to BIOS version 3.20a before I can overcome this CPU multiplier bug.. Anything above 3.8GHz becomes unstable with a restart... despite pushing my CPU Voltage. It's really impressive I can get this CPU to run at 3.8 at 1.325v... not bad at all. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2018 at 7:52am
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" rel="nofollow - Hey Datonyb, I found the BIOS beta version 3.2a, only problem is I'm not really experienced with installing new versions of BIOS. I noticed this is a .exe. Am I going to need to flash this with a Bootable DOS USB stick? Have you tried any of the new BIOS versions? (3.4/4.4) ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2018 at 1:14pm
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Updated BIOS to version 4.4 and am happy to report that I'm getting more stable overclocks! Definitely see that I need to increase voltages on vcore a tad more to get it to post on boot. Also, I've noticed this... Windows isn't seeing the new CPU frequency. I've done testing and can show that the CPU is indeed overclocked to 3.8Ghz as the Cinabench results are right where they should be for a 3.8GHz OC. Here's a picture of what I'm talking about: https://imgur.com/XDbXbNY" rel="nofollow - https://imgur.com/XDbXbNY ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: Prodif
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2018 at 11:44pm
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Erasmus_Tycho https://i.imgur.com/p7kn8e8.jpg%3c" rel="nofollow - https://i.imgur.com/p7kn8e8.jpg ; Win 7 x64 https://i.imgur.com/ONHmtbM.jpg ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi (bios v2.36) / Ryzen-1800X / Crucial CT16G4DFD824A x2 / GPU: AMD R9 NANO / SSD NVMe Samsung 960 PRO MZ-V6P1T0BW (M.2) / HDD SATA 3TB x6 / PSU: Corsair AX860i ps. RedDragon, by AG |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2018 at 1:51am
Not sure how this is supposed to help me, but ok. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2018 at 3:04am
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there was some reports of this happening on the asus forum it seems the windows reports are incorrect,must be some glitch between windows and the later updated bios (the 1007 agesa) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Erasmus_Tycho
Date Posted: 22 May 2018 at 12:29pm
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" rel="nofollow - Just wanted to post an update... I've completely redone this machine, most of the hardware is the same except the graphics card and the installation of a full custom loop with two radiators. I've pushed my overclock to 4.0ghz at 1.413v, anything less and it's unstable unfortunately. I'm using P-states to do my OC (BIOS 4.4) with a downclock idle to the 2.2ghz @ .9v except I'm not seeing it downclock at idle. Do I need to go into power saving settings and put an idle into the power setting profile?  ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi V4.4| Ryzen 1800x | 16GB x 2 DDR4 3200 (14cas) | GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N | WD NVMe Black 512GB | 2 x 500GB Samsung EVO 960 | Corsair HX1000 | EK Custom Loop (360mm rad + 280mm rad) |