XMP settings
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Topic: XMP settings
Posted By: stree
Subject: XMP settings
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2018 at 9:57pm
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Decided to have a look in BIOS (X370 Fatality ITX ac BIOS 3.10) to see how to OC my 2400 Crucial Ballistix to 2666 ( no heavy GPU stuff so nothing dramatic required, just read in sticky here that 2666mhz is the sweet spot for users such as me .. Not quite sure how to read what I see, so comments welcome. We all have to start somewhere............. https://i.imgur.com/fdcuKEs.png" rel="nofollow - https://i.imgur.com/fdcuKEs.png https://i.imgur.com/MA2CVBd.png" rel="nofollow - https://i.imgur.com/MA2CVBd.png ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 1:11am
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The line "DRAM Frequency" Click on the item "DDR4-3733" and you will be offered a myriad of choices. You chose 3733 previously, which Boot Training obviously corrected for. Choose 2666 from the list and post back the results. Hint: When Enables, AM4 Advanced Boot Training will maybe override your selection, so consider that. |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 1:32am
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Right, got that....... ( not sure where the 3733 came from though!) will have a go at 2666 and check with CPU-z Many thanks. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 2:09am
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A Primer of sorts. Ryzen/ThreadRipper DRAM settings and their function. https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/05/25/community-update-4-lets-talk-dram" rel="nofollow - https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/05/25/community-update-4-lets-talk-dram The options available will vary from board to board, BIOSes too. |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 2:34am
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as above really the ram may well jump to 2666 with those loose timings (maybe set the ram volts to 1.35~1.375) you may need to adjust 'fail count' to 5 (top option second linked picture) and before patting yourself on the back turn it off leave 10 mins and cold boot it the cold boot with overclocked ram is the hard part to get right  ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 4:04am
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As you suggested, and straight to 2666............so very happy with that..........i know its a fleabite compared to what some people are attempting and getting, but this is only an R3-1200 with an R7 240 2GB........ and destined for a RavenRidge next month anyway......or t least after first few reviews signal its good and stable......So 2666 is great! Thanks again for the guiding hands and words you guys, much appreciated. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 6:49am
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so easily pleased....................... have ya not tried 2933 yet man !!!!  ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 8:00am
Or so says a guy still struggling to hit 4Ghz!  |
datonyb wrote:Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2018 at 6:56pm
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HaHa....You have me sussed Datonyb!.I know I`m a wuss......but whole OC thing is new to me, only the Ryzen platform being so flexible and amenable to a tweak , whilst at the same time benefiting from faster ram, given me the urge to at least have a go.... I admit, I am sore tempted to keep on pushing, see what it will go to........... It is cheap ram, but by a few accounts decent enough, Crucial Ballocks, sport 2400, 2 x8Gb and dual, not just 2 sticks, and was £65 last October from Amazon.........Sheeesh. Just run it at 2666 a day or so, then maybe another tweak......... ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 2:32am
with my half price ram sitting at 3333 4ghz ?? oh yes that the speed you 'core-lacking' chaps have to clock too isnt it  (nice to see your back posting wardog ..........you old dog sir ! ) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 2:37am
to be honest now with later bios releases its a lot easier to play with ram than last march-april check the 2666 is stable ,save it in bios as a profile ,and give the 2933 setting a try as i said your ram is sitting at quite loose timings , maybe you will need to give the ram a little voltage tickle 1.35-1.375, and test it again if it dosnt play nicely then click the saved profile back on for 2666 i got 2400 cursair ram to 2933 on simple one click a-xmp on a b350 msi and thats been stable for many months now as i said though its the cold start the next day that may play up ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 2:55am
The money I saved on my half price processor went into memory  |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 3:00am
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Ta for that: I have the voltage at 1.35 now, seems stable enough, saved as profile 1 (of 3) I thought to try 2800 next, then look at timings.. done a google round on clocking this ram and lots of positives on just playing with the timing, even to point of leaving the speed alone.Reduced latency etc makes up for actual Mhz Does seem it is noted as a decent overclocking ram though, nothing outrageous, but a decent tweak to be had. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 3:06am
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There are literally terabytes on mem overclocking. Read, tinker, learn. And in that process don't hesitate to clear the BIOS vs 9.3hrs of headbanging. We're here when ya need us. |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 3:28am
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" rel="nofollow - You mean CMOS? ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 4:50am
Yes. I personally refer to it as the BIOS. Same thing. |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2018 at 6:02am
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So it is....understood... ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2018 at 11:18pm
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Quick update. 2933 Northbridge AMD Ryzen SOC rev. 00 Southbridge AMD X370 rev. 51 Graphic Interface PCI-Express PCI-E Link Width x8 PCI-E Max Link Width x8 Memory Type DDR4 Memory Size 16 GBytes Channels Dual Memory Frequency 1463.2 MHz (3:44) CAS# latency (CL) 16.0 RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 16 RAS# Precharge (tRP) 16 Cycle Time (tRAS) 39 Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 55 Command Rate (CR) 1T Uncore Frequency 1463.2 MHz So see if this keeps stable and if so, ready for the 2400G later this week. Many thanks chaps. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2018 at 3:36am
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remember though you may have to start again with the new cpu as the memory controller is on the chip but knowing your ram is half the battle .it may even be a better memory controller on the new 2400g you get ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2018 at 7:49pm
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" rel="nofollow - Got that. Have a lot more confidence after being walked through it by members here Point of interest for anyone going for the Raven ridge..seems dual rank gives much better performance than single, dual channel or not........ Unsure of my ram I did some digging...............and found this. If it is accurate it may come in handy for some. geizhals.eu/?cat=ramddr3&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&fcols=5015&fcols=255&fcols=439&sort=p&bl1_id=30&xf=1126_Crucial~1126_Micron~253_16384~439_dual~5828_DDR4~5830_UDIMM1~5831_DIMM PS if link works, mine is 4th down..... https://imgur.com/gXUgsaS ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 3:08am
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save or take a photo of ram settings and clear cmos before booting up the new cpu mate ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 3:33am
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" rel="nofollow - can screenshot this BIOS with f12......... Tried 3066 and 3200, set voltage at 1.35, even loosened timings a bit but just hangs about a while and defaults to 2400. Failover set to 5. happy nuff with 2933, ( for now) and might have another dabble later. Point noted about clearing CMOS prior to new CPU/APU. Makes sense. Was going to use AIDA64 but only 30 day trial with some data blanked, so any freeware alternatives worth a look? Found lots but hard to know what`s good and what`s not. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 3:46am
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yeah my aida run out too i just use cinebench to test ,its not as good for specific numbers but hey i do 5 runs take the best score and compare it to next set of timings and speed for the ram to see if it actually got better or worse example being some tighter extreme profile timings for 3200 run better than fast 3333 and its more stable (circa 10 cinebench points better) i am a big fan of 1usmus ryzen timing calculator though it makes things a lot quicker and i must say better than my own trial and error ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 7:10pm
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Will have a go with cinebench as you suggest, Wardog said he just uses 3Dmark now because of the detrimental effects some of the other similar programmes can have. 3Dmark takes ages though. Not heard of that 1usmus calculator bfore, I will have a look at that too. Thanks again ! ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 3:40am
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here ya go http://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-0-0-beta-overclocking-dram-am4.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-0-0-beta-overclocking-dram-am4.html its quite simple to use takes about 20 mins to do once again take piccies or print off the table then refer to them in bios to make settings ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 7:44pm
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" rel="nofollow - Take pic of ram setting in BIOS before I start, to use as the reference entry in the calculator? and does it need all boxes to have info, or could I say just use basics, vcore, timings, Mhz speed, etc without the deeper level stuff? Calculator does look good, but a bit daunting to begin with..... ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 3:23am
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its a walk in the park mate there should st5ill be a video guide on that link basically heres the deal you download a program called thiaphoon burner run it and extract your actual rams timings and data you enter this into the left hand coloum then select the speed you WANT to run it at, this then can calculate timings specifically for your rams chips to enter into bios to suit ryzen more than the settings from xmp to suit intel your choices are safe/fast/extreme its the results after you click calculate from dram calculator you want to print or tak a phone piccie then fly into bios and use the results and yes im afraid you want to FIND ALL the bits in your bios to adjust as the ryzen timing calculator works on ALL settings matching its results e.g. if you just enter the first 6 main ones then the chances of it working are slimmer by far and to be honest much less stable and zippier than some good settings like trfc which is very very high as stock but can be reduced vastly for a good increase in system ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 4:13am
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Ah that helps! I have dloaded Taiphonn Burner, loaded my Dram, and printed the results. Also dloaded 1ismus, but was under impression I had to manually transfer all burner info on my ram over to the calculator.that is what stalled me.. some headers-descriptions don't match and did not want to enter wrong figure in any box. I will just concentrate on what is needed in the left hand column, then select speed etc. Quite a learning curve this last week or so! So have to give the nod to you for your help! PS just had a quick look round the big 5 sites.........UK . and some serious off loading going on as you say! ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 4:28am
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yeah just scroll down thiaphoon to last xmp box click show results in nanoseconds and thats the numbers you enter i just watched mindblank (youtube) clocking the bejesus out of a 2400g and his ram 3.9ghz/1550 mhz gpu/3466 ram truely he loves the 2400g and how its the go to apu if your planning on a £100 gpu (1030gtx or rx550) good news for guys facing stupid gpu prices trickled down due to crypto prices on higher end cards some mad results around 10mins 30 seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VfB5_pI8kU towards the end of video hes astonished how the apu can give 80 frames at 3440 resolution  ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 9:47pm
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Thanks for added info. 2400G is due anytime, so may wait until that is in before having a go.......but will practice data entry anyway, to get used to it. Mindblank vid is amazing. really gets some results! ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 1:11am
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mindblank is a smart guy was the first youtube channel to show ram at 3600, now the clever fracker runs 3600 ram at cl14 fair play to him, he also is pretty good with sharing tips and tricks and good detailed testing it does indeed look like the 2400g has a considerably better memory controller though,which it should'nt be that much so due to same arctitechture, but hey ho the ram speed is now even more important to ryzens with the added graphics ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 2:24am
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3200 would be enough for me! Just trying typhoon and 1usmus. dry runs..............got it , apart from which data box corresponds with which, bit tricky.slightly different terminology and in different order............trying to work it out before committing to a real run ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 3:20am
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im lucky with mine mostly all thiaphoon/ryzen calculator and the bios are in same order like most things just double check everything the CAD section is worst ,as there are two cad sections you want the one with 4 tabs not 3 and the adjusted settings are in ohms ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 3:21am
ps you dont have a cold boot dram section so dont look for it  but you should have 'dram power down' disable that switch amd advanced boot training on/auto and set try attempts to 5 (in dram timing tab) ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 3:22am
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pps i doubt you will get 3200 on that ballistic 2400 ram though 2933 would be a good result with cl14-cl16 timings ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 6:31pm
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I agree: I am happy enough with 2933 on that ram, and it is still a bargain, bought in March 17 fr £65 for 2x8GB on Amzon. I still have 2 x 8GB Corsair vengeance LPX @ 3200mhz, so I think I will use that when I put the 2400G in later today. I am lifting a 1200 and that can go in my other ITX MB, ASrock AB350 ITX, so I can get up to the 4.4 BIOS on that too, because I hope to get a 2200G on that board! The 2933 Crucial can live on that. Some amazing vids coming out re these RR APUs! ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 11:44pm
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BIOS4.4 update gave grief: No 960 M.2 boot found........just gone onto Beta 4.43 and all back to normal......So will have a recap and see if I can do the Taiphoon 1Usmus business. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 2:39am
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keep us updated mate its all good info what you can get ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 3:22am
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" rel="nofollow - Will do! Oh best mention, something I think you recommended I do after BIOS update........on first boot afterwards go back into BIOS and set UEFI to default. Well I went into BIOS and was a bit concerned that the 960 still was not showing...........just something called "easi drive 1100" or similar. Anyway, set UEFI to default and 960 immediately appeared on the list! and the strange drive was gone. So saved and let it boot into windows and all seems well. Any particular tests you would like me to run? Just ran cinebench CPU......807 ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |