BIOS 4.43 on AB350 ITX board
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Topic: BIOS 4.43 on AB350 ITX board
Posted By: nanohead
Subject: BIOS 4.43 on AB350 ITX board
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 3:27am
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Well, happened to see the post here that the link went live. DLed it, and just did the update. Really good so far. Temps are fixed. Clock Speeds aren't dancing around anymore. AIDA 64 is now accurate on fans, temps, clocks and RAM stats Ryzen Master is now consistent with F-Stream and AIDA64 F-Stream is now working properly. Didn't try any CPU overclocking (don't care that much) but I do have Cool and Quiet turned off (this avoids all those nuisance system level firmware error messages in the event log) Currently running at 39C, with CPU fan at 866 RPM. Very respectable indeed. Not sure if the graphics corruption is fixed yet. Had major problems on powerpoint and other work software since the upgrade, but am testing now. That might be Radeon software that is wonky.
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Posted By: aguslestari
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 9:19pm
How about shared memory ? " rel="nofollow -
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nanohead wrote:Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 10:23pm
No longer limited to 2GB. I'm not sure what the new limit is because I have 16 GB of RAM and 16 GB was offered. FWIW I set mine to 128 MB.
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Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 12:05am
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Only one issue with mine since BIOS 4.43, but it must be co-incidence, because as far as I know the problem I now have is a Windows issue ( I am on win10-pro 64 bit) Since the BIOS update the sleep option on the start button has vanished. I have shut down and restart only. Not in the options when I go into powerplans etc.. Only mentioning it because I have used the sleep options and wake on keyboard for years without a problem, so it i strange I get issues at the exact time I update to this BIOS. Apart from that seems to be running great! was down to 20c on idle this morning with fan set to silent mode. cool n quiet ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 12:43am
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I'm using Windows 10 Pro 64-bit too and I do have Sleep as an option under "Shut down or sign out". I started off using the AMD Ryzen Balanced power profile but modified it to never let the computer sleep and I also set the monitor sleep time to 20 minutes. I did these changes under the P4.40 BIOS and haven't touched them since upgrading to L4.43. I don't use Sleep. I either leave it running or shut it down. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 12:57am
Strangely enough I do now have "Hibernate" as an option that was never there before. Tried it,but it was more like shut down, no wake on keyboard, had to use pwr button to get back to windows, which then presented me with a password screen...and I do not have a password! so rebooted pressing F8, and it went straight into the screen I had left open when I tried hibernate. So in a long winded way, it worked, but until I find a fix I will just turn off the monitor or shut down.. I will go back in and see what the Ryzen power settings are, although I have never used it before. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 2:40am
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I used to use Hibernate on an old Windows XP laptop. In case you're unsure of the difference, Sleep keeps everything in RAM and powers everything else down with just enough circuitry active to keep the RAM refreshed; Hibernate writes the whole of the RAM contents to a file on disk then sets a boot flag and shuts down. Wake from Sleep is almost instantaneous; wake from Hibernate is rather like booting except that the boot flag is noticed and the contents of RAM are loaded from disk instead. Sleep uses power to keep the RAM alive; Hibernate is a true power-off state and can be maintained indefinitely. They are both useful for preserving the state of the system and running applications but, as I said, I prefer either to leave my computer running or else shut it down and start it cleanly. They are a lot more useful on a laptop than a desktop. With an NVMe boot drive it's way quicker to boot from cold than it used to be. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 2:48am
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In Windows take a look at Control Panel > All Control Panel Items > Power Options and click on "Choose what the power buttons do" then see the "Shut-down settings" at the bottom. If you want to change anything you might need to click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable". Well, that's how to change things. Quite how they got changed "by themselves" I have no idea. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 2:56am
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Thanks, more or less as I understood it. I suppose I have got used to just opting for sleep and then coming back to it and waking with a touch of a key. I usually have one or more tabs of interest on screen at packing up time, so very convenient to just resume as was. I realise hibernate will do exactly that, but the long winded procedure ( compared to sleep/wake on key) of it really does not appeal. So I will just power down the monitor instead of sleep and do a full shut down as and when needed. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 5:23am
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" rel="nofollow - Did you try re-enabling Sleep in Control Panel, like I suggested? You can also disable Hibernate if you don't want it. Maybe you missed that post. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 6:33am
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yes, I can disable hibernate ok, but no sleep option anywhere ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 6:46am
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" rel="nofollow - Oh! That's strange. I'm at a loss then. Maybe Google will show something? ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: jasonfreeland
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 7:39am
| " rel="nofollow - Where in the bios are you setting the IGP ram amount? I have the x370 version and am not seeing it anywhere. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 7:54am
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Edit: Sorry, the URL didn't work. Here's a cut and paste instead: Advanced\ AMD CBS\ NBIO Common Options\ GFX Config IGC : Forces UMA Mode : UMA_Spec UMA Frame Buffer : 512 MB Once you've navigated through the complex page structure of the Advanced menu change IGC to "Forces" (sic. maybe it should read "Forced"). Once you have done that The UMA Mode item appears. Once you have changed that to "UMA_Spec" the UMA Frame Buffer item appears. You can change that to whatever you want but consider this, 2GB is the maximum you can allocate to the iGPU. Auto means that the amount dedicated to the iGPU depends on how much system RAM you have installed and is set at system start up. On my board 16 GB of RAM results in 1 GB being reserved when set to Auto. I understand that 32 GB would result in 2 GB being reserved and 8 GB would result in 512 MB being reserved (so 1/16 of the available RAM, which seems like a reasonable default). However, once RAM is reserved for the iGPU it is not available to Windows so you may not want to allocate the maximum 2 GB, especially since Windows can always dynamically allocate more to the iGPU anyway. Because the iGPU has no special VRAM of its own there is no speed difference between dedicated iGPU memory and dynamically allocated system memory and therefore little to be gained by dedicating a big chunk of the system memory to it unless a specific application (such as a particular game) checks how much GPU memory is present. YouTuber "Hardware Unboxed" did an in depth test of this if you're interested. So please don't simply set the amount to maximum without giving it some thought. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 7:58am
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That was for BIOS 4.40. The better beta 4.43 version relaxes the 2 GB limit. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: jasonfreeland
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 8:04am
| Thanks JohnM. It's for my father to play flight sims on, so I think I'll just leave it alone. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 8:08am
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After a bit of experimenting I've decided to leave it set to 256 MB but I'm not much of a gamer. The default seems like a pretty good choice if you can't make up your mind. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: nanohead
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 7:35am
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I just use mine for regular office and business stuff. Left my VRAM at default also. Running pretty well actually. The only change I really noticed is that the Windows power plans no longer seem to function at all. Regardless of what power plan I select, the speeds and clocks are the same. Might be a Windows problem, or possibly a some low level driver that AMD needs to fix and supply Microsoft so it shows up in Windows Update at some point. Other than that, its running cool and quiet
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Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 8:06am
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" rel="nofollow - How are the clocks behaving? I have the Ryzen Balanced profile selected but I have set it never to sleep the computer. At idle the clocks of my 2400G go down to 1600 MHz and when all cores are busy the clocks reach 3625 MHz on all four cores simultaneously. With one core busy the clock can spike up to 4000 MHz. That's with Cool 'n' Quiet enabled and no attempt at overclocking the cores. The GPU varies between 400 MHz at idle and 1240 MHz on sustained OpenCL load. I've never seen it reach the 1250 MHz that AMD claims but otherwise I think it's working extremely well. I'm slightly overclocking my RAM to 2933 MHz without increasing the voltage and getting the benefit of the higher uncore clock of 1466 MHz. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 6:08pm
I note some similarities between observations you have made and issues I have come across too. First thing to ask, are you now on BIOS 4.43, and subsequently downloaded and installed the latest chipset drivers and the Radeon Graphics driver, which incidentally MUST be done in that order, or the older chipset drivers will overwrite the correct Radeon drivers. Also, you can have problems if your Windows version is 1703 upgraded to 1709 rather than a true 1709 version. I have outlined in another thread my issues with the sleep function on the start button and also mentioned it here. I have finally resolved this, and I think it may well be linked to your power plan problems. Sleep function on the button actions is in powerplan as you know, so this is linked. I tried every option under every power plan to get back the sleep option but it never showed, just hibernate which I do not want. Eventually found out that the problem is caused by not having the up to date Radeon driver! I must have installed the Radeon driver before the chipset driver: I uninstalled the Radeon driver, then reinstalled, and the sleep option is back. So with the sleep option being part of the powerplan, and being prone to problems if the correct display is not installed, I have to conclude that the display driver has some influence on the powerplan functions. So it may be worth exploring that option to get your plan back into line. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |