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Topic: WiFi BSOD on AB350 Gaming mITX/ACPosted By: XavierMace
Subject: WiFi BSOD on AB350 Gaming mITX/AC
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2018 at 3:39pm
" rel="nofollow - Picked up an AB350 Gaming mITX/AC and an Ryzen 3 2200G. Flashed BIOS to 4.40. System works great. Until you use the WiFi for more than 10 minutes. BSOD for DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION. Event log has a mountain of errors for the WiFi adapter sending an unexpected response. This occurs with whatever driver Windows 10 used by default, the driver from Asrock's site, and the driver from Intel. Disable the WiFi adapter and system runs fine. Clean Win10 install via a fresh media disk from the media creation tool.
Any suggestions? Any chance of the 4.43 Beta BIOS fixing this?
It's probably worth mentioning I've seen other reports of the exact same error in the exact same situation.
Replies: Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2018 at 8:17pm
" rel="nofollow - I use cabled Ethernet in preference to WiFi so I can't help with your specific problem but I do recommend switching to the beta 4.43 BIOS. It might or might not fix your WiFi problem but it does fix a number of others. Maybe look for a newer driver from Intel?
Posted By: XavierMace
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 1:53am
Already tried the latest Intel driver, no change. Unfortunately in it's current location, wired isn't an option at this time.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 2:19am
That still leaves you the beta BIOS to try and, a long shot but worth trying, re-seat the WiFi module in its socket. It involves removing the screws holding the metal can together but inside the module is sitting in a socket.
Posted By: rjeftw
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 4:37am
XavierMace wrote:
" rel="nofollow - Picked up an AB350 Gaming mITX/AC and an Ryzen 3 2200G. Flashed BIOS to 4.40. System works great. Until you use the WiFi for more than 10 minutes. BSOD for DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION. Event log has a mountain of errors for the WiFi adapter sending an unexpected response. This occurs with whatever driver Windows 10 used by default, the driver from Asrock's site, and the driver from Intel. Disable the WiFi adapter and system runs fine. Clean Win10 install via a fresh media disk from the media creation tool.
Any suggestions? Any chance of the 4.43 Beta BIOS fixing this?
It's probably worth mentioning I've seen other reports of the exact same error in the exact same situation.
Having the same exact issue... with that board and my spare Asrock X370 Killer. Hopefully a fix pops up somewhere. Hopefully someone will point us in the right direction.
------------- Asrock X370 Killer | Ryzen 1700 3.8GHZ 1.2v | Noctua D15/ H100i V2 | 2x8GB Team Dark 3000mhz | MSI GTX 980 Ti | 27" Dell G Sync | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | EVGA 750W G3 | Cosair Air 540
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 4:51am
XavierMace, I have an X399, so am an observer on all these X370 and AB350 problems with the BIOS/UEFI updates. It looks like to me that ASRock has turned loose a batch of bad UEFI updates. So you have a choice to make: go back to before the problems began or flash to the latest, maybe Beta, Bios and hope for the best. Lots of users seem to be having good luck with the Beta. Concerning Drivers: Get your chip set drivers here: https://support.amd.com/en-us/download" rel="nofollow - https://support.amd.com/en-us/download Get other drivers from the manufacturer such as Intel and Realtek NOT from the from the ASRock DL page except in rare cases (eg, RAID) - they are almost always old. Enjoy, John.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 7:39am
+1. BIOS 4.40 is bad. Beta 4.43 is much better. There are other threads about it and I had problems myself with 4.40 that were fixed by upgrading to 4.43. Other people have reported problems with the WiFi card but I don't use mine. I haven't even taken the aerials out of the box, but it is enabled and has Intel drivers loaded.
Posted By: XavierMace
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 12:57pm
MisterJ wrote:
XavierMace, I have an X399, so am an observer on all these X370 and AB350 problems with the BIOS/UEFI updates. It looks like to me that ASRock has turned loose a batch of bad UEFI updates. So you have a choice to make: go back to before the problems began or flash to the latest, maybe Beta, Bios and hope for the best. Lots of users seem to be having good luck with the Beta. Concerning Drivers: Get your chip set drivers here: https://support.amd.com/en-us/download" rel="nofollow - https://support.amd.com/en-us/download Get other drivers from the manufacturer such as Intel and Realtek NOT from the from the ASRock DL page except in rare cases (eg, RAID) - they are almost always old. Enjoy, John.
Unfortunately 4.40 is the oldest BIOS to support the new chips. I'm also familiar with where/how to download drivers. You'll note I mentioned twice already that I've tried multiple drivers.
JohnM wrote:
+1. BIOS 4.40 is bad. Beta 4.43 is much better. There are other threads about it and I had problems myself with 4.40 that were fixed by upgrading to 4.43. Other people have reported problems with the WiFi card but I don't use mine. I haven't even taken the aerials out of the box, but it is enabled and has Intel drivers loaded.
I'll try the 4.43 tomorrow but I'm not going to hold my breath. I'd love to know if yours BSOD's if you start using the wireless as I'm curious how consistent this issue is.
Posted By: brianY
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 1:14am
" rel="nofollow - I also have the same problem. I use the same board and the 2400G. I got the problem when I full load the wifi (such as speed test). I brought the board in 14 Feb. The bios was updated to P4.40 by the component shop. I guess the BSOD problem because of the BIOS update process. For example BIOS may be updated from P3.4 -> P3.6 -> P4.4 but the BIOS was updated from P3.4 -> P4.4. I cannot verify my guess because I don't have another ryzen CPU. Is it really relate by the BIOS update process or not?
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 1:30am
" rel="nofollow -
XavierMace wrote:
I'll try the 4.43 tomorrow but I'm not going to hold my breath. I'd love to know if yours BSOD's if you start using the wireless as I'm curious how consistent this issue is.
No problem. I'll give it a try and report back. Is there anything I should do to try to provoke it, like copying a batch of large files over the network?
Posted By: XavierMace
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 2:27am
JohnM wrote:
" rel="nofollow -
XavierMace wrote:
I'll try the 4.43 tomorrow but I'm not going to hold my breath. I'd love to know if yours BSOD's if you start using the wireless as I'm curious how consistent this issue is.
No problem. I'll give it a try and report back. Is there anything I should do to try to provoke it, like copying a batch of large files over the network?
For me, any sustained usage will do it. Netflix, Steam, SMB file transfers.
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 3:15am
brianY wrote:
" rel="nofollow - I also have the same problem. I use the same board and the 2400G. I got the problem when I full load the wifi (such as speed test). I brought the board in 14 Feb. The bios was updated to P4.40 by the component shop. I guess the BSOD problem because of the BIOS update process. For example BIOS may be updated from P3.4 -> P3.6 -> P4.4 but the BIOS was updated from P3.4 -> P4.4. I cannot verify my guess because I don't have another ryzen CPU. Is it really relate by the BIOS update process or not?
As you guessed , BIOS 3.4 to 4.40 is heading for trouble, but if you load a usb with the 3.6 and 4.43 unpacked instant flash files, you should have a choice to install either, so select 3.6. install reboot, set UEFI defaults, save n exit, then reboot and install 4.43 Then see if WiFi is behaving. Just installing 4.43 0ver 4.40 after 3.4 with the bridge (3.6) BIOS is not going to work.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 7:16am
I did a test with my WiFi card, connecting to my access point about 3 metres away using the 5 GHz band. I got a strong signal and connected at 150 Mb/s (I don't have an ac access point, just n, since I use cable whenever possible). I tried an SMB transfer of a 4 GB file which proceeded at around 10 MB/s but I got a BSOD before it completed. Pretty conclusive, I think. I hope that's enough testing because I'm going back to cabled Ethernet now!
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 8:42am
" rel="nofollow - Will someone please upload a minidump I can look at. You too, JohnM. There should be a minidump folder in your Windows folder. Please compress it and upload it so I can access it. Thanks and enjoy, John.
Posted By: Johannes
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 10:11pm
I'm having the same issue as the others with WiFi causing BSOD with heavy traffic. This is with a fresh install of Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (v1709 / build 16299.248). Drivers installed from vendors (including the WiFi driver from Intel).
System is a 2400G on an ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac board with the 4.43beta BIOS installed. Everything else appears to be rock solid. I don't think it's a contributing issue, but I'll be running MemTest86 for several hours this afternoon to make sure the RAM checks out.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ee0qff8awfmbxf8/022618-3687-01.zip%3cdl=0" rel="nofollow - Minidump Dropbox Link
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 12:19am
Thanks, Johannes, DLed fine - will examine. Please post a link to where you DLed the driver. Thanks and enjoy, John.
EDIT: This looks like a nasty error and is probably caused by the BIOS/UEFI. I ask that a few of you complain to ASRock by opening an ASRock Technical Support ticket. It is possible they are not aware of this problem. I will continue to look but am not very hopeful.
Posted By: Johannes
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 5:54am
MisterJ wrote:
Thanks, Johannes, DLed fine - will examine. Please post a link to where you DLed the driver. Thanks and enjoy, John.
EDIT: This looks like a nasty error and is probably caused by the BIOS/UEFI. I ask that a few of you complain to ASRock by opening an ASRock Technical Support ticket. It is possible they are not aware of this problem. I will continue to look but am not very hopeful.
Thanks for taking a look. I opened a ticket with ASRock after making the post earlier and included the same link, so hopefully that helps. MemTest86 showed no signs of RAM issues, as expected. In the interest of completeness, here are the drivers I installed:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27493/Wireless-Intel-Wireless-Bluetooth-for-Windows-10%3cproduct=94854" rel="nofollow - Intel Wireless Bluetooth
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#Download" rel="nofollow - Realtek Audio Driver from ASRock v.8067
Hope it helps, and I echo MisterJ's suggestion that others in this thread open a support ticket with ASRock to get this issue resolved. It's the one issue I'm having in an otherwise lovely new build.
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 9:27am
Johannes, most of your links do not work. The forum mucks-up most links, so I always test them with the Preview function. Just pasting the raw link seems to work best. Always get your AMD (& Radeon) drivers here: https://support.amd.com/en-us/download" rel="nofollow - https://support.amd.com/en-us/download If you did not get your chip set and Radeon drivers from AMD (my link above), then please do and test again. First please do this for me: Windows Key i-Apps-AMD Software-Modify. This will provide a window listing the chip set drivers. It takes a few seconds. Please post a screenshot - not just the number. In general never get drivers from ASRock DL page - almost always down level. Some you must get from ASRock - RAID for example. Thanks and enjoy, John.
Posted By: Johannes
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 9:44am
MisterJ wrote:
Johannes, most of your links do not work. The forum mucks-up most links, so I always test them with the Preview function. Just pasting the raw link seems to work best. Always get your AMD (& Radeon) drivers here: https://support.amd.com/en-us/download" rel="nofollow - https://support.amd.com/en-us/download If you did not get your chip set and Radeon drivers from AMD (my link above), then please do and test again. First please do this for me: Windows Key i-Apps-AMD Software-Modify. This will provide a window listing the chip set drivers. It takes a few seconds. Please post a screenshot - not just the number. In general never get drivers from ASRock DL page - almost always down level. Some you must get from ASRock - RAID for example. Thanks and enjoy, John.
Oops, I didn't realize that the forum breaks links. I obtained all of my drivers directly from AMD (chipset & Radeon) and Intel (ethernet, WiFi, & Bluetooth), with the exception of the Realtek audio drivers. Realtek's website was not very helpful, and I could not find drivers for the onboard audio there. I decided to use ASRock's drivers for audio.
I am currently at work, but I will posts screenshot of the window listing the chipset drivers when I get home about 10 hours from now. Thank you for your assistance!
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 9:59am
Thanks, Johannes. I am beginning to wonder if the Wi-Fi will work with no driver installed. W10 should provide a driver if you delete the Intel one. Or, perhaps Intel released a bad driver - maybe try an older Intel driver. I'm rally guessing now. Enjoy, John.
Posted By: Johannes
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 10:06am
MisterJ wrote:
Thanks, Johannes. I am beginning to wonder if the Wi-Fi will work with no driver installed. W10 should provide a driver if you delete the Intel one. Or, perhaps Intel released a bad driver - maybe try an older Intel driver. I'm rally guessing now. Enjoy, John.
I had the same BSOD issue when downloading Windows Updates over WiFi after my initial clean install, which was an outdated pre-1709 version of Windows 10. I had not yet installed any drivers at that point and was using the Windows 10 provided WiFi driver. Granted, that was with an outdated version of Windows 10, so it's not ideal, but I can say that I had the same issue with the Windows WiFi driver. It was at that point that I decided to start over with a clean install of the latest Windows 10 version, but the WiFi problem remained.
I will do the further testing as you suggest to help narrow down the issue and report back. Thanks again!
Posted By: XavierMace
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 10:20am
Built in drivers on the current build of Windows 10 exhibit the same behavior.
Posted By: slicingblade
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 10:47am
I've noticed on the newest intel driver that if I watch a video in full screen on youtube it will BSOD almost immediately, however if I remain out of full screen it won't.
Posted By: hurtz
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 10:59am
I can trigger one pretty quickly by starting a torrent. I'm going to open a case with Asrock, hoping others have reported this as well.
Posted By: Johannes
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2018 at 7:54pm
MisterJ wrote:
First please do this for me: Windows Key i-Apps-AMD Software-Modify. This will provide a window listing the chip set drivers. It takes a few seconds. Please post a screenshot - not just the number.
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2018 at 12:47am
Thanks, Johannes. Here's mine: https://postimg.org/image/y1gfqm4ot/" rel="nofollow"> The 18.2.3 refers to my Radeon video driver. We do not share all drivers because of system differences. You might update your video and chip set drivers and do another one of these and see what has changed.
I still have no eureka to report on the minidump. Many people have this BSOD on many machines under many different conditions. Have not determined any commonality to your problems. For all who have reported this to ASRock, please let us hear if you get a response. Does anyone know if there is a BIOS/UEFI that does not have this problem? What would be lost going back to that version until this is corrected? This is a long shot, but I suggest at least one user open a support ticket with AMD - could be the AGESA.
Posted By: XavierMace
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2018 at 1:45pm
MisterJ wrote:
Many people have this BSOD on many machines under many different conditions. Have not determined any commonality to your problems.
Yes we have. Everyone having issues is running Raven Ridge and it's the WiFi causing the problem. I appreciate that you're trying to help, but you're now just having people try random things for giggles. There's only two BIOS options for us. 4.40 and the 4.43 Beta, both of which have the same issue. I've already started the RMA for my board, I'll replace it with a Gigabyte since WiFi actually works on theirs with Raven Ridge.
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2018 at 12:21am
Posted By: XavierMace
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2018 at 8:49am
" rel="nofollow -
JohnM wrote:
Is that indeed the case, meaning that if you were to use a Summit Ridge CPU the WiFi problem would not be present?
I don't think Raven Ridge is the problem in and of itself. But Raven Ridge prevents us from using an older BIOS. Since I didn't feel like playing musical chairs with CPU's, I opted to go the RMA route and get a board that doesn't seem to have this problem. Which is a pity, as I generally prefer Asrock.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2018 at 9:18am
" rel="nofollow - So you think it's a problem with BIOSes 4.40 and 4.43? OK. Well, I'm sure there will be a 4.50 coming along soon. Personally, I would have waited.
For me the choice was between the ASRock and Gigabyte ITX boards, too, with the Asus ones being non-starters for Raven Ridge APUs. I chose ASRock because of the better VRM cooling and because the layout of the headers better suited my case. I don't use the WiFi (but that's no excuse for it not working) but I'm disappointed that there's no USB 3.1 Gen 2 - though that appears to be common to all ASRock B350 boards. There may be exceptions but I don't know of them.
Posted By: rjeftw
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2018 at 11:59am
Still experiencing the same issues, I have another 2-3 weeks to return it. However my support ticket yielded Asrock sending me a new bios chip. Wonder if that will do anything.
Patience is a hard thing, but luckily this isn't my primary machine.
------------- Asrock X370 Killer | Ryzen 1700 3.8GHZ 1.2v | Noctua D15/ H100i V2 | 2x8GB Team Dark 3000mhz | MSI GTX 980 Ti | 27" Dell G Sync | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | EVGA 750W G3 | Cosair Air 540
Posted By: XavierMace
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2018 at 1:54pm
JohnM wrote:
" rel="nofollow - So you think it's a problem with BIOSes 4.40 and 4.43? OK. Well, I'm sure there will be a 4.50 coming along soon. Personally, I would have waited.
For me the choice was between the ASRock and Gigabyte ITX boards, too, with the Asus ones being non-starters for Raven Ridge APUs. I chose ASRock because of the better VRM cooling and because the layout of the headers better suited my case. I don't use the WiFi (but that's no excuse for it not working) but I'm disappointed that there's no USB 3.1 Gen 2 - though that appears to be common to all ASRock B350 boards. There may be exceptions but I don't know of them.
The BIOS seems to be the only reasonable option. The Gigabyte board is using a nearly identical WiFi setup. Intel PCIe M.2 module, they're just using the older 3165 instead of the 3168. But both are extremely common modules. If there was an issue with the Intel or Microsoft drivers or the cards themselves, you'd be hearing about it else where.
I prefer the layout of the headers on the Asrock too as well as having a brand preference for Asrock. But not enough to sit around hoping for a quick BIOS update. Without WiFi the board is useless for me. The Gigabyte board is cheaper and has USB 3.1 Gen 2 as well as functioning WiFi.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2018 at 7:48pm
Good luck with the Gigabyte. Shame it has a Realtek NIC, but I suppose you won't be using it.
Posted By: solartrifle
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 6:33am
Can confirm that I am having the same issue with 2400G. I already got sick of dealing with Gigabyte since I got a dead ITX board from them and opted for ASRock, which apparently has a faulty wifi adapter :(
In any case, I think I will just be purchasing a USB wifi adapter and finding some way to disable the on-board one.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 8:58am
solartrifle wrote:
In any case, I think I will just be purchasing a USB wifi adapter and finding some way to disable the on-board one.
You can turn it off in the BIOS or you can disable it in Windows.
Posted By: solartrifle
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 9:03am
JohnM wrote:
solartrifle wrote:
In any case, I think I will just be purchasing a USB wifi adapter and finding some way to disable the on-board one.
You can turn it off in the BIOS or you can disable it in Windows.
Yep! I carried my rig into the living room and hooked it up to the router and, lo and behold, everything is stable once i disable the wifi adapter.
Hoping ASRock and/or Intel pushes out updates to fix the on-board wifi soon. I'll push a ticket through to them about it anyways
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 9:12am
Yes, that's how I run mine. Bluetooth works fine, by the way. XavierMace's argument is convincing. The Intel WiFi cards are quite common so it's unlikely to be a driver problem. I think there will be a new non-beta BIOS released soon and I expect it will fix it. We'll see.
Posted By: PUNK2018
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 11:36pm
" rel="nofollow - Hi, same problem here, just set up a PC with the Board and get many BSOD while transfering huge amounts of data via wireless networking. Switchted to a wired connection and no problems so far.
Also, where in the BIOS do i change the amount of VRAM used by the APU?
Kind Regards from germany
Posted By: hurtz
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 12:47am
JohnM wrote:
Yes, that's how I run mine. Bluetooth works fine, by the way. XavierMace's argument is convincing. The Intel WiFi cards are quite common so it's unlikely to be a driver problem. I think there will be a new non-beta BIOS released soon and I expect it will fix it. We'll see.
I sure hope so. I haven't heard back on my ticket with ASrock yet. Using a USB wifi adapter until we have an update.
Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 4:34am
" rel="nofollow - What's the status of this issue? I've called ASRock (no answer, i left a message), and I submitted this issue to them online, and I haven't heard anything from them. The only thing I see is this thread.
I have the same problem as everyone else in this thread. BSOD with the AB350 gaming itx/ac with a ryzen 5 2400g, likely caused by the wifi. I've tried bios v4.43 updates, wifi driver updates, memory testing, prime95 testing, everything. I even bought a brand new board, hoping that the replacement board would not have this problem. Well, it is a problem.
Do they even acknowledge they have a problem here?! This is really frustrating...
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 11:37am
They're unlikely to acknowledge it here. This is a user forum.
There is a simple work-round to get you up and running: use the cabled Ethernet. It works so much better than WiFi ever will.
Posted By: superneo
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 5:26pm
new Bios 4.50 out now and the system is still crashing while using Wifi...
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 11:03pm
Damn I bought this mobo for a friendd of mine. Fist not pre assembled PC and things are not goin so well as I can see. I think I might return this mobo.
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 11:22pm
Posted By: superneo
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 11:32pm
" rel="nofollow - Already done, does the wifi works for you with the 2400g without freezes?
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 11:36pm
Dunno, doubt it from reading posts here.never used wifi do not envisage ever needing to...I use cable, and anything at a distnce I use mains power data points. I accept some have to use wifi though and its a real issue for them.
Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 12:56am
Updating the onboard wifi drivers seems to help, but the problem is still there. I am still unable to backup my files on google drive or play a map on PUBG without getting a BSOD. But before I updated from BIOS 4.4 to v4.43 and before the wifi drivers, I could barely surf the internet.
Use the latest drivers directly from intel, not the outdated ones on the ASRock's motherboard download support site:
Posted By: superneo
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:44am
the intel dual band 3168 seems to be buggy, iam going to buy an intel 7265 wifi module which is installed in the X370 board.
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:45am
ajnosek wrote:
Updating the onboard wifi drivers seems to help, but the problem is still there. I am still unable to backup my files on google drive or play a map on PUBG without getting a BSOD. But before I updated from BIOS 4.4 to v4.43 and before the wifi drivers, I could barely surf the internet.
Use the latest drivers directly from intel, not the outdated ones on the ASRock's motherboard download support site:
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 6:50am
stree wrote:
ajnosek wrote:
Updating the onboard wifi drivers seems to help, but the problem is still there.? I am still unable to backup my files on google drive or play a map on PUBG without getting a BSOD.? But before I updated from BIOS 4.4 to v4.43 and before the wifi drivers, I could barely surf the internet.??
Use the latest drivers directly from intel, not the outdated ones on the ASRock's motherboard download support site:
BIOS 4.50 now available for AB350 ITX,? some reports of no improvement with WiFi but best to be up to date with these BIOS increments
What I was able to notice tonight was that wifi was still unstable and buggy, but did not get me to a bsod. 4.50 bios and latest intel drivers. However after having installed all in one drivers, the system kept telling me that I had no Radeon video driver installed. How weird. Sorry for the partial OT. I really do hope these guys will fix everything before the 30 days that amazon gives us to return an item, LoooL.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 6:54am
You need to install the AMD chipset drivers first and then the Radeon driver. Get both from AMD, not ASRock.
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 7:14am
Thanks dude, I was just about to do this :) I realized this a couple of seconds after posting xD
Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 9:43pm
Can not detect an error...
------------- Kind Regards, JZ
https://shop.JZelectronic.de - Der Shop mit ausgesuchter ASRock Profi Hardware
https://www.facebook.com/asrock.de
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 9:51pm
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J Z wrote:
<span id="result_" ="short_text" lang="en"><span ="">Can not detect an error...</span></span>
Since we are no German speakers, can you kindly explain us what you did to achieve stability?
EDIT: are you suggesting to replace the wifi module? Is it really possible? My board has 2 days of life....it should work out of the box without needing this kind of workarounds :( ...is there any chance that asrock is aware of this issue?
Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 10:25pm
New board, P4.50 BIOS updated and nothing else.In the video you can see the drivers and with me no problem can be seen. ASRock TW is informed.
------------- Kind Regards, JZ
https://shop.JZelectronic.de - Der Shop mit ausgesuchter ASRock Profi Hardware
https://www.facebook.com/asrock.de
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 10:45pm
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J Z wrote:
<span id="result_" ="" lang="en"><span>New board, P4.50 BIOS updated and nothing else.</span> <span ="">In the video you can see the drivers and with me no problem can be seen.</span> <span ="">ASRock TW is informed.</span></span>
Ok, I will try to revert to the exact same version of the drivers that you are using to see if anything changes.
The connection yesterday was working fine, it just hangs and disconnects after sometime, now.
Should I consider switching from W10 home premium to W10 pro, as you are not experiencing issues with it?
Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 11:17pm
No, should only be Home 1709 Update 16299.251
------------- Kind Regards, JZ
https://shop.JZelectronic.de - Der Shop mit ausgesuchter ASRock Profi Hardware
https://www.facebook.com/asrock.de
Posted By: MC.
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 12:32am
" rel="nofollow - can other people confirm this?
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 12:44am
Posted By: MC.
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 12:54am
that the wifi is stable with new bios.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 1:16am
MC. wrote:
that the wifi is stable with new bios.
No. I can't confirm that. It seems it might be slightly better for some people and there's one report of stability with one particular Windows version used with one particular driver version but in general people are still unhappy with it.
Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 3:32am
J Z wrote:
New board, P4.50 BIOS updated and nothing else.In the video you can see the drivers and with me no problem can be seen. ASRock TW is informed.
For me, the new bios help but the problem is still there. I can usually get away with watching a little youtube also.
Try something that will stress data transfers over wifi, like downloading large files for a few hours. If that doesn't work, I would try going back to 4.4 to see if you can recreate the problem then. Many of us still have the problem in 4.5.
I have two boards that I bought from newegg.com that both have the issue. I haven't returned either of them yet. If ASRock truly cannot recreate the problem and is willing to reimburse me for the purchase and pay for shipping, I can send you my one of mine.
Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 3:39am
" rel="nofollow - Does everyone that have the wifi problem buy their motherboard with BIOS v4.4+ already pre-installed? Is it possible that the factory / distributors did not properly install the bridge bios first, which is causing the issue?
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 4:14am
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ajnosek wrote:
[URL=][/URL]Does everyone that have the wifi problem buy their motherboard with BIOS v4.4+ already pre-installed?? Is it possible that the factory / distributors did not properly install the bridge bios first, which is causing the issue?
Another option reported in a German forum (linked by our friend some posts upward) might be swapping the wifi module with another intel compatible model.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 6:17am
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ajnosek wrote:
Is it possible that the factory / distributors did not properly install the bridge bios first, which is causing the issue?
No. Until the bridge BIOS has been installed you don't have the option of installing 4.40 or later even if they are present on your USB stick.
I'll be updating once I get home; will post after I do it!
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Posted By: hearthlizard
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 8:57am
I updated from 4.4.3 beta (which was working, albiet with wifi disabled) to 4.5.1 beta, and.... now it wont even let me get back to the bios, just fans go on and then cuts out over and over again, no power to the keyboard and no screen signal.
I have an AB350 ITX board with the Ryzen 2400G APU.
Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 11:03am
I updated the bios to 4.51 from 4.50. I'm still getting weird hiccups when watching videos. The video still freezes up sometimes, and the screen turns either a green color or a blocky white color. However, none of them have caused a BSOD yet. Overall, it is much, much better.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 11:06am
hearthlizard wrote:
I updated from 4.4.3 beta (which was working, albiet with wifi disabled) to 4.5.1 beta, and.... now it wont even let me get back to the bios, just fans go on and then cuts out over and over again, no power to the keyboard and no screen signal.
I have an AB350 ITX board with the Ryzen 2400G APU.
Try this:
The first thing I would do is turn off the power and unplug from the wall socket. Then I'd hold the power button in for a few seconds to discharge the capacitors. Then I'd use the Clear CMOS link to reset the defaults, replacing it afterwards. Your board has only two RAM sockets so just fit one DIMM in the A slot. Unplug any peripherals except monitor and keyboard. Then plug it back in and see if it will POST.
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 11:32am
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ajnosek wrote:
I updated the bios to 4.51 from 4.50. I'm still getting weird hiccups when watching videos. The video still freezes up sometimes, and the screen turns either a green color or a blocky white color. However, none of them have caused a BSOD yet. Overall, it is much, much better.
Did you install the Radeon driver after the AMD chipset driver? Get both from AMD, rather than ASRock.
Posted By: hearthlizard
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 12:11pm
JohnM wrote:
Try this:
The first thing I would do is turn off the power and unplug from the wall socket. Then I'd hold the power button in for a few seconds to discharge the capacitors. Then I'd use the Clear CMOS link to reset the defaults, replacing it afterwards. Your board has only two RAM sockets so just fit one DIMM in the A slot. Unplug any peripherals except monitor and keyboard. Then plug it back in and see if it will POST.
Thanks, I tried it. Given that it went from working (mostly w/o wifi) to not even powering anything beyond the fans after the bios update; I suspect the update killed it. I also tried putting in AMD's bootkit processor they sent me, nothing.... when I took the old one out it was cool, so no power, board is dead.
Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 2:17pm
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JohnM wrote:
Did you install the Radeon driver after the AMD chipset driver? Get both from AMD, rather than ASRock.
I was trying to, but honestly I was getting confused by their installation files.
The file from the chipset driver's page is called: amd-chipset-drivers_18.10_feb.exe
The file from the video driver's page is called: rv-win10-64bit-whql-radeon-software-17.40.3701-feb12.exe
There appears to be numerous drivers in both installation packages, and many of them overlap but not all of them. If I install the chipset drivers first (v18.10), and then I try to install the video drivers (v17.40), I get an error saying the later version is already installed. I don't understand this...I didn't install the video package yet, and I believe there are drivers in there that aren't installed yet.
Then, to complicate the matter, there is a different installation package called: radeon-software-adrenalin-18.2.3-minimalsetup-180222_web.exe
I figure that I might be able to use this somehow to get around this issue, but that isn't exactly clear either.
What I think I ended up doing was uninstalling all them, and putting 17.4 in first, and then putting 18.10 in on top of that. But I suppose this is installing the video drivers before the chipset drivers?
What did you do, and how did you get around this issue?
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 5:51pm
Chipset drivers should always be first.
Once those are installed, order is not that critical. This is because the chipset drivers facilitate the correct identification of components and help prevent conflicts.
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Posted By: hifihedgehog
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 12:08am
" rel="nofollow - What outstanding issues (e.g. video, Wi-Fi, etc.), if any, remain with L4.51?
Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 12:13am
I compiled a list of bugs in the latest realease in a post
Posted By: rluhman
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 9:48pm
Well yesterday I upgraded to the P4.51 beta bios from P4.40. It solved the Sleep mode problem that I was having. However, it still does not fix the random BSOD (DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION) that I get which appears related to the Intel Wireless device.
Note, I am not using the wireless AC card that came with the board. I upgraded it to the 7265 device that is used in the X370 version of this motherboard.
I am using wireless because it is rather difficult to get a wire to this location in the house.
Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2018 at 2:19am
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rluhman wrote:
Note, I am not using the wireless AC card that came with the board. I upgraded it to the 7265 device that is used in the X370 version of this motherboard.
I am using wireless because it is rather difficult to get a wire to this location in the house.
Just to be clear, you are not using the onboard wifi, you are using a dedicated wifi adapter, correct? Why not just use the onboard wifi?
I don't know if the recent ab350 itx/ac motherboard wifi issue was a problem for ALL wifi devices, or just the onboard wifi. It's possible that ASRock didn't anticipate people using other wifi devices when they came out with the wifi fix in 4.51.
Or it could be that there is some kind of conflict between the two cards. I would try using the onboard wifi and the dedicated wifi independently. Try disabling the onboard wifi and only using the dedicated card. Verify the onboard wifi works without the wifi card installed. This would at least give you some more information.
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2018 at 4:56am
From what I can tell, the beta BIOS is a fix, a workaround to a problem likely coming from the AGESA code. In cases where there is a fix, it is quite common for it to be specific to the bundled hardware. It may well be that the fix does not work with the adapter you installed or, if you have both adapters installed, it is they are conflicting as ajnosek suggested.
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Posted By: rluhman
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2018 at 11:03am
To be clear, I removed the wifi m.2 card that came with the motherboard. I then replaced it with the 7265 m.2 card.
Based on the other reply, I will put the original card back in and see if the BSOD's go away.
Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2018 at 6:19pm
did u try latest "greatest" intel drivers? also do a full install before dpc_watchdog can happen from old (unsupported) drivers make sure all your drivers are up to date and try to avoid amd drivers for sata
otherwise ull need some dump file, and since u dont have issues with applications but with hardware, than u will need to change something
change your system memory dump to kernel, run cmd.exe as an admin then run verifier.exe /standard /all reboot, run until you get the next bugcheck then copy the memory dump file c:\windows\memory.dmp to a server like microsoft one drive and post a link. how to change the memory dump type: https://www.sophos.com/en-us/support/knowledgebase/111474.aspx" rel="nofollow - https://www.sophos.com/en-us/support/knowledgebase/111474.aspx
when you are done testing run verifier.exe /reset to turn off the extra error checking or your machine will run slowly until you do.
Posted By: rluhman
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 8:44am
" rel="nofollow - [URL=][/URL]I put the original WiFi M.2 card back on the motherboard and no more BSOD's. So the L4.51A fix works at least for the WiFi card that comes with the motherboard.
Has anyone been able to get it to work with any other WiFi card?
I was hoping for a 2x2 WiFi card but I guess I'll have to settle for 1x1.