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Topic: My experience with AB350 Gaming-ITX and 2200G
Posted By: BunnyDragon
Subject: My experience with AB350 Gaming-ITX and 2200G
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 12:05am
Hey guys, just thought I'd share my experiences here since it seems a lot of us are having issues getting everything to work properly.  I know I've run into more black/blue screens of death in the last week than I ever have in my life, and I imagine others are frustrated, too.

What I've learned:

2200G and current bios are very particular with the RAM you use.  Right now, I have a Patriot series 3400mhz 16gb kit that are stable and working at 3333mhz.  These are samsung sticks, and if you have the money, I would recommend them.

There are so many drivers for so many things, narrowing down issues is like someone throwing a handful of pennies at you, and leaving it up to you to figure out which penny it was that cracked your front tooth.  Very difficult!

Wireless card does NOT work properly with the current drivers and bios.  If you're getting BSODS and you are running wifi, plug in and disable WAN in bios for now.  The drivers just aren't there yet.

iGPU voltage on monitors is still showing like 0.0001v for some reason.  I don't know why, but this may just be a bug with the monitors at the moment. 

I'm assuming all of us eventually want to overclock our system.  For me, at least, I cannot use bios and Ryzen Master together.  When I try to use XMP enabled ram speeds with Ryzen Master, I end up crashing almost every time.  So, I tried disabling all bios settings and used Ryzen Master alone.  I was able to get the iGPU to 1300mhz, RAM to around 2800, but it still wasn't stable.  I am now using strictly bios, running XMP at 3.7ghz, 333mhz RAM, and 1300mhz iGPU.

I ran Aida64 for 7 hours last night with no crashing.  This is the most success I've had to so far!  For some reason, I cannot get my iGPU above 1300, though, and this upsets me.  I'm not sure if it is bios or drivers, but whatever the issue, it will constantly crash on me.  If anyone has a solution for this, I'm all ears!

Also, if anyone has a link or data for the hexcodes ASrock AB350 bios uses for voltages, I would LOVE to have them.  It took me a while to figure out a value that works for the GPU voltage, but right now 1300/38 is stable for me @1300mhz.



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Posted By: superneo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 12:23am
" rel="nofollow - Hi, 
i cant really help you, but i have a question. How is it possible to overclock the GPU in the Bios? I didnt found any GPU Speed options.

I was just able to overclock with Ryzen Master Software. My GPU runs with stock Voltages stable at 1550Mhz.


Posted By: BunnyDragon
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 12:30am
I can't remember the exact navigation and I don't have the 'puter in front of me, but try going into ADVANCED and either AMD CBS or the other AMD one.  Look through the menus to find a XMP 2.0 folder towards the lower part of the screen.  Once you get into the XMP 2.0, goto ADVANCED folder and you'll find the MHZ and Voltage there.  Beware, it only registers hex codes for the voltage, so be careful with the values you put here.  First time I did it, I kept the voltage at 0 thinking it would default to auto and it caused my system to not post.


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 12:39am
Well stated, BunnyDragon. Thanks.  I suspect that a new BIOS/UEFI is going to be required to get this all going.  I also suspect the Wi-Fi problem is a UEFI problem not an Intel or driver problem.  The only suggestion I have is to BE SURE to DL your AMD drivers (Chip Set, Video) from here: https://support.amd.com/en-us/download" rel="nofollow - https://support.amd.com/en-us/download
In general, please avoid ASRock drivers with some exceptions (eg. RAID).  Enjoy, John.


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Posted By: superneo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 1:17am
Originally posted by BunnyDragon BunnyDragon wrote:

It took me a while to figure out a value that works for the GPU voltage, but right now 1300/38 is stable for me @1300mhz.

Thank you for your help. I found the Bios option to set the GPU Speed. The default VID Value should be 48, cause the default SOC VID is 48. SOC and GPU Voltage is default 1.1 Volt, so both Values should be the same. My GPU is now running with Bios settings 1550/48.


Posted By: BunnyDragon
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 2:28am
Good to hear!  I plan on messing with this a bit more to see if I can push that 1300 further.  I will double check my numbers as well.  Some others have reported bringing up the voltage of SOC to 1.2 and gpu to 1.3 for a higher mhz clock, but if it's running at 1550 at 1.1, that's good to hear!


Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 2:43am
You don't say which UEFI BIOS you're using, other than "current". The P4.40 is badly broken. The beta L4.43 is much more usable. The only issues I've had with it are the known WiFi problem (I use cabled Ethernet anyway) and the PWM fan control (limited range even after calibrating). The only BSODs I've had with L4.43 have been when I tested the WiFi and due to buggy apps, such as GPU-Z (now fixed in version 2.8.0).

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ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110


Posted By: BunnyDragon
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 3:31am
" rel="nofollow - Ahh, yeah.  4.40 was totally busted for me.  I'm on 4.43.  Are you running any OCing on your system, and if so, is it through bios or another program?  Did you have issues using XMP enabled for ram in bios in addition to ryzen master, for example?  I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with that and possible fixes.


Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 3:44am
Originally posted by BunnyDragon BunnyDragon wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Ahh, yeah.  4.40 was totally busted for me.  I'm on 4.43.  Are you running any OCing on your system, and if so, is it through bios or another program?  Did you have issues using XMP enabled for ram in bios in addition to ryzen master, for example?  I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with that and possible fixes.

Ryzen Master and BIOS overclocking are incompatible. You have to set the BIOS to defaults in order to use Ryzen Master. It may be convenient to do that and when you're happy copy the Ryzen Master settings (which don't survive a reboot) into the BIOS in order to fix them.

I'm not overclocking my processor at all. I'm overclocking my RAM to the optimum 2993 for the 2400G. All I had to do was choose 2993 instead of 2666 as the XMP profile and it's stable - no need to tweak voltage.


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ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110


Posted By: BunnyDragon
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 7:33am
" rel="nofollow - Ahh thanks for that.  I think I will stick with the BIOS for now as it seems to be working more reliably.  My next step is to try and push the igpu above 1300mhz as most seem to be getting a much higher boost.  If it still continues to crash when above 1300mhz, do you have any thoughts of what may be happening?  Cooling is more than sufficient, so it must be either voltage(although stock voltage should net at least 1400mhz) or drivers issue.  The only other thing I can think of is that I am not certain whether or not my clean Windows install was 1609 or 1607.  However, I do have a 1609 boost disk ready to go should that be the problem.  


Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 8:03am
Well, you're already overclocking the memory controller and the rest of the "uncore" by running your RAM faster than 2933 so maybe a little more SoC voltage would help. The Radeon driver is known to be buggy (acknowledged in the release notes) so keep a look out for an update - hopefully from Crimson Re-Live to Adrenalin. I'm sure there will be a new BIOS along soon too. Agreed on the erroneous iGPU voltage reading, btw.

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ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110


Posted By: MikeBE
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 4:25am
Thanks, all, for the tip on the Beta BIOS 4.43.

It made a huge difference.

Under the official 4.40 BIOS, none of my vanilla drives were recognized, and performance for the Ryzen 5 2400G was abysmal. After updating the BIOS to 4.43, I saw a dramatic improvement.

Plus, it now recognizes all of my hard drives: SSD + Seagate 500GB drive.

I'll post the actual results in a bit.


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Posted By: MikeBE
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 5:29am
Here are the results from Performance Test 9.0:

Ryzen 5 2400G, 8GB RAM DDR4 2666, 120GB SSD Windows 10.1 64-bit

BIOS 4.40

BIOS 4.43 BETA


The biggest change, as you can see, is in the 2D and 3D graphics score. While still far below a dedicated graphics card, the performance is improved measurably.

In real world use, my daughter can now game on this machine - with some of the graphics effects turned down.


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Posted By: devoker
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 6:21pm
" rel="nofollow - I am able to boost iGPU up to about 1,600 stable. I have been trying to push it to 1,700.
I am Ryzen Master for the iGPU and the BIOS for the CPU and RAM.
How are you OC'ing your iGPU in your BIOS? I cannot find the setting.


Posted By: BunnyDragon
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 12:29am
" rel="nofollow - How are you able to use Ryzen Master and Bios OC at the same time?  I kept getting errors.

1600 stable is really good -- after some real world testing in games, I had to reduce my iGPU to 1525mhz.  I'm not sure what I am doing wrong or how I can improve this at the moment, but it might have to do with the voltage being too low for the gpu.  What RAM do you have?  I have a set of 16gb patriot 3400mhz that seems to be running stable at around 3333.  I've tried OCing it, but even just a little bit above will cause my computer to crash after a while of heavy use.

Any other tips for getting up to 1600+?  I'm not sure how beneficial it is to get that high, but if it is, I'd love to get more out of this chip.

You can OC the GPU in Advanced>AMD CBS>XMP 2.0>ADVANCED

Beware, the voltage settings are in hex or some other code and not simply volt/millivolt parameters.  


Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 12:58am
Bad experience at the moment. I purchased this board for a friend of mine who has only got a WiFi connection and the wifi bsod is totally invalidating for him. I have 30 days to return the board and get a new one from another manufacturer, if this issue won't be fixed.

But I really do hope that they'll fix it soon because everybody pointed me to ASRock am4 mobo as they seem to be the best.


Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:03am
" rel="nofollow - How much power is the iGPU using at 1600 MHz? Use something like HWiNFO64 - the sensors mostly work, though version 5.72-3333 doesn't distinguish between the SoC and the GPU so they get lumped together. And how are you getting rid of the heat?

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Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 8:21am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by BunnyDragon BunnyDragon wrote:

You can OC the GPU in Advanced>AMD CBS>XMP 2.0>ADVANCED

I'm trying to OC my GPU as well, but I don't see "XMP 2.0" under "AMD CBS".  Are you using the latest bios on the AB350 Gaming ITX/AC motherboard?  


Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 9:02am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by ajnosek ajnosek wrote:

Are you using the latest bios on the AB350 Gaming ITX/AC motherboard?  

If you put your system details in your sig then everyone would know which version you're using.


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ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110


Posted By: ajnosek
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 12:52am
Done

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ASRock AB350 Gaming ITX/AC L4.51a, Ryzen 5 2400g 3.6GHz, 2x8GB Patriot Viper 4 3200MHz (PV416G320C6K), Win10 Education, 1TB SSD Samsung 850 EVO, 3TB HDD WD Blue, EVGA 500W (100-W1-0500-KR)



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