2200G support on Fatal1ty Gaming X
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Topic: 2200G support on Fatal1ty Gaming X
Posted By: brPariah
Subject: 2200G support on Fatal1ty Gaming X
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 10:31pm
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Hello, I've recently acquired a whole new PC and I've decided to migrate to the AM4 platform. I've been using this PC for quite a long time and it is very stable for as long as I do not overclock it. I don't really get any blue screen or anything. However, I noticed there's a lack of support for the new Ryzen 2000s processors for my Fatal1ty motherboard. There is no way for me to overclock my iGPU throught the bios, I've looked all over the CBS settings and there's nothing regarding the integrated GPU. There's a bug in the Ryzen master application that does not let me overclock both the CPU and iGPU at the same time. I can only overclock one at a time. If I overclock the GPU, the CPU downclocks to @ 3.7 MhZ; on the otherhand, if I overclock the CPU, the GPU downclocks to 1.100 MHz. By default, the iGPU has a locked set frequency of 200 MHz when I boot up Windows, it remains the same even under stress, which is too low and not its standard frequency. I have to "overclock" it in order to enable its standanrd frequency of 1.100 Mhz otherwise the iGPU would stay downclocked even under heavy load. The voltage by default was too high, I don't exactly remember how much, but I believe it was set to 1.4 V. THIS IS MY CONFIG: https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20X/index.asp" rel="nofollow - Fatal1ty X370 Gaming X (BIOS 4.50), RYZEN 2200G, Radeon Software 17.7, Crucial Sports 4 GB @ 2933 single channel. UPDATE: I WAS ABLE TO SOLVE THE LOCKED iGPU frequency by updating the bios to the beta version (4.53 for the Fatal1ty Gaming X). Now it is boosting accordingly. I'm not able to overclock the iGPU past 1300 MHz in the Ryzen Master Application which is extremely disappointing given that I have a mid range MB. Even at 1200 MHz it is unstable and crashes the system. I can't change the SOC V in the Ryzen Master Application because it requires a restart and the system won't post. Even after updating the bios to 4.53, I still can't find the settings to overclock the iGPU in the bios. https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20X/index.asp" rel="nofollow - |
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Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 11:33pm
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Assuming you've loaded the BIOS defaults the clocks of both the cores and the iGPU scale dynamically, depending on load, as do the voltages. While idle they consume relatively little power. If you put a heavy load on the CPU cores and the iGPU at the same time you will get less than maximum performance from both in order to keep the overall power usage somewhere close to the TDP. So, for example, the iGPU will only reach its maximum clock frequency if the CPU cores are lightly loaded. If you take manual control of the clocks and voltages you can push both outside of this envelope but you will have to deal with the extra heat produced. The controls you need are all there in the BIOS but some are somewhat hidden among the pages and pages under the Advanced heading. Ryzen Master does work but you have to set the BIOS overclocking options to their default settings first. Your best and easiest way to get better performance out of your set-up would be to add a second RAM DIMM and run in dual channel mode. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 11:41pm
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We don't have the same motherboard, but you might find better functionality from updating your BIOS to the beta version 4.53. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: devoker
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:03am
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Can confirm that I am having this same issue. The iGPU caps at 1100 Mhz when attempting to overclock via Ryzen Master and I could only find settings in the BIOS to delegate 2G of memory to the iGPU. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:17am
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Which BIOS? I have a different motherboard but when I changed to the beta BIOS I found that the 2 GB limit had been removed. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
devoker wrote:Posted By: brPariah
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:26am
Regarding the iGPU frequency, it is LOCKED at 200 MHz. I inspected its performance with HWmonitor and even under stress the GPU frequency remains the same; if I play a game, no matter how demanding it is, the iGPU frequency will constantly be at 200 Mhz and I can even notice it by the performance (FPS). The only way for me to increase it is by manually setting it to 1100 Mhz in the Ryzen Master Application and the performance immediately improves in games (twice as much in fact), otherwise, it will stay at 200 MHz. Also, I disabled turbo boost and set a fixed CPU voltage (1.25V) and CPU frequency at 3.8 MHz. So, even when idling, my CPU runs at 3.8 MHz as is confirmed by HWmonitor. It doesn't get past 65 C under heavy loads. If my system were not very stable under stock settings, I'd definitely heed your advice and flash the bios to the beta 4.53 version. |
Posted By: devoker
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:26am
| AMD Fatal1ty AB350 Mini-ITX on 4.40. |
Posted By: devoker
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:51am
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I just updated to the beta 4.43 and the CPU temperature problem fixed. In 4.40, I was also able to OC the CPU via the BIOS and OC the iGPU via Ryzen Master. I had to do the same thing for 4.43 because I still could not find how to OC the iGPU via the BIOS. I would note that the 2G cap for memory delegation to the iGPU is now raised to 16 GB. |
Posted By: brPariah
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:00pm
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I've updated the bios to the beta version and it solved the locked iGPU frequency. Now it is boosting accordingly up to 1100 MHz. Nonetheless, I'm unable to overclock the iGPU frequency past 1300 MHz. Even at 1200 MHz the system gets unstable. Anything over 1300 will immediately lock up my system. Also, I can't really change the SOC Voltage because it requires the system to restart and then the motherboard won't post (it gives two beeps) and the debug shows F7. I still can't find anywhere for me to overclock the iGPU in the bios even with the beta version. I'll be absolutely disappointed with Asrock if I can't at least get the iGPU frequency to 1600 MHz, especially because I bought a mid range motherboard (Fatal1ty Gaming X) hoping for it to last for a future upgrade. If the support for the 2200 doesn't improve I'll return this product and buy a biostar racing gt7 instead. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 9:28pm
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There are no guarantees when it comes to overclocking. I don't think your expectations are realistic. How are you cooling the processor? I think it was the fact that the BIOS defaults were reset that unstuck it from the fixed 200 MHz. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: brPariah
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 10:26pm
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It is not unrealistic at all, it is actually extremely common for those chips to reach those frequencies. I'm not even talking about a high overlock. For my system to immediately lock up if I set the iGPU frequency to anything above 1325 MHz means there's an issue and I doubt it is my processor. Meanwhile, the CPU frequency is stable at 3.9 MHz which is what is expected from it, not exceptional or anything. As is, the bios doesn't support it fully because I can't find anywhere for me to overclock it in the bios and relying in the Ryzen Master Application can only lead to instability. Also, do have in mind that my motherboard costs about 150 dollars so I actually expect my hardware to overclock decently. Regarding temps, under load the CPU hardly goes past 62 C, it sometimes peaks at 69 C. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 12:00am
Good luck  ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: BunnyDragon
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2018 at 12:45am
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" rel="nofollow - Ryzen Master hasn't been friendly for me in OCing. I don't have your board, but I have the AB350 Gaming-ITX, so I imagine the bios is somewhat similar. 3.9mhz is exceptional for an overclock, what do you mean? In my bios, the gpu mhz/voltage is in AMD CBS>XMP 2.0>ADVANCED -- I'd try using bios rather than Ryzen Master and see what you can get. I'm pretty happy at 3750mhz cpu, 1525 gpu, 3400 ram.
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