NEW AM4 BIOSes as of March 6 2018
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Topic: NEW AM4 BIOSes as of March 6 2018
Posted By: wardog
Subject: NEW AM4 BIOSes as of March 6 2018
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 12:55am
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Hello,Replies:
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:42am
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Fatal1ty X370 gaming ITX seems a lot perkier with BIOS 4.50 so far. ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 6:58am
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I just upgraded the system to the new P4.60 BIOS, again the transfer rates are far below normal, almost 5000MB less than in version 4.40 of the Taichi X370 BIOS. The latencies are also slightly higher, appreciably higher .. Is there any explanation? " rel="nofollow - ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 7:13am
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I can confirm that now cpu temp in bios is shown correctly. MOBO: AB350 gaming Mini itx BIOS: from 4.40 to 4.50 Wifi issues still present. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 8:07am
Transfer rates and latencies of what? Can you please give more detail about what you are doing and how you are measuring these differences. Your use of the word "again" suggests there is an ongoing discussion about this - can you provide a link to it, please? ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: Gronar
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 10:06am
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 11:13am
Without knowing just which motherboard you are referring to, I cannot answer. |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 11:18am
Please create and update a Sig here. http://forum.asrock.com/register.asp?FPN=2 |
Posted By: Gronar
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 11:23am
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I think I got that. Note I don't have this system up and running yet, I just have the motherboard and APU and have been researching for the build. Motherboard was bought a week ago from Newegg and has the AMD Ryzen Desktop 2000 Ready sticker on it. ------------- X570 Taichi, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sabrent Rocket 4 1TB, Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200, Seasonic GX-1000, EVGA RTX 2080S XC Ultra |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 12:15pm
In that case the short answer is "no". The longer answer is that the bridge BIOS was needed to prepare your board to take the BIOS that supports the 2000 series processors. Therefore, since it has that sticker it is already past the point of needing the bridge. Just update from 4.50 to 4.70. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: Gronar
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 12:19pm
Thanks JohnM. Will be a couple of weeks before I get all the parts for the build and this forum has been a godsend with information. I've been building AMD rigs for a long time but this is the first new build in 7 years. ------------- X570 Taichi, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sabrent Rocket 4 1TB, Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200, Seasonic GX-1000, EVGA RTX 2080S XC Ultra |
Posted By: redopracer
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:02pm
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Updayed to p4.7 from 4.6 on a fatal1ty b350 gaming k4 experiencing bus clock instability pf 4 to 5 mhz and game instability. Think this bios might have a problem. ------------- fatality ab350 k4 1600x 4.1ghz 1.4vcore 2666mghz 2x8 gskillz ram at 3333mghz gtx1060 6gb |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:09pm
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Meh. Does it have this +/- instability while running at stock values? You DO have quite the OC/voltages with that OC. (1600x 4.1ghz 1.4vcore 2666mghz 2x8 gskillz ram at 3333mghz) |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 1:24pm
I ask that as the clock on new MB's are damn stable. I'm assuming you have Disabled all C states. 4-5 Mhz. Most programs will fluctuate this on a stable system. It's inherent of SW monitoring. What aux fan do you have keeping the VRMs cool? Again I ask as I also assume you are water cooling at the voltage req'd to hit that OC. . |
Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 7:02pm
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" rel="nofollow - Is there any hope to get a bios update before march 28? If the wifi bsods won't be solved until that date I'll have to return the board and get one from MSI -.-" |
Posted By: donalgodon
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2018 at 11:28pm
Is the new update compatible with first generation Ryzen? What BIOS version is recommended for first generation Ryzen CPUs?
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Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 1:09am
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Yes, it is. The latest version is always the recommended version unless you happen to experience problems with it. However, there have been a lot of updates recently and they've really been about adding support for 2000-series processors so if you are not experiencing any particular problems with your current BIOS you may not feel the need to update. ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: donalgodon
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 4:54am
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" rel="nofollow - Which BIOS is recommended for the 1st Generation Ryzen on the AsRock AB350M Pro4?
Should 1st Generation Ryzen users upgrade to these latest BIOS or should we stick with the Bridge BIOS (3.40 in my case)
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 5:39am
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stick to whats stable ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: MrMoon
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 6:54am
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MoBo: AB350 gaming Mini itx BIOS: from 4.40 to 4.50Now MoBo is useless and need to RMA... DO NOT FLASH if your build is working.
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Posted By: cubebucket
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 7:06am
Flashed this yesterday and the system is working fine apart from the wifi issue. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 8:01am
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I have the same motherboard and updated to 4.50 without a problem. What is wrong with yours? Just saying that it's useless doesn't help. Did the BIOS update complete successfully? ------------- ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 ITX P4.90, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, 2x8GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2A2666C16, 250GB Samsung 960EVO, 500GB Samsung 850EVO, 4TB WD Blue, Windows 10 Pro 64, Corsair SF450, Cooler Master Elite 110 |
Posted By: MrMoon
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 9:17am
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Hi JohnM, I'm sorry if my "useless" sounded harsh, it really wasn't the intention. But it is really useless, in the literal meaning of the word: it doesn't post, it doesn't power the USB ports (no keyboard, no mouse, no USB speakers) it does nothing. There is power going on, as the leds of the case, AIO, the fans, the HDD, all turn on. It's just dead. And yes, it showed the "programming complete, press ok to reboot" (or something like that) when updating the UEFI. My message was more of a warning than a rant. |
Posted By: JohnM
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 9:57am
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Plenty of people come here to rant, so don't worry about that. But if you need help then you have to give some information, which is what I meant in my reply. The fact that you got the message saying that the upgrade was a success is a good sign. The first thing I would do is turn off the power and unplug from the wall socket. Then I'd hold the power button in for a few seconds to discharge the capacitors. Then I'd use the Clear CMOS link to reset the defaults, replacing it afterwards. Your board has only two RAM sockets so just fit one DIMM in the A slot. Unplug any peripherals except monitor and keyboard. Then plug it back in and see if it will POST. The thing is, many people have performed the update successfully so your "warning" is not only unnecessary but it's incorrect. Hopefully we'll get you up and running again. Edited: Slightly more specific instructions re. DIMM slot.
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Posted By: DunGoneNuts
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 10:27am
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" rel="nofollow - Taichi X370. Had L4.41 and down-flashed to P3.30 as there were no instructions as to whether to UN-flash (is that a word?) from the BETA BIOS. Well BIOS CPU temps are still reading 62*C at idle so this did nothing for me as far as this issue is concerned. On a "cheekier" note....Love that English......I did get my 1800X clocked to 4.0Ghz with no problems and did get my G Skill 3600 to boot at 3200 using the XMP and both times loaded Windows fine with no upticks in voltages or timing adjustments. No stress test yet as I HATE WINDOWS 10!!!!! I saw less spyware when I worked at the NSA or was it GCHQ.....maybe both! Anyways, as this is a BIOS update thread, there are no markedly upticks that I have experienced going from L4.41 to P4.60. So I just may go back to L4.41 for now. ------------- Ryzen 9 5900X ASRock X370 Taichi G Skill F4-3200 MSI Armor 2070 MSI SPATIUM 1TB M2 WD 1TB M2 Crucial 500 SSD Corsair AX860i PSU Corsair H115Pro WB Phanteks Enthoo Pro SE |
Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 8:02pm
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Updated From 4.50 to 4.60 Ram still 2800 mhz Fixed Windows wrong information about clock-speed. now it registered correct. ------------- Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios CM MA610P Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz SamsungEvo 250 2Tb Firecuda 1Tb WDBlack Corsair RM650X |
Posted By: PetrolHead
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 9:00pm
To expand on what datonyb said, any version that is stable and provides the functionalities you need, is recommended. Even if it's an older version. If 3.40 has served you well, there's no real reason to take the risks involved with updating the BIOS. My AB350M Pro4 is running on 3.30 at the moment and I haven't had any major issues. I'm interested in finding out what the newest version brings, though. Since there are no proper release notes, the only option is to install it and see. Decisions, decisions... P.S. Remember to also keep an eye on the AMD all in 1 driver and possibly other drivers as well. It's often worth keeping these as up to date as possible. ------------- Ryzen 5 1500X, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 2x8 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3466CL16, Sapphire Pulse RX Vega56 8G HBM2, Corsair RM550x, Samsung 960 EVO SSD (NVMe) 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500 GB, Windows 10 64-bit |
Posted By: MikeBE
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 9:15pm
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I successfully flashed my AB350-ITX to P4.60 from 4.43 (beta). This has a Ryzen 5 2400G. I found that the CPU is running measurably better with this BIOS, particularly in gaming, which is how this box is being used. ------------- -Mike Elek http://photographytoday.net |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 9:28pm
Good morning, yes, RAM transfer rates. They fall a lot when upgrading to BIOS 4.41 and 4.60, testing things that discovered that this is accentuated when overclocking the CPU, with the same in stock not seen this problem in this dimension. * The discussion can be found at this link: http://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1627407-asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread-314.html There you can find more reports on other problems we are encountering Thank you for your attention, have a good day. Allí puede encontrar más informes sobre otros problemas que estamos encontrando Gracias por su atención, tenga un buen día. Update: These tests were done with BIOS 4.41, so does BIOS 4.60 and with transfer rate losses in the same ratio compared to BIOS 4.40 or 3.20 ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: PetrolHead
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 9:46pm
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" rel="nofollow - Handrox, the latency differences are more or less margin of error stuff. The benchmarked speeds can also vary from run to run depending on what the OS may or may not do in the background. Are these only samples from a larger set of test runs or did you just test once with each BIOS version? ------------- Ryzen 5 1500X, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 2x8 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3466CL16, Sapphire Pulse RX Vega56 8G HBM2, Corsair RM550x, Samsung 960 EVO SSD (NVMe) 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500 GB, Windows 10 64-bit |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 9:56pm
They are tests done after each BIOS update, when I will check if the modifications made effective, functional and stable.
The differences are not marginal, with BIOS 4.60 the rates are locked around 47500 in the read, 47500 in the write and 43500 in the data copy. (approximate numbers) Do not go beyond that, then fell from 56,000 approximate to 47,000 approximate between BIOS 4.40 and 4.60, it's a lot ... Greetings ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: PetrolHead
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 10:20pm
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Okay, so one test after each update. Every benchmark (Aida, 3DMark, Geekbench etc.) fluctuates by some amount between runs, so you should run the benchmark at least three times for each BIOS version to get some idea on how much the results differ between each run. You should also probably wait some time before running the benchmark after booting up, since there can be all sorts of stuff going on in the background even after you have access to your desktop. Also, I didn't say the differences in speeds are marginal, but they may be explained by other things than the BIOS. The latency differences on the other hand look marginal, but you won't know for sure until you do several runs with the same exact setup. For example, back when I was experimenting with RAM timings, the L3 cache results could vary quite a bit (over 20% for transfer rates and even jumps from 12.2ns to 20ns for the latency). I'm not on my personal computer right now, but I'll see if I can post some of my AIDA results later today, just to show more accurately what I mean. The results of course only apply to my system, but they might illustrate my point better. ------------- Ryzen 5 1500X, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 2x8 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3466CL16, Sapphire Pulse RX Vega56 8G HBM2, Corsair RM550x, Samsung 960 EVO SSD (NVMe) 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500 GB, Windows 10 64-bit |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 10:37pm
Yes, a lot of tests were done, even because I did not believe in what I saw, wondering why this variation down so sharply in the numbers of transfer rates. If you notice a worse performance for example when playing some games, the game that is most noticeable is the PUBG, does not change the framerate much, but if you notice gagging during the game even more when you need a zoom of the map when using a telescope sight . I spent about 2 days with this 4.60 BIOS testing things and if you notice a lower system performance than I have with 4.40, this 4.40 BIOS is phenomenal, my system is very good with it, I updated to 4.60 more out of curiosity and see if the new Agesa allowed me to reach the 3600MHz in a 100% stable way and to be able to use my RAM in its due XMP ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: PetrolHead
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 10:51pm
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Hmm. Interesting. I'll have to test that scenario on my system, since I haven't noticed any major issues in PUBG. These are the averages of five AIDA benchmark runs I've done on my current setup: Memory Read: 46849.6 MB/s Memory Write: 45354.4 MB/s Memory Copy: 40837.8 MB/s Memory Latency: 77.48 ns L1 Cache Read: 459.156 GB/s L1 Cache Write: 230.184 GB/s L1 Cache Copy: 459.12 GB/s L1 Cache Latency: 1.1 ns L2 Cache Read: 433.8 GB/s L2 Cache Write: 225.972 GB/s L2 Cache Copy: 388.276 GB/s L2 Cache Latency: 4.7 ns L3 Cache Read: 306.972 GB/s L3 Cache Write: 218.552 GB/s L3 Cache Copy: 292.34 GB/s L3 Cache Latency: 12.2 ns Just based on these numbers, I should be experiencing similar or worse performance issues. It may be that I'm just not paying attention to occasional stutters or that I've just never used the map while looking through a scope. I'll take your word for the change in performance and transfer rate numbers, but the whole thing just seems odd and it would be interesting to know what the root cause is. ------------- Ryzen 5 1500X, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 2x8 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3466CL16, Sapphire Pulse RX Vega56 8G HBM2, Corsair RM550x, Samsung 960 EVO SSD (NVMe) 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500 GB, Windows 10 64-bit |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 11:06pm
As you can follow the link I left in an earlier post, everyone who tested accused the same problem I reported, a dizzying drop in RAM transfer rates. One thing, they accentuate more when overclocking the CPU ... ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: Zwu
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 11:33pm
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i'm not impressed by this bios, ram stability seems even worse than before. with this update 3200mhz is pretty unstable on my gflaresX. plus side bios boots with 3444ish mhz but instant crashes in win i'm not content until i have my 3200mhz rated rams at their designed speed ------------- 
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2018 at 11:46pm
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Posted By: wino
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 12:09am
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where did you find 4.60 for this mobo? ------------- AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac 10.31 BIOS | Ryzen 5 5600 | G.Skill Flare X 2x8GB @ 3466 14-14-14-28 | Zotac GTX 1050 Ti | Kingston KC3000 1 TB M.2 | SilentiumPC Supremo M2 Gold 550W V2 | Plywood case 24x22x21 cm |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 1:49am
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" rel="nofollow - Where is this BIOS 4.60???? ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 2:36am
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@Handrox, reading on the forum link you've given to us. It seems your the only one who is complaining the latest BIOS. They response your post but they didn't complain it to their system. ------------- Ryzen 5 1600 3.80ghz @1.3375v Asrock X370 Gaming X 5.20 Bios CM MA610P Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz SamsungEvo 250 2Tb Firecuda 1Tb WDBlack Corsair RM650X |
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 3:40am
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" rel="nofollow - Looks like all the new BIOS/UEFI files are here: http://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS stree, and looks like 4.50 not 4.60. Enjoy, John. ------------- Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 3:47am
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Thanks John. I thought I was slipping a gear.... ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: Jm62383
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 4:17am
| Upgraded from 3.0 to 3.4 to 4.7 on my AB350 K4 Gaming today. Probably being way to over cautious but I did a full 15 min power dc'd/battery out/jumpered bios clear between each bios flash and everything came out great...I wasnt having any issues before I flashed but I did it anyway. Tridentz 3600 still capped at 3466 :-( |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 4:23am
no, there are others with the same problem. There are postings before mine that have already reported this problem and later also, there were those who posted improvements in transfer rates and latency, but with cpu in stock, with overclocking the problem appears. ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 4:33am
I have a pair (2x8GB) of Trident Z 3600MHz CL16 and also use at 3466MHz, I can not stabilize 100% at 3600MHz, let's say it's stable about 90%, giving random crashes on everything in games. Ja 3466MHz CL14 is 100% stable and I am using it for months ...  ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: Jm62383
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 5:08am
| I have the CL 15 kit..Havent really tried lowering it to 14, but using the stock 15-15-15-35 timings im 100% stable. |
Posted By: PetrolHead
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 5:12am
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Maybe it's some sort of a stability issue then. In any case, I had a chance to check my numbers and on my system (at its current settings) the benchmark results were actually very stable. Five benchmark runs and memory read was always 46xxx, memory write 45xxx, and memory copy varied around 400 points. The latency mostly varied between 77.7 and 77.6 nanoseconds, but one result was 76.8ns, so even more notable outliers are possible. The latencies of L1-L3 were rock solid on these settings and generally the variance was very small, except for the L3 results, where transfer rates for L3 read, for example, could vary between 257.xx and 325.xx. In short, something really weird is going on if 4.60 drops your figures by that much. I assume you double checked that the timings and everything that were set in the BIOS also showed up with other programs like CPU-Z or Ryzen Timing Checker? ------------- Ryzen 5 1500X, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 2x8 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3466CL16, Sapphire Pulse RX Vega56 8G HBM2, Corsair RM550x, Samsung 960 EVO SSD (NVMe) 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500 GB, Windows 10 64-bit |
Posted By: PetrolHead
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 5:14am
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By the way, 3466MHz sounds about as good a memory speed as you can get with Ryzen 1. Even 3200MHz is a good result and may be tough to achieve without Samsung B-Die memory. ------------- Ryzen 5 1500X, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 2x8 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3466CL16, Sapphire Pulse RX Vega56 8G HBM2, Corsair RM550x, Samsung 960 EVO SSD (NVMe) 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500 GB, Windows 10 64-bit |
Posted By: Jm62383
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 5:57am
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I just ran aida64 and got 41700 read scores...I want to say I was in the 50+ with 3.00...something is def not right. |
Posted By: Jm62383
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 6:41am
| " rel="nofollow - For testing purposes how would I go back to an older bios? I just tried to go back to 3.0 with the dos installer and it would not work? Do I need to flash back to 3.4 then back to 3.0? |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 7:08am
Wut?  |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 7:10am
Whatever you do, don't go below the BIOS rev that first accommodates whatever proc you Sig should be informing us of. |
Posted By: Christoph
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 7:36am
same with me, ram at 3466, is not stable at 3600, but with bios 3.30 was more stable than with the 4.40 now, with 3.30 bios I could post to windows even surf the net but with 4.40 it doesn't even post, that is why I haven't flash to 4.60 even more since there since to be a RAM performance drop
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Posted By: Christoph
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 7:38am
| " rel="nofollow - by the way I registered to this forum just to see if anyone has any info on VDDP in the Taichi x370 board, I've read a lot but nothing really about this setting, does it improve ram stability? lower the voltage or higher? |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 8:10am
I would like to say that it is stable in 90% of applications, I can for example install the system with RAM at 3600MHz without problems, play some games for hours, and some games like BF1, PUBG, TW3 for example do not stay stable and have random closures without time or even reset the machine. Already 3466MHz CL14 with all tight timmings work 100% solid rock. ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 8:13am
Welcome Christoph https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/05/25/community-update-4-lets-talk-dram |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 8:16am
That makes me want to play some with the kit/timings/voltages in my Sig. It's been two AGESA releases ago since I've fiddled. |
Posted By: Christoph
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 11:23am
thanks and I've read that so many times but that does not help at all, the info is useless does anyone have a guide about how to calculate timings manually?
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 11:30am
I'm sorry you feel it is useless. You're looking for quick and easy. With out the headaches of learning. |
Posted By: Christoph
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 1:35pm
oh this
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Posted By: PetrolHead
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 5:19pm
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Here's a piece of software that does it for you: http://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-0-0-beta-3-overclocking-dram-am4.html Of course, should you choose to you it, you'll do it at your own risk. On my system the safe timings worked but seemed to make L3 cache benchmark (AIDA64) results more unstable than normally. Furthermore, not all benchmarks showed a positive result from tightening the timings and the latency change was insignificant, so in the end I went back to XMP timings (with CL16 dropped to CL14). ------------- Ryzen 5 1500X, ASRock AB350M Pro4, 2x8 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3466CL16, Sapphire Pulse RX Vega56 8G HBM2, Corsair RM550x, Samsung 960 EVO SSD (NVMe) 250GB, Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500 GB, Windows 10 64-bit |
Posted By: SternRabbit
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 7:02pm
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" rel="nofollow - @PetrolHead 1USMUS is doing a rewrite of the software, should be out 7-10 days today. I have just updated to 4.5 then 4.6 But one core CPU-0 is stuck @3.59Ghz FSB 90Mhz And Memory @2.65Ghz should be 2933Mhz I tried the 4.61 same thing. HWInfo says all cores 3.975Mhz FSB 99.8Mhz as usual But SIV64X says different, one core CPU-0 is stuck @3.59Ghz FSB 90Mhz And Memory @2.65Ghz should be 2933Mhz Benchmarks are low around the CPU 3.6Ghz and Mem 2.6Ghz level Oh dear :( How do i go back safely ? :) My sig is not showing for me EDIT: now it does  Ryzen 1800x @3.975 + CORSAIR 110i 4x Arctic F14 Silent * Arock x370 Killer SLi Bios 4.61 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX @3066 14-16-16-16-32-54 ------------- Ryzen 1800x @3.975 + CORSAIR 110i 4x Arctic F14 Silent * Arock x370 Killer SLi Bios 3.4 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X16GB @2933 14-15-15-16-30-52 |
Posted By: brPariah
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 9:30pm
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I don't know if it was a coincidence or not since it does not seem like this bios update is targeted at the new 2000G processors, but my system got more stable and I was able to achieve higher frequencies with -again- much more stability than before. I'm using my 2200g @ 3925 with perfect stability, I could go even higher but it would require 1.4 V or more so I'd rather keep it at this. |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2018 at 10:57pm
think of it more like targeted to tweak and polish the bios update for the 2000 series eg wifi fix etc the first bios never gives the best results........... ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 3:04am
In Taichi the system is very stable and with incredible responsiveness. This BIOS 4.40 is really very good, now, I only update if there is any improvement of the infinity fabric improving latencies and etc ... ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: Jm62383
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 3:06am
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Ok guys I have had time to roll back my bios to 3.00 and these new bios need some work. I only have the aid64 trial installed so I can only see "read speed" buutttt... P3.00 51700 read @ 3466 14-14-14-26 P4.7 41700 read @ 3466 14-14-14-26 Both had the same latency of 68 ns By my math that's a 20% hit to memory bandwidth...not something I would see as "small" *edit* maybe this is a stupid thought but I wonder since the newer bios are for the pinnacle ridge chips if it isnt just reserving that memory bandwidth for the onboard video even tho im not using that chip...if that makes sense. ------------- Ryzen 1700@3.7 AB350 Gaming K4 Tridentz F4-3600C15D-16GTZ@3466 |
Posted By: Handrox
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 4:57am
Here I have the same problem with the transfer rates, I went back to using BIOS 4.40 which is really very good. What you talk about booking bandwidth for the IGPU for me makes a lot of sense ... ------------- Asrock X370 Taichi + Ryzen 1700X@3.8GHz + 2x8GB GSkill TridentZ 3600MHz@3466MHz CL14 + MSi GTX 1070 Armor 2 OC |
Posted By: Jm62383
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 5:48pm
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Ill have to compare your boards 4.4 and see what revision that would be for my ab350 and try it. ------------- Ryzen 1700@3.7 AB350 Gaming K4 Tridentz F4-3600C15D-16GTZ@3466 |
Posted By: Jm62383
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2018 at 7:43am
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Tried v4.6 which was released a week before your 4.4 and no noticeable loss in bandwidth. I think its just the latest version, 4.7 , that does it. ------------- Ryzen 1700@3.7 AB350 Gaming K4 Tridentz F4-3600C15D-16GTZ@3466 |
Posted By: freestaler
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 7:52pm
| " rel="nofollow - Any news about this error? Someone found a solution or get answer from support? One answer was "Support say is AMD Bug not Asrock Bios fault". (in oc.net forum) |
Posted By: freestaler
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 4:45am
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We did found at overclock.net a workaround. Dont touch any Settings for CpuMultiper in Bios (Asrock or CBS). Just change after bootup in Master Tool of AMD. -> http://www.overclock.net/forum/27234369-post3490.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.overclock.net/forum/27234369-post3490.html |
Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 4:58am
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" rel="nofollow - Did you try overclocking by P-States to rule out ASRock or AMD out of the ecuation? If overlocking by P-State from /Advanced/AMD CBS is working than its ASRock at fault here, if its still giving lower numbers its AMD I would set the highest P-State to your most stable OC setting and check the bandwidth again PS: Nice numbers you got there with 3466MHz, too bad my Corsair 2400MHz kit does not like more than 3333MHz for benchmarks elese 3200MHz for 24/7 stability :( the 2400G could use some 3466 or 3600MHz memory
------------- Main Rig: AMD Ryzen 2400G | ASRock Fatality X370 ITX/ac UEFI 4.90 | Corsair LPX DDR4 2400@3200 1.35V | Corsair RM650i PSU | CM ML120L AiO Cooler |
Posted By: freestaler
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 6:36am
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" rel="nofollow - The Error happen on asrock and cbs. But only on asrock mainvoards. I wont believe that it not an asrock bug. 3,95x3467 ist 24/7 stable.. for benchs only i can reach 3600cl14. Any chance to get an answer from asrock? This bug aso happens with the cpu. |
Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 7:01am
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You can try sending a support ticket to them regarding this problem, you can contact them here: https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp" rel="nofollow - https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp ------------- Main Rig: AMD Ryzen 2400G | ASRock Fatality X370 ITX/ac UEFI 4.90 | Corsair LPX DDR4 2400@3200 1.35V | Corsair RM650i PSU | CM ML120L AiO Cooler |
Posted By: freestaler
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 3:11am
| i did send the Request to Asrock over the form. If i get some more Information, i will update this Thread. Hopefully there fix this Error soon. |
Posted By: Zapious
Date Posted: 11 May 2018 at 7:48am
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FINALLY, No wonder I could not find "Memory throughput decreases when overclocking CPU" (or something to that effect) on Google. BECAUSE, this a specific bios problem and not a everyday computer problem. Thank you so much for sticking to your convictions and not letting others convince you you're crazy because I have been having that exact same problem since I updated from 3.20 to 4.60 a month or so ago. (and YES I did the "bridge BIOS) Loosing 5000MB/s is unacceptable. I went from around 45000 to 38000-39000 when I OC. AND YA!!! Using the Ryzen master utility workaround worked! (Never used that before, always been bios OC for me) I have been using, and am still running 4.61 beta with no issues. (other than the slow memory. SOLVED) I don't have an OC.net account so I can't thank the poster on there but thank-you to you Handrox & Jm62383 & freestaler 
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