Purpose of "Bridge Bios" - OffBoard flashing
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Topic: Purpose of "Bridge Bios" - OffBoard flashing
Posted By: willyvmm
Subject: Purpose of "Bridge Bios" - OffBoard flashing
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 3:02pm
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" rel="nofollow - Hi. Yesterday i got Ryzen 5 2400G + Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac. Unfortunately there is 3.10 Bios onBoard But, Fortunately, BIOS chip is socketed (Like it!), and i can program it offBoard. I'am wondering what is purpose of the "Bridge Bios" ? Do i have to go through it, even if flashing offBoard ?? Is there special image for flashing offBoard, or just use the provided files? Best Regards Willy.
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 5:15pm
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Yes. Of course the 3.60 Bridge BIOS would need flashed prior/in process. Use whatever your programmer natively uses. If that statement confuses you I'd highly suggest you contact ASRock for a pre-programmed BIOS replacement. https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp" rel="nofollow - https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp |
Posted By: willyvmm
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 8:03pm
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" rel="nofollow - Ok... I guess you don't know how offboard flashing is working. In short: Whole flash is erased, and programmed with new data. So why should I flash 3.60 and right after that erase it and flash another version? :) |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 8:06pm
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;-] https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp" rel="nofollow - https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 8:30pm
Not the $15.00 whirlybird USB gizmos. I read they work. I have a 4 gang model back from when I owned my own Computer shop  |
willyvmm wrote:Posted By: willyvmm
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 8:47pm
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Ehhh... Seems at I have to find it out by myself. FYI I own a professional programmer from when I owned my own Computer serwice ;> |
Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 10:00pm
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" rel="nofollow - So why not ask your progger tech line rather than a bunch of end users? Or just get an older gen APU to flash with or a boot kit like everyone else? ------------- ASRock X370-ITX BIOS 4.50 R5 2600 Cryorig C7 EVGA GTX 950 75w 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 2933 960Evo M.2 256GB, Firecuda 1TB Win 10 Pro 64 1803 G-Unique Archdaemon 300 Watt Lian-li Q21B |
Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 11:30pm
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id suspect when u flash bios it doesnt rewrite all bios parts, as there still seems to be keeping some garbage from previous bioses bridge bios should help u eliminate that garbage so u wont brick it sinc u gonna flash it from offboard, u can fully rewrite it without bridge bios even if u happen to brick it, u can still rewrite it later :P ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/diq4l4" rel="nofollow">  http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47132492" rel="nofollow - userbenchmark |
Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 11:37pm
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" rel="nofollow - willyvmm, this looks like fun - my 2 cents. If your programmer erases the ROM, then why would it be necessary to burn the bridge code when it will just get erased. If it is really needed, you would need to burn the bridge code, plug the ROM into the board and boot (modify some setting in board???). Then burn the real code. I would suggest you do it the easiest way and then do it again if necessary. Since this is a user forum, you really need to go to ASRock to get the answer, but that may take some time. Enjoy, John.
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Posted By: willyvmm
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 11:51pm
What are you talking about ?? Could you please read the Topic and the Main question on the 1'st post? If you are so lazy I'll help you:
So, let me explain you why: ASROCK did a great step socketing the BIOS flash rom chip. Especially when it's not possible to flash the chip without working RAM+CPU/APU. Obtaining a new chip from ASROCK, takes minimum a week. (they still didn't answered my questions, but it may be because of time difference) Obtaining a "boot kit" from AMD, takes minimum a week and you have to proof you have tried to contact support etc. Obtaining a older gen APU, if you dont have one on the shelf - takes time, and sometimes money (i already paid for new hardware - isn't?) but ... using socketed flash rom, You can ask ANY GOOD computer shop and ANY SERVICE to program it for you. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes, and even if you have pay for that, is cheap and fast. In my case i can do that by myself ... and there is only ONE thing that is mysterious: should i go through THE BRIDGE BIOS? Really? Why? I have no idea why the official guide don't use the advantage of socketed bios chip? @kerberos_20: So how it is possible at ASROCK can send you a preflashed chip, even if you have go through the bridge bios? @MisterJ: Of course, I'll do that for fun :) and report results here. Regards Willy.
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Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2018 at 1:13am
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i ment what i ment when u use built in instant flash (uefi tool) or windows flash :) ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/diq4l4" rel="nofollow"> http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47132492" rel="nofollow - userbenchmark |
Posted By: willyvmm
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2018 at 3:02am
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Short resume: If you are flashing BIOS offboard, Bridge Bios is not necessary. What i did: Flash v4.51 - no post. (auto power cycle after 30s) Flash v3.60 - no post. (auto power cycle after 30s) Flash v4.50 - no post. (auto power cycle after 30s) Without flash - no post. (auto power cycle after 30s) w8 a moment ... WTF ... stupid me ... i forgot to install RAM modules. After installing RAM, system booted flawless. Conclusion: If you have access to at least SPI FLASH progrmmer (need support for 1,8V) or Computer Service - go for it, flash the newest version and enjoy. Best Regards Willy.
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Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2018 at 3:16am
" rel="nofollow - That's great, willyvmm!. Thanks for reporting.
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