Fatality X370 ITX/ac BIOS L4.51 very buggy
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Topic: Fatality X370 ITX/ac BIOS L4.51 very buggy
Posted By: cristy6100
Subject: Fatality X370 ITX/ac BIOS L4.51 very buggy
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2018 at 11:49pm
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" rel="nofollow - After buying a Ryzen 2400G, I installed latest bios L4.51 These are the bugs that I found so far, version 4.50/4.43 have all 6 also, 4.40 does not exibit bug #3 I will list below my findings: 1. Cannot disable SATA controller and wired LAN, even if you select the sata controller to disabled nothing happens, bios still offers to boot from SATA drives, regarding Wired LAN, there no option to disable the LAN controller, how is this possible? 2. The M.2 slot losses priority when a SATA drive is connected, so even if you have you OS on the M.2 drive, the windows installer and OS will detect the SATA Drives starting from Disk 0...., the M.2 drive will be the last in the list in Disk Managment and every disk detection utility, again unacceptable, the M.2 OS drive needs to be always DISK 0!!! Not DISK 5 in my case with 4 SATA drives connected as secondary drives for storage... 3. After OS install i have a Safely remove hardware icon for the M.2 OS drive! Problem does not occur in bios 4.40, after 4.40 it appears in every other bios release, why would we want to hot swap/eject the main OS drive? There is no need for hot swap on the M.2 slot 4. Bad naming for SATA ports when controller set to AHCI mode (problem might occur in RAID mode also but I did not test in RAID mode): SATA3_1 will apear in quick boot menu and bios menus as AHCI P0 instead of P1 SATA3_2 will apear in quick boot menu and bios menus as AHCI P5 instead of P2 SATA3_3 will apear in quick boot menu and bios menus as AHCI P4 instead of P3 SATA3_4 will apear in quick boot menu and bios menus as AHCI P1 instead of P4 This is very confusing when you have 4 drives connected and you try to boot of one of them, even if internally the ports are wired like that, the naming in the interface and menus should be the corect one as printed on the PCB and as shown in the storage controller menu 5. The GPU will throttle even when cooling is adequate, it makes the experience bad, every 5-10 seconds it goes down to 200-400 then up to 1240mhz, reducing the voltages helps but does not fix the issue, tested in numerous games, cooling is a Corsair H60 so no problems there, temp is a max of 55-60C for the CPU and 35-44C for the Socket, this a bad TDP limit implementation that needs fixing 6. FanTastic tuning will not work in uefi, just enter the screen for FanTastic Tuning select All Fans and click full speed and apply... nothing happens same for the rest of the modes only after a restart will the setting change, but you can change it live from the normal menu not the Fantastic Tuning menu, again this did not happen in bios 2.10 and 3.60 (these I used before upgrading to 2400G) Please guys if you have a Fatality AB350 or X370 ITX/ac AM4 board with a Raven Ridge check those things and report back Thanks for helping with this |
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 12:13am
Thanks for the detailed list of issues  Anyone else with these problems, please chime in so we can get an idea if the issue is consistent across a number of boards or specific to the original poster's configuration somehow. @cristy6100 Have you already tried clearing CMOS, ideally via the battery removal method? Most guides I have seen regarding installing an OS on M.2 (SATA or NVMe) recommend disconnecting all other drives during install. I generally do this as a matter of course. I wonder if you would still experience the drive labeling issues if you were to do this? ------------- 
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Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 12:18am
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Yes, that was the first thing I did, pressed the power button with the psu off for 30 seconds to empty the capacitors and residual current then switched the jumper to clear for 2 minutes After that loaded all stock settings, and set my memory to 2133 and 1.35V (I can do 3200 no problems there) but just for safety After that I did a clean reinstall of latest Windows 10 Pro X64 genuine. The 4.40 BIOS does exhbit all bugs listed here minus the Safely Remove Icon for the M.2, but it has a temperature bug, and Storage controllers page this time does not list any drives, but they boot anyways The priority for the M.2 is a new bug, if I install a A8/A10 Bristol Ridge it does not occur, so its a Raven Ridge bug. Even if I disconnect and install with only the M.2 drive as soon as I connect the SATA drives on a clean install, windows will set the SATA drives as Disk 0 1 2 and 3, them main OS drive will apear as the last drive in the system But besides those 5 things I could not find any other problems, but I run all stock no OC, if they manage to fix these I can call it a day and deem the pc stable and usable
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 12:40am
Thanks cristy6100, that is helpful information  The Beta is based on the P4.50 BIOS so it stands to reason any issues there would carry over. The new issues are directly connected to the M.2 changes made though, still much better than no M.2 detection at all. I don't doubt that the next release will resolve at least most of these issues. The Raven Ridge APUs are still very new and AMD likely still has bugs to work out of the AGESA code for them. Given it is Ryzen derivative lets hope they don't take as long as they did with Ryzen  -------------
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Posted By: hifihedgehog
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 1:05am
" rel="nofollow - [URL=][/URL]I have some follow-up questions so that I can understand these issues as a perspective Raven Ridge builder myself:
I take it that this only affects SATA M.2 drives, not PCIe? Does changing the boot priority in the BIOS fix this at all?
This sounds an awful lot like it could be some other system issue (e.g. unstable power supply) since, to my knowledge, this was resolved in 4.50. I have been following reddit user looncraz for a while now who has deployed hundreds of AMD systems (e.g. he just recently had 100 or so AMD systems with Freesync: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/841rhe/any_suggestions_for_dealing_with_freesync_flicker/dvmswxa/ ). Since the throlling issue was completely resolved for him in 4.50 ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/82wmo3/2400g_users_turbo_off_helps_with_slowdowns_who/dvdqbs8/ ), I am skeptical and I wonder if something else in your system is the culprit. |
cristy6100 wrote:Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 1:34am
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Unfortunately the throttle has not been resolved, it was way worse on 4.40/4.43 but still bad on 4.50/4.51, only the GPU throttles not the CPU, with 4.40/4.43 it went to 200MHz very frequent, now it goes to 400 and not so frequent to 200, still causes massive stuttering so no competitive gaming possible yet, the issues are with a PCI-E M.2 drive not SATA M.2, chaning boot order makes no difference, the issues are still present (it seems the bios tells the M.2 drive that it needs to be the last drive in the sistem, every other SATA port has priority over the M.2 slot, but with a Bristol Ridge CPU (Excavator arch) M.2 is always first, very odd EDIT: The throttling is not really bothering me for the moment, but those other 4 bugs do, if we can somehow forward this to ASRock so they check it out. Regarding M.2 detection, with 4.40 I could boot the M.2 drive even if in bios it was not shown, it was just a UEFI UI bug, if you had only the M.2 drive and no SATA drives, it would boot because the drive was detected but the UI did not show this to the user EDIT 2: Every mention I made about a SATA port refers to the four SATA ports on the board not the M.2 slot with a SATA SSD in it EDIT 3: My PSU is a Corsair RM750x, I swapped it for a Seasonic Focus+ made no difference
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Posted By: stree
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 5:58am
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Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 6:27am
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Latest version, iso made with utility from microsoft. Also FanTastic tuning will not work in uefi, just enter the screen for FanTastic Tuning select All Fans and click full speed and apply... nothing happens same for the rest of the modes only after a restart will the setting change, but you can change it live from the normal menu not the Fantastic Tuning menu, again this did not happen in bios 2.10 and 3.60 (these I used before upgrading to 2400G)
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Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 7:31pm
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@hifihedgehog I saw your post on reddit about "that user" sorry to dissapoint but if 1 user has his problem fixed that does not mean that everybody had, keep in mind that these apu's come with variable voltage from the factory for the cpu part, your cpu might have 1.31V max turbo, and mine might have 1.45V max turbo voltage. Speaking of voltage mine has 1.45V turbo voltage, the board defaults my cpu to 1.395V in uefi so that might matter @Xaltar Thank you for help with this |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 7:39pm
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I have passed your info on to ASRock Tech Support. Thanks for taking the time to provide such a detailed breakdown. -------------
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Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 8:07pm
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There is also some talk about SMU 30.68.0 fixing the throttling, the latest available bioses have 30.67.0 so we dont know for sure if its fiexed until ASRock releases updated bioses You can check your SMU (which might stand for System Managment Unit) version by going in Advanced/AMD PBS/Firmware versions
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