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Ryzen cpu must lucky unit for DDR4 high Mhz??? sure sure??? as said by most B.die users maintain soc 1.1v but achieve 3200mhz, 3400mhz, etc etc ..... it's like just depends on good ram than require lucky cpu. Comment ???

could it be possible without killing the cpu to up the soc voltage crazy high, which I hope would allow infinity fabric to run past 2666mhz into much higher teritory? Anyone has link to who have tried soc 1.3v ???

0.9v only, wow that's really good and really cool, didn't think it would even boot.... my god. I've got to try it too.......

so the soc is just like northbridge sits inside next to CPU, runs by itself, doesn't affect others like the infinity fabric is running across the multi-cone, which is not soc circuit right? hence for ram to run fast simply just need good ram??? and infinity fabric doesn't necessary need to be spec at 2666mhz, they are just wires and connectors and switchs rights? can run as fast as the CPU, be it 3.5Ghz or those succesful at 4Ghz.

Means if a ram can run 4Ghz, then it can match with a 4Ghz cpu easily ???

Then i upped SoC from 1.03V to 1.13V and could instantly boot 3333 with no issues; that while 2200G oced to 3.9 Ghz - just 3466 is still an issue but its ok; i can live very well with 3333.

So yeh; upping SoC does indeed help to achieve higher ram clocks from my experience.

hhhhhmmmmm  it's been stable for so long........ I'm itching to give it another round of battle, :) :) :) let you guys know outcome later later later. I take my sweet time week and week to test it out. 

@NINEGRAVES,

Sounds like you got some of the best ram you can get. I'm in a similar situation as you are. I have 16GB (2x8GB) Patriot Vipers (rated @ 3000MHz) installed into an AB350M Pro 4 motherboard.

If I let the motherboard BIOS just boot up to whatever it wants all I get is 2133MHz. Horrible. If I wanted that slow of a speed I would have just bought an A320M and saved $10.00.

I did set my memory sticks to 16-18-18-36 in the BIOS and my system was actually booting up and running @ 2934MHz (shown in Windows Task Manager->Performace->Memory tab screen).

It seems like it ran pretty stable for a day or two but then Windows starting failing during boot up so I set it back to auto. I'm running @ 2134MHz (per same screen) right now.

That thing you did scares me because I've never overclocked in my life. That 10% boost to SoC voltage...is that pretty safe?

@daytonyb,

1) What is it about Samsung B-dies that make it so special though. What is the characteristic? If you've already PAID for memory that is labelled on the package @ a rated speed, why isn't that good enough? I've called this stuff out as being like playing the "lottery" on other forums. The mod got his panties all up in a bunch and said I was trolling. I'm not trolling.

If you buy memory rated @ XXXXMHz that memory should run @ XXXXMHz, no ifs and or buts!!! Assuming, 100% of course, that your CPU and your motherboard supports that speed, which mine do!

2) What do you mean by "decent CPU memory controller"? That scares the hell out of me again because it sounds like a lottery. If I buy an AMD 2200G CPU that "officially" supports dual-channel memory @ 2933MHz then by definition, the memory controller is already "assumed" to be decent, is it not? Isn't the MC you speak of literally on the same die as the CPU?

3) It just angers me again when somebody calls the B350 a budget board. Yes, it's a budget board but, none the less, it's been designed to run memory @ up to 3200MHz via OC. So far, this is the only step that doesn't completely depend on fate but it's still ridiculous since the whole reason I bought a B350 (over the A320M) was to be able to overclock. The B350 has been proven incapable of delivering smooth and stable power? God, I feel like I've been had if this is the case. How does one relate this knowledge to step #4?

4) I have a Cosair CX 430 on my system. I don't have a discrete graphics card in the system so it should be more than enough power. But how can one tell if it's smooth and stable? Are there tools I can buy or just read some reviews or what bullet points do I look for on the specs? I want my Patriot Vipers to run at their rated speeds of 3000MHz (or 2933/2934MHz since it's not an Intel system, whatever) and I want it to do so for weeks and weeks without Windows crashing. Not just a few hours or days.

Cheers

I attached a HWMonitor screen, as you can see the readings are all over the place for the voltages, can someone with a X370 ITX/ac confirm there is no SoC voltage reading ?

Wow,

You have raised a lot of serious issues regarding the Ryzen platform that I was completely unaware of.

The appeal of the new Ryzen CPUs (2200G/2400G) with integrated Vega 8/11 graphics was it's price-to-performance ratio. But what I'm hearing from you suggests that it's only an illusion.

My Patriot Vipers are on the QVL Memory list for Raven Ridge memory compatibility but they only boot up @ 2133MHz. That's not right.

I, however, have them working now at a stable speed of 2800MHz by setting my own timings. It's kind of ridiculous that a person who knows next to nothing can get their chips working at a faster stable speed than a genius company like ASRock.

Oh well, thanks for your in-depth reply. I really appreciate it. I hope it helps others others as well.

The one thing that you said that makes me wonder about though is that the advertised speeds are for Intel and not AMD. But motherboards that are designed by ASRock are designed for specific CPUs. Obviously an AM4 motherboard can only run AMD AM4 socket chips. So, ASRock AM4 motherboards advertising memory speeds @ 3200MHz with an overclock are obviously not for Intel. Unless you were talking just about the rated speed of the memory chips themselves.

I think the easiest route for anyone who wants extreme performance in gaming is to just buy a good discrete graphics card. Then you aren't left hoping and praying that you will get the performance that you paid for.

I never cared about overclocking my memory past 2933MHz which is what ASRock's QVL for Raven Ridge memory list says it will work at. That's all I wanted!