X399 Taichi CSM bug - code 0E
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Topic: X399 Taichi CSM bug - code 0E
Posted By: Tangles
Subject: X399 Taichi CSM bug - code 0E
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2018 at 10:36pm
This thread is now about a bug when disabling CSM on the X399 Taichi, which is a required step in making an NVMe RAID array bootable. Myself and other users can consistently replicate an issue where the board does not boot and gives code 0E after disabling CSM. It may be intermittent as I was able to get the board to boot on one occasion, even as far as installing windows 10, but then upon reboot the code was thrown, and it wouldn't boot again.
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Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 8:52am
" rel="nofollow - AMD released an update back on the 2nd Oct 2017 that was supposed to enable booting from NVMe RAID. That coincides with a BIOS update from ASRock that enabled NVMe RAID, so I think I can safely assume v2.00 should support booting from NVMe RAID. According to AMD's announcement, disabling CSM is a requirement of doing this:
Q: Is your NVMe RAID solution bootable?
A: Yes. Create the RAID array with the RAID management menu(s) in your BIOS, then proceed with Windows installation. Please ensure that your system is in pure UEFI mode by installing Windows with Compatibility Support Module (CSM) disabled in your BIOS. You will also need the NVMe RAID driver on a flash drive, as the Windows installer will ask for it before your array can be detected. |
The NVMe RAID does not show up as a bootable device so it doesn't appear it's possible without disabling CSM.
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Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 4:33pm
Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 5:55pm
Tried a lot of things... got windows to install, then rebooted and bam, code 0E. Have tried different RAM, and a different graphics card to no effect.
I'm officially over it, I'll use my two 960 drives in standalone until there's a fix. Not really ideal
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Posted By: JayB33
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 10:24pm
" rel="nofollow - I get the same error code when disabling CSM and IOMMU both together on my x399 Pro Gaming Fata1ity. See:
http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7022&KW=&PID=42865&title=x399-taichi-raid-win10-install#top
I wanted to enable RAID but I didn't get any further because I simply don't want to disconnect any of my SATA drives, which is what ASRock suggested as the likely remedy. I need all my SATA drives. Fix the 0E BIOS error please!
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Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 6:07am
Thanks for the reply! I actually haven't disabled IOMMU - with the newest win10 builds (1703 / 1709) it boots fine off the USB. I can see how the same incompatibility with previous versions of windows might exist with your rescue disk though
Definitely something is buggy with disabling CSM.
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Posted By: lowdog
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 11:37am
Yeah!!!!!! Asrock need their bios programers to sort this out, unbelievable Asrock can let this issue slide without addressing it at the coding level.
------------- X399 Fat Pro Gaming bios 3.10 - TR4 1900X - 64GB G-SKILL TridentZ F4-3200C14Q-64GTZ @ 3133MHz - Vega 64 AIO with EK block - WC Custom loop - 1500W Silverstone PSU - yay
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Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 2:16pm
" rel="nofollow - I have sent ASRock a service request. It'd be good to have some more solid confirmations for them - are you guys both willing and able to confirm that after a BIOS reset that disabling the CMS causes the error to be thrown? It might take a couple of reboots if you haven't changed any other settings... mine did boot after disabling CSM and I even got as far as installing win10 but then it threw the code again next boot and I had to reset the BIOS to get it going again.
Your RAM, SSD, and PSU specs might be handy too, JayB33
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Posted By: JayB33
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 2:59pm
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Tangles wrote:
[URL=][/URL]I have sent ASRock a service request. It'd be good to have some more solid confirmations for them -?are you guys both willing and able to confirm that after a BIOS reset that disabling the CMS causes the error to be thrown? It might take a couple of reboots if you haven't changed any other settings... mine did boot after disabling CSM and I even got as far as installing win10 but then it threw the code again next boot and I had to reset the BIOS to get it going again.
Your RAM, SSD, and PSU specs might be handy too, JayB33 | I can disable CSM on its own successfully, but not CSM + IOMMU together after a BIOS reset. I emailed ASRock already about it and they told me to remove all devices and try again because they have tested these settings with no BIOS code error. There may be other combinations that cause the error, but I do not wish to remove any devices from my system just to test this issue, because they should run fine, I need it all connected, and I don't want the downtime.
My specs are:
ThermalTake View 71 TG RGB Case Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W Power Supply Unit ASRock X399 Fatal1ty Professional Gaming Motherboard AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X CPU nVidia GeForce GTX 1080 GPU TXD416G3600HC18ADC01 - 4x RAM Modules Samsung 960 Pro - 3x 512 GB NVMe Drives Samsung 950 Pro - 512 GB SSD Samsung 940 Pro - 256 GB SSD Crucial M4 - 256 GB SSD XSPC Raystorm Neo (AMD sTR4) Chrome CPU Waterblock AquaComputer Kryographics 1080 Nickel GPU Waterblock Hardware Labs Black Ice Nemesis GTS 420 Radiator Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC 2000 RPM IP67 PWM 140mm - 3x Radiator Fans ThermalTake Riing 14 RGB - 3x Case Fans XSPC Photon D5 270 Reservoir AquaComputer D5 Pump Motor AquaComputer Aquaero 6 LT Fan Controller Mayhems XT-1 UV Green Coolant Mayhems Ultra Clear 16 / 10 Tubing Bitspower Black Sparkle 16 / 10 Fittings EK-AF Black Nickel 10MM Ball Valve Schiit Audio Modi DAC Schiit Audio Magni Headphone Amplifier Schiit Audio Loki Hardware Equalizer Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro Headphones Dali Zensor 1 Speakers Amptastic Mini 1 Speaker Amplifier Atacama SL600 Speaker Stands Steelseries Rival 300 Mouse Steelseries Dex Mouse Mat
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Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 3:54pm
JayB33 wrote:
I can disable CSM on its own successfully, but not CSM + IOMMU together after a BIOS reset. I emailed ASRock already about it ... but I do not wish to remove any devices from my system |
I'll have another play and see if I can pin it down to just CSM or CSM + a combination of things. I'm fairly certain I can reset bios, then disable CSM only and it will throw the code but I'll confirm.
Gotta play their game if you want them to put time into fixing the issue...
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Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 6:18pm
" rel="nofollow - There is another CSM bug with the AB350/X370 thread is here http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8184&PN=1&title=warning-to-users-with-older-video-cards Not really related besides the fact that its regarding the CSM module, but worth mentioning that there is a problem with ASRock and the CSM function on all boards it seems
------------- Main Rig: AMD Ryzen 2400G | ASRock Fatality X370 ITX/ac UEFI 4.90 | Corsair LPX DDR4 2400@3200 1.35V | Corsair RM650i PSU | CM ML120L AiO Cooler
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Posted By: JayB33
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 9:54pm
It's specifically the error code 0E displayed on the debug LED. We don't know what it refers to, as it's not in the manual.
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Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2018 at 1:35am
0E runs in hardware low level initialisation part of your bios (SEC / bootloader) and it is CPU microcode not found error code
dunno if teh usual "reseat your cpu / RAM" will help you if its from CSM
hmm u may try to reflash your bios, otherwise fell free to try older bios version if any of them are fine
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Posted By: kerberos_20
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2018 at 1:41am
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/754385-ryzen-1800x-error-0e-microcode-not-found-asus-x370-rog/" rel="nofollow - https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/754385-ryzen-1800x-error-0e-microcode-not-found-asus-x370-rog/ some guy here had similar issue and he resolved it with replacing some faulty ram
its wort to try to clear CMOS and run one stick at a time
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Posted By: scythefwd
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2018 at 1:43am
" rel="nofollow - Is this only for booting off of nvme raid? I can validate that csm off and iommu on or off works on my box without the raid..
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Posted By: JayB33
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2018 at 2:58am
Well I have no problem booting from defaults and my ram sticks pass stress testing, but still CSM + IOMMU disabled = 0E. I can disable them individually no problem.
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Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2018 at 10:42am
No response to my technical support inquiry from ASRock yet
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Posted By: Tangles
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 9:47am
EDIT: Received a response from ASRock support - they have confirmed the steps I've taken, although contradicted AMD's instructions for setting up boot from NVMe in that they aren't suggesting CSM be disabled:
Dear Tim,
Thank you for choosing ASRock and contacting us.
Please clear CMOS to load BIOS default setting and boot into BIOS setup.
- Adjust the following setting to make your system boot into your NVMe RAID again:
- Advanced tab>SATA Mode to "RAID mode"
- Advanced tab>AMD PBS>NVMe RAID mode to "Enable"
- CSM>Enable
- Launch Storage OpROM Policy>UEFI Only
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I have definitely tried this configuration and NVMe RAID does not show up as a boot option. With no other disks installed, the "Hard drive BBS boot prioirity" list is empty, as is the F11 boot menu, and of course the system does not boot if I simply turn it on and let it boot. Have replied, will see if they can turn up something further.
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