Fatal1ty AB350/X370 ITX/ac 2700X support added
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Topic: Fatal1ty AB350/X370 ITX/ac 2700X support added
Posted By: cristy6100
Subject: Fatal1ty AB350/X370 ITX/ac 2700X support added
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 2:03am
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" rel="nofollow - If you look in the CPU support list for both the X370 ITX/ac and AB350 ITX/ac they now list the 2600 2600X and 2700, but not the 2700X, why would they not list the 2700X as supported? All other X370 boards do list the 2700X The newly announced Biostar ITX board clearly states 2700X support with worse VRM's than these ASRock boards, this looks like Planned Obsolence Any thoughts? EDIT: ASRock has added today the 2700X to the support list of the Fatal1ty Gaming AB350 / X370 ITX/ac Wonderful of them :) I had a little doubt at first, now those are gone
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 3:29am
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yes maybe asrock have not validated it yet maybe they decided not to use the higher tdp and heat sku biostar..........................hmmmmmm does anyone see these as a competitor brand worth buying ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:14am
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The VRM's used by the ASRock ITX motherboards can sustain higher TDP, up to 140W mabye even higher with no problems, if the Fatality X470 ITX/ac will be validated for the 2700X its clear that this is pure marketing, and planned obsolescence. I am waiting for the X470 ITX/ac product page to come online so I can check and see Biostar is not a direct competitor, but here where I live, I can almost buy 2 Biostar X370 ITX motherboards for the price of the Fatality X370 itx one The Biostar X370 GTN (the ITX one) was not yet validated for the Pinnacle Ridge CPU's, I am really curious about this situation
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Posted By: Annihilator
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:24am
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pretty sure will work on it... its like some mainboards or laptops too... my 8570p officially supports max a i7-3740qm... but the 3840qm works really well. edit: maybe its bacause the first rev. ov the mainboard with the poor heatsink on mosfets(with the 5mm thick heatpad between 
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Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:32am
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I have no doubt it will, but some of us base the purchases on the support list, not everyone is like us tech savvy that we know it will work, then those people will contact ASRock and ASRock will tell them its not supported and they need X470, so not listing the 2700X seems just like a low level marketing tactic, and I expected more from ASRock, but if the X470 ITX/ac will list the 2700X things are clear ------------- Main Rig: AMD Ryzen 2400G | ASRock Fatality X370 ITX/ac UEFI 4.90 | Corsair LPX DDR4 2400@3200 1.35V | Corsair RM650i PSU | CM ML120L AiO Cooler |
Posted By: Annihilator
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:36am
edited my post... maybe its the solution ;) left new one, right old one 
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cristy6100 wrote:Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 6:08am
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I wrote in another post about that situation, its somewhere around here need to search for it and I will link it, from a marketing standpoint it sounds plausible, they could do it, but from a technical point that thicker thermal pad will not affect the capacity of the VRM's. For efficency/capacity of the mosfets to drop they need to be beyond 120-150C, that is impossible to achieve even with the thicker thermal pad, 95-105W is not that much if you remember the FX9590 with its 220W TDP and it was certified on 125-140W motherboards, I had a 9590 that I overclocked to 5.2GHz with 1.55V on a Crosshair V Formula-Z and I remember I had a braided 8 pin ESP extension cord that melted after a Cinebench run, it was a hair away from a short because of the insulation melting away but the motherboard and CPU is still going strong today after 3 years, the 9590 at 5.2 with 1.55 goes to a TDP of at least 300W, and all this with a H110 in push pull, again no airflow on the VRM's, if we take that in consideration 105W worth of current for these VRM's is a cake, and I know the Crosshair V Formula-Z had a 8-2-2 power delivery if I remember right :) and the ASRock ITX ones have a 3 3 2, so they should be ok up to 140W with no problems, I bet there are people with these motherboards and 1800X's overclocked that pull that much current and have no problems
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Posted By: Annihilator
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:00pm
will try a 2700X, when doesnt work, was my last asrock board... just want 3.8GHz all-core n a bit undervolting.  |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:27pm
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Support lists appear to be updated now, my X370 Taichi lists the Ryzen 2xxx CPUs now from BIOS 4.60 upward. ------------- 
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:27pm
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I am guessing ASRock was not allowed to list support until after the official launch date, that is fairly common with new CPU launches. -------------
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Posted By: Annihilator
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:49pm
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asrock updated, now the 2700X is listed: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#CPU" rel="nofollow - https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#CPU |
Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 10:08pm
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I think they missed the 2700X on the ITX boards when they updated the pages, because I checked yesterday all other X370 boards and they had the 2700X listed :)) I updated the thread title and first post to reflect the added support Have a nice day all
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Posted By: Annihilator
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 4:20am
n my 2700X is on da way... will arrive tuesday. really excited to see the performance bump from my 1500X to this lil beast 
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 6:22am
should improve a lot of different aspects all round the early reviews seem to place no difference on b350/x370 boards to the newer x470 with the 2700x performance seems on par what does come up a lot is the cpu needs very very good cooling and just leave it stock and it boosts itself very very well ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: cristy6100
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 5:43am
" rel="nofollow - What ASRock need to do now is clearly state that Pinnacle Ridge is supported, bacause if you go tru the list of their B350/X370 boards the main product page does not state that Pinnacle Ridge is supported, it only states:
The X470 products page states:
X370 is missing the Pinnacle Ridge writing and X470 is missing Bristol Ridge Its a little funny tho, but things like this can hurt sales, because people check the main product page mostly and only after that they look on the detailed CPU support page of the respective motherboard in search for a certain CPU. If the main product page does not list the CPU family they just close the TAB/Window and search for another motherboard, they will not go and search for the detailed CPU support list. Can someone message them to add Bristol Ridge to X470 and Pinnacle Ridge for the B350/X370 boards on the main product pages for the respective motherboards? Maybe Xaltar if you can PM one of the ASRock guys? I know its nothing technical just the marketing, but as I said it could hurt sales, so why not get it done right :) Cheers
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