So guys, I had lived with the ASRock X370 Taichi for a long time now and while it is a great piece of hardware I ask myself what is worth a great board with crap, half working bios that can't save profiles, properly overclock or have timings properly set ? 

Every bios release there is a new bug introduced while they still didn't had the bugs from the previous bios release fixed. There are way too many critical problems that are still in the process of being fixed for more than 7 months.

1- AMD is not responsible for your BIOS team not being capable of making a functional "Save settings" that can actually save things.

2- AMD is not responsible for your BIOS team missing values and mistype HEX values in your memory timings section under AMD CBS .

3- AMD is not responsible for you producing a overclocking board that can't overclock without dropping the memory performance down to 18%.

4- AMD is not responsible for this board or the exclusive features that ASRock advertised with it that don't work.

5- AMD is not responsible for the problems described here that are still present after so many bios releases and many for far more than half a year.

The board now is half working and we are here, like peasants, hoping they can fix something that they advertised in the product we have paid for.

We are not looking for workarounds and we don't want excuses and specially, we don't want tips from "people" who are always trying to play the "blame user/amd for ASRock boards faults".

 

All we want is a functional board with decent bios, not this half finished *** bioses ASRock has been feeding this and pretty much all AM4 boards for so long.  

Let's get real...It's been more than freaking year now, all the other vendors advanced with the functionality of their boards while ASRock is going backwards.

Go to every ASRock review you see and bomb them with the reality about this and other boards, send e-mails to ASRock support on a daily basis, scream on every place they are discussing the Taichi.

You just can't FREAKING OVERCLOCK with an overclocking board that is more than a year old now because if you do you will let go alot of memory performance. Board is more than a year old.

Bios - 4.40 and up 

You purchased this ASRock hardware thinking of overclock ? No candy... More than a year later and BCLK overclocking is BROKEN along with any manual overclocking.

Bios 4.40, 4.64, 4.60, 4.70

You just can't P-state .

Bios 4.40, 4.64, 4.60, 4.70

You heard about it on the ASUS thread, wer guys are enjoying everything you miss ??

Yeah, Scalar is a minor thing in the bigger realm of an overclocking board that can't overclock. 

This settings has been removed from any bios that came after 4.40. Scalar is still a working "feature" but is hidden and defaulted to "100", or maximum if you prefer.

Bios 4.64, 4.60, 4.70

Lazy work on the adjustments for "Memory Timings" under "AMD CBS". You have HEX numbers, you have missing values, you have mistyped values and ifyour overclock fails, you will net to re-enter everything again as you will on #6.

Bios - Since forever... We are living with these since the introduction of this section... Board is more than a year old.

You don't have a functional way to "Save Profiles" because ASRock bios team decided everything under "Advanced" is useless and not worth their precious time - Overclocking board that can't save overclocking settings like "Core Performance Boost", "Global C-States" and so on... Oh, all your freaking Memory timings that took you 5 minutes to write down because you typed in HEX numbers ( tx ASRock ) ??? Guess what happens if your memory overclock fails ??? Yes, you will need to type those nice HEX numbers again since you can't save profiles and this board is more than a year old !!

You just got a brand new 2nd gen ryzen with that improved IMC and is trying to push your memory a little more ??? No candy, actually you may need to push it down. I had 3600 now I do 3466.

Bios 4.40 and up.

Bellow you will see images on wer I tried, with my broken English, to point some of the crucial problems this bios board has.

Thats just wrong. Spectre V2 Fixes in are incomming with AGESA 1.0.0.2a. So There is a reason to Upgrade aso with Ryzen 1. 

Back2Topic, AsRock do somethings. Otherwise i wont recommend Asrock anymore. Error are not fixed like "saving CBS Settings with Profile", no work to fix MemoryBandwidth loos (Support say it AMD fault, buit why Asus and MSI did found a workaround and asrock not?) lost feature to use Asrock Ram settings with AMD CBS -> Why is that since Version 4.xx not possbile at Asrock? Again other Manfactur can handle. 

I think there is a huge Problem by the Bios AMD programming team. if there not bring in the next 30 days lot of fixes, i will be away. and i wont recommend asrock anymore.

That's just the thing, according to AMD it's supposed to be 1 unified BIOS/AGESA for ALL Pinnacle Ridge, Summit, and Raven Ridge per this:  https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/amd-ama-starts-at-12pm-est-on-wednesday-may-9.2545291/page-5#post-39418777" rel="nofollow - https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/amd-ama-starts-at-12pm-est-on-wednesday-may-9.2545291/page-5#post-39418777

So, as it stands, ASRock is really dropping the ball on this.  

I'd have to disagree.  I had to upgrade from 3.2 to 4.4 to get around the CPU voltage bug that prevented me from doing any type of overclock that involved additional voltage.  At least now on 4.4 I can overclock my 1800x even if it's not properly reporting my frequency to the OS properly.

That said, I used to be able to run 4ghz with ryzen master in bios 3.2 @ 1.35v.  Now I need to push above 1.4v to get 4ghz stable.

1- ASRock moderator wardog controls http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/" rel="nofollow - ASRock support area on tweaktown wer he did not let my post about these issues go live.

2- Contacting ASRock support has proven to be a total waste of time.

The problem is Cimebench 15 Single IPC Score is only 173 MAX. That's 6 points off and that's huge. Everyone else is at 179 and 180. I set my memory to 2933 and now I can do 179. All stock settings, out of the box.weird...

Guys, we will never stop you reporting or bringing issues to the attention of the forums. We moderators are here to help. We do not work for ASRock, we work with ASRock to facilitate communication between ASRock's users and ASRock itself. We are a part of this community and as such our priority is our users, not ASRock's reputation. We will dissuade hearsay and inaccurate reports yes but this is for the benefit of the user making the report, if you are blaming your board for a problem caused by something else then you will not find a solution till you examine other components/software.

Every manufacturer has it's strengths and weaknesses, ASRock is no different. Sometimes there are issues, we do our best to help smooth these over, for you, our forum community. 

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Thread re-locked, I allowed this thread to remain active for quite some time, I will never lock a thread where users are trying to make the forum aware of issues. However, the thread has moved from helpful information to pointless and rude accusations.