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    Posted: 09 May 2019 at 3:13am
Hi.
My boots are super slow compared to my intel machine.
Windows 10 boots in 30+ seconds. on the intel box it's less than 5 sec to desktop.
also nvme speeds are absolute garbage, 50MB/s sustained while the very same drive does 900MB/s sustained in my intel rig.

SPECS:
amd: ryzen 2700x, x470 taichi, 16gb gskill 3200mhz cl4, intel 600p nvme 1tb ssd

intel: 9900k, gigabyte z390 aorus master, 32gb corsair 3000mhz, intel 600p nvme 1tb ssd.

it really bothers me.
i have the latest windows, fresh install, updates, latest bios for my amd mb.

Is there a guru in the house ?
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A ground up fresh install while on a MB wouldn't do this.

Sure it's not cloned? Alignment? What BIOS is the MB running?
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fresh, not cloned. Alignment i have no idea, windows did it's thing.
Windows 10 64bit

Latest bios, 3.20
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Something doesn't add up.

Even my old Taichi had 15s in UEFI, with no fast boot options enabled whatsoever.

SSD speeds are crazy too.

Before we tear it all down you may want to use HWINFO or similar and check all PCIe bus widths, DDR channel configuration and timigs, etc.

You also would need the latest chipset driver for your X470. IDK how good are intel's NVMe drivers, but usually Windows' own one is good enough.
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doesnt add up.
here's hwinfo info https://postimg.cc/gallery/1ap62a0ey/
it seems ok to me.
i have the latest chipset driver for my x470 from amd.com/drivers
(18.50) released on 4/22/2019
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on my intel system i didnt install the intel nvme driver, it's windows's own thing
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote xhue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 5:26am
Can you check if your SSD is reported as PCIe 3.0 x4 on your AMD system?

Wild guess here - maybe you DO need the intel NVMe driver for the AMD platform? It's worth a shot.

Another thing to try would be CMOS clear, PSID revert under Linux LiveCD, create just 1 large partition, and run some benchmarks while in the same live session.
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Tell me something please.

Windows key + R >type msinfo32 > scroll to Storage > click on Disks > center the 600p in the window so it shows all data > grab a screensot of that that is readable and post it here

Current 600P Firmware for your drive is 121C. Is that what Intel's SSD Drive Toolbox reports?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/products/94922/memory-and-storage/consumer-ssds/intel-ssd-600p-series.html

Lastly which M.2 position is this drive mounted to on the MB? If M2_1 and you've installed that blasted heatsink over it, take it off!

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Originally posted by xhue xhue wrote:

Can you check if your SSD is reported as PCIe 3.0 x4 on your AMD system?

Wild guess here - maybe you DO need the intel NVMe driver for the AMD platform? It's worth a shot.

Another thing to try would be CMOS clear, PSID revert under Linux LiveCD, create just 1 large partition, and run some benchmarks while in the same live session.


I thought it is. since hwinfo reports it as being gen 3 x4 at x4
to be frank i had intel driver installed and uninstalled. it made no difference. i know because under device manager - storage controllers instead of standard nvm express controller as it is now it was intel something.
no change.

linux related, i booted into linux mint 19.1 which is the latest and the speed is somewhat similar, 65MB/s sustained, instead of 50 as it is in windows.

I updated bios yesterday to 3.20 so it got cmos cleared.
psid related, i never encrypted anything. it's the first time i hear about psid too.
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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Tell me something please.

Windows key + R >type msinfo32 > scroll to Storage > click on Disks > center the 600p in the window so it shows all data > grab a screensot of that that is readable and post it here

Current 600P Firmware for your drive is 121C. Is that what Intel's SSD Drive Toolbox reports?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/products/94922/memory-and-storage/consumer-ssds/intel-ssd-600p-series.html

Lastly which M.2 position is this drive mounted to on the MB? If M2_1 and you've installed that blasted heatsink over it, take it off!

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Apologies. i was tired and made a typo. it's a 660p drive. sorry for making that mistake.

regarding the screenshot, here's the actual text :

Description     Disk drive
Manufacturer     (Standard disk drives)
Model     INTEL SSDPEKNW010T8
Bytes/Sector     512
Media Loaded     Yes
Media Type     Fixed hard disk
Partitions     1
SCSI Bus     0
SCSI Logical Unit     0
SCSI Port     3
SCSI Target ID     0
Sectors/Track     63
Size     953.86 GB (1,024,203,640,320 bytes)
Total Cylinders     124,519
Total Sectors     2,000,397,735
Total Tracks     31,752,345
Tracks/Cylinder     255
Partition     Disk #3, Partition #0
Partition Size     953.85 GB (1,024,191,365,120 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset     16,777,216 bytes

I had the latest intel ssd toolbox, tried to up the firmware, already had latest firmware, did an optimize, no change.

regarding slots, i tested both. the one closest to the cpu and the other one. with or without heatsink mnade no difference, max drive temps rarely reached 40 C. it's not overheating.

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