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pekseg 
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 Topic: asrock 970 wont boot with 4 pieces of RAMPosted: 05 Dec 2015 at 6:46pm |
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Hi,
I have a asrock 970 pro3 r2 with a fx6300 (I think is quite generic config) I have 4x 8GB HX318C10F/8 Hyperx RAM. (1866MHz) The pc is rock solid with any of the two RAM, in any bank population config, but wont post if 4 (or 3) are inside. BIOS is the latest 2.40. No OC. Everything is AUTO. Any idea? |
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wardog
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 7:28pm |
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First check that the RAM Voltage is set to the proper voltage. Some boards are known to undervolt them.
Post back what you discover. We'll go from there with two more changes that should have you running 1866 on those sticks/CPU |
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 8:00pm |
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Hi,
thanks for your reply. The voltage is set to AUTO...however I found a similar forum entry: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2783786/upgrading-16gb-ram-32gb-ram-hyper-1866-fury-amd-fx8350-asrock-970-pro-motherboard-issue.html the solution is to set the memory timing manual to DDR3-1600 (instead of AUTO or 1866). With this the pc boots, and see all the 32GB RAM. What other options would you like to try? :) |
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 8:13pm |
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Ok. Are these 4 sticks from a 32GB(4x8GB) Kit?
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 10:38pm |
Here's where I'm going at by asking that. Whether they are 4 individual sticks or two 16GB(1x8GB) Kits, their programmed SPD and other must match. If they do not, odds are they will behave in the manner you describe. Using CPU-z, assuming they are actually two 16GB(2x8GB) Kits, place the two sticks that have consecutive serial number in and look in CPU-z that all their timing columns are the same. Record these numbers or capture a screen shot to refer back to. Now place the other two consecutive serialed sticks in and compare their SPD and other to the first sets. They should match exactly. If they don't that would indicate that either two consecutive serialed sticks will work by themselves, but not combined with the other two sticks. This is easily verified by doing the above. |
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 11:18pm |
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Actually, the were sold separately but all of them have the exact same part number:
(I don't have windows, so just took the normal 'dmidecode' to see the part number, but all of them are the same): root@server:~# dmidecode |grep -A 7 DDR3 Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) Speed: 1600 MHz Manufacturer: Kingston Serial Number: XX2C09XX Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum0 Part Number: KHX1866C10D3/8G Rank: 2 -- Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) Speed: 1600 MHz Manufacturer: Kingston Serial Number: XX1B0BXX Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum1 Part Number: KHX1866C10D3/8G Rank: 2 -- Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) Speed: 1600 MHz Manufacturer: Kingston Serial Number: XX2CF3XX Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum2 Part Number: KHX1866C10D3/8G Rank: 2 -- Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered) Speed: 1600 MHz Manufacturer: Kingston Serial Number: XX1BE8XX Asset Tag: A1_AssetTagNum3 Part Number: KHX1866C10D3/8G Rank: 2 I think, they must have the same capabilities, and same properties. But of course, I cannot be 100% sure about them. |
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 11:29pm |
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I was able to read the SPD also under linux with decode-dimms, and I must say that they are identical
(except manufactoring date + serial number)
Decoding EEPROM: /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/eeprom/0-0050 Guessing DIMM is in bank 1 ---=== SPD EEPROM Information ===--- EEPROM CRC of bytes 0-116 OK (0x016F) # of bytes written to SDRAM EEPROM 176 Total number of bytes in EEPROM 256 Fundamental Memory type DDR3 SDRAM Module Type UDIMM ---=== Memory Characteristics ===--- Fine time base 1.000 ps Medium time base 0.125 ns Maximum module speed 1777MHz (PC3-14222) Size 8192 MB Banks x Rows x Columns x Bits 8 x 16 x 10 x 64 Ranks 2 SDRAM Device Width 8 bits tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS 9-10-9-28 Supported CAS Latencies (tCL) 13T, 11T, 10T, 9T, 8T, 7T, 6T, 5T ---=== Timing Parameters ===--- Minimum Write Recovery time (tWR) 15.000 ns Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD) 5.000 ns Minimum Active to Auto-Refresh Delay (tRC) 44.750 ns Minimum Recovery Delay (tRFC) 260.000 ns Minimum Write to Read CMD Delay (tWTR) 7.500 ns Minimum Read to Pre-charge CMD Delay (tRTP) 7.500 ns Minimum Four Activate Window Delay (tFAW) 27.000 ns ---=== Optional Features ===--- Operable voltages 1.5V RZQ/6 supported? Yes RZQ/7 supported? Yes DLL-Off Mode supported? Yes Operating temperature range 0-95C Refresh Rate in extended temp range 1X Auto Self-Refresh? No On-Die Thermal Sensor readout? No Partial Array Self-Refresh? No Thermal Sensor Accuracy Not implemented SDRAM Device Type Standard Monolithic ---=== Physical Characteristics ===--- Module Height (mm) 30 Module Thickness (mm) 2 front, 2 back Module Width (mm) 133.5 Module Reference Card B ---=== Manufacturer Data ===--- Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W43 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX2C09XX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Decoding EEPROM: /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/eeprom/0-0051 Guessing DIMM is in bank 2 ---=== SPD EEPROM Information ===--- EEPROM CRC of bytes 0-116 OK (0x016F) # of bytes written to SDRAM EEPROM 176 Total number of bytes in EEPROM 256 Fundamental Memory type DDR3 SDRAM Module Type UDIMM ---=== Memory Characteristics ===--- Fine time base 1.000 ps Medium time base 0.125 ns Maximum module speed 1777MHz (PC3-14222) Size 8192 MB Banks x Rows x Columns x Bits 8 x 16 x 10 x 64 Ranks 2 SDRAM Device Width 8 bits tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS 9-10-9-28 Supported CAS Latencies (tCL) 13T, 11T, 10T, 9T, 8T, 7T, 6T, 5T ---=== Timing Parameters ===--- Minimum Write Recovery time (tWR) 15.000 ns Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD) 5.000 ns Minimum Active to Auto-Refresh Delay (tRC) 44.750 ns Minimum Recovery Delay (tRFC) 260.000 ns Minimum Write to Read CMD Delay (tWTR) 7.500 ns Minimum Read to Pre-charge CMD Delay (tRTP) 7.500 ns Minimum Four Activate Window Delay (tFAW) 27.000 ns ---=== Optional Features ===--- Operable voltages 1.5V RZQ/6 supported? Yes RZQ/7 supported? Yes DLL-Off Mode supported? Yes Operating temperature range 0-95C Refresh Rate in extended temp range 1X Auto Self-Refresh? No On-Die Thermal Sensor readout? No Partial Array Self-Refresh? No Thermal Sensor Accuracy Not implemented SDRAM Device Type Standard Monolithic ---=== Physical Characteristics ===--- Module Height (mm) 30 Module Thickness (mm) 2 front, 2 back Module Width (mm) 133.5 Module Reference Card B ---=== Manufacturer Data ===--- Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W43 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX2CF3XX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Decoding EEPROM: /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/eeprom/0-0052 Guessing DIMM is in bank 3 ---=== SPD EEPROM Information ===--- EEPROM CRC of bytes 0-116 OK (0x016F) # of bytes written to SDRAM EEPROM 176 Total number of bytes in EEPROM 256 Fundamental Memory type DDR3 SDRAM Module Type UDIMM ---=== Memory Characteristics ===--- Fine time base 1.000 ps Medium time base 0.125 ns Maximum module speed 1777MHz (PC3-14222) Size 8192 MB Banks x Rows x Columns x Bits 8 x 16 x 10 x 64 Ranks 2 SDRAM Device Width 8 bits tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS 9-10-9-28 Supported CAS Latencies (tCL) 13T, 11T, 10T, 9T, 8T, 7T, 6T, 5T ---=== Timing Parameters ===--- Minimum Write Recovery time (tWR) 15.000 ns Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD) 5.000 ns Minimum Active to Auto-Refresh Delay (tRC) 44.750 ns Minimum Recovery Delay (tRFC) 260.000 ns Minimum Write to Read CMD Delay (tWTR) 7.500 ns Minimum Read to Pre-charge CMD Delay (tRTP) 7.500 ns Minimum Four Activate Window Delay (tFAW) 27.000 ns ---=== Optional Features ===--- Operable voltages 1.5V RZQ/6 supported? Yes RZQ/7 supported? Yes DLL-Off Mode supported? Yes Operating temperature range 0-95C Refresh Rate in extended temp range 1X Auto Self-Refresh? No On-Die Thermal Sensor readout? No Partial Array Self-Refresh? No Thermal Sensor Accuracy Not implemented SDRAM Device Type Standard Monolithic ---=== Physical Characteristics ===--- Module Height (mm) 30 Module Thickness (mm) 2 front, 2 back Module Width (mm) 133.5 Module Reference Card B ---=== Manufacturer Data ===--- Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W33 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX1B0BXX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Decoding EEPROM: /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/eeprom/0-0053 Guessing DIMM is in bank 4 ---=== SPD EEPROM Information ===--- EEPROM CRC of bytes 0-116 OK (0x016F) # of bytes written to SDRAM EEPROM 176 Total number of bytes in EEPROM 256 Fundamental Memory type DDR3 SDRAM Module Type UDIMM ---=== Memory Characteristics ===--- Fine time base 1.000 ps Medium time base 0.125 ns Maximum module speed 1777MHz (PC3-14222) Size 8192 MB Banks x Rows x Columns x Bits 8 x 16 x 10 x 64 Ranks 2 SDRAM Device Width 8 bits tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS 9-10-9-28 Supported CAS Latencies (tCL) 13T, 11T, 10T, 9T, 8T, 7T, 6T, 5T ---=== Timing Parameters ===--- Minimum Write Recovery time (tWR) 15.000 ns Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD) 5.000 ns Minimum Active to Auto-Refresh Delay (tRC) 44.750 ns Minimum Recovery Delay (tRFC) 260.000 ns Minimum Write to Read CMD Delay (tWTR) 7.500 ns Minimum Read to Pre-charge CMD Delay (tRTP) 7.500 ns Minimum Four Activate Window Delay (tFAW) 27.000 ns ---=== Optional Features ===--- Operable voltages 1.5V RZQ/6 supported? Yes RZQ/7 supported? Yes DLL-Off Mode supported? Yes Operating temperature range 0-95C Refresh Rate in extended temp range 1X Auto Self-Refresh? No On-Die Thermal Sensor readout? No Partial Array Self-Refresh? No Thermal Sensor Accuracy Not implemented SDRAM Device Type Standard Monolithic ---=== Physical Characteristics ===--- Module Height (mm) 30 Module Thickness (mm) 2 front, 2 back Module Width (mm) 133.5 Module Reference Card B ---=== Manufacturer Data ===--- Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W33 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX1BE8XX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Number of SDRAM DIMMs detected and decoded: 4 |
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 12:57am |
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Ok. Here's what I'd like you to check and or correct.
Below is what I was interested in. Well, ok enough now that I look at what you just posted. Bank 1 Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W43 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX2C09XX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Bank 2 Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W43 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX2CF3XX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Bank 3 Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W33 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX1B0BXX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Bank 4 Module Manufacturer Kingston Manufacturing Location Code 0x07 Manufacturing Date 2015-W33 Assembly Serial Number 0xXX1BE8XX Part Number KHX1866C10D3/8G Note in the above the highlighted RED Year-Week Codes of the four sticks. I'd like you to separate these out into pairs. 2015-W33 as one pair, 2015-W43 as another pair. Put a small piece of tape on the side of the heat spreader on one pair to distinguish them from the other pair. This gets them into as close of pairings as I'm aware as you didn't answer what these sticks came to you as. Just four loose sticks or as kits. I'm not familiar with how Linux enumerates memory Slot/Bank numbers so I'm asking you to bear with me as I'm proceeding how I know will determine/help us both, my way unfortunately. Put the W43 sticks in slots A1 and B1, with the W43 pair in A2 and B2. Side Note: Oh. Do these have XMP Profiles programmed on them, do you know? Ok, With them in the slots as I asked above go ahead and fire her up. Post back afterwards please and we'll continue from knowing what happens when you fire her up this way. |
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 12:59am |
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Sorry. I just re-read. Came as individual sticks.
Proceed as I asked above. |
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 1:32am |
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Hi,
first, thanks for your effort. I tested, but unfortunately it didn't help. I mean, the PC will not post. In any combination (with 2 pieces) it posts, and it shows correctly 1866 (if I set the timing to AUTO) But if all 4 banks are filled (in any order!) it wont posts, until I change the timing manually to 1600. I'm pretty sure now that the BIOS has some issues with this. |
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