RAID 10 and windows 10 (NVMe troubles)

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so i have a new build with
AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 
MSI GTX 1050 Ti 
ASRock AB350 Pro 4 MB
120 GB M.2 NVMe with the OS
4 2TB HDDs that i want to set up in RAID 10

   so...
I successfully RAID 10'd them in the bios ( and switched back to SATA mode before you ask) they don't show up in windows besides in the disk manager where they show as normal partitions and not as striped or mirrored drives. 
these do NOT show up in windows file explorer.
I tried downloading the AMD RAID Driver and RAIDXpert utility ver:17.40_RAIDXpert from the ASRock website and AMD but both gives me this error: OS is booted on NVMe volume and upgrading the driver will make the drive unbootable; so aborting the installation.  
I've tried everything i can think of guys! please help?

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AngelAbaddon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2018 Location: ohio Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote AngelAbaddon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: RAID 10 and windows 10 (NVMe troubles) Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 1:40am
	so i have a new build with AMD Ryzen 7 1800x MSI GTX 1050 Ti ASRock AB350 Pro 4 MB 120 GB M.2 NVMe with the OS 4 2TB HDDs that i want to set up in RAID 10 so... I successfully RAID 10'd them in the bios ( and switched back to SATA mode before you ask) they don't show up in windows besides in the disk manager where they show as normal partitions and not as striped or mirrored drives. these do NOT show up in windows file explorer. I tried downloading the AMD RAID Driver and RAIDXpert utility ver:17.40_RAIDXpert from the ASRock website and AMD but both gives me this error: OS is booted on NVMe volume and upgrading the driver will make the drive unbootable; so aborting the installation. I've tried everything i can think of guys! please help?

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 4:14am
	AngelAbaddon, what does 'switched back to SATA mode' mean? SATA mode should be set to RAID and NVMe RAID mode should be set to Disabled. Please post a complete set of your specifications as I have in my signature. Please include the OS, and BIOS/UEFI versions. Thanks and enjoy, John.
	Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD

AngelAbaddon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2018 Location: ohio Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote AngelAbaddon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 10:31pm
	means i have set it both to RAID mode and SATA mode to no avail... i mean... i feel like i have included all relevant information the first go round but... AMD Ryzen 7 1800x MSI GTX 1050 Ti ASRock AB350 Pro 4 MB 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws RAM 120 GB M.2 NVMe with the OS 4 2TB HDDs SEAGATE BARRACUDA that i want to set up in RAID 10 and Win 10 home here is a link to more info should you need it

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 12:49am
	AngelAbaddon, please DL SATA Floppy Image ver:8.1.0.75 from the ASRock site ( https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#Download ), extract it and for each .inf file, right click and select install. Then reboot into BIOS/UEFI, set SATA Mode to RAID then F10 and see if you can see your RAID10. Please let us hear. Enjoy, John. EDIT: Thanks for the link - was useful. I should have said earlier that AMD has released the code necessary to build and use X399 style RAIDs including NVMe and SATA drives. ASRock has not release a BIOS/UEFI with the AMD support. Edited by MisterJ - 21 Feb 2018 at 2:59am
	Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD

AngelAbaddon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2018 Location: ohio Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote AngelAbaddon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 4:02am
	thank you for telling me to install the inf files. previously i had tried to use the installers... anyways, now that they are installed i have the RAIDxpert utility in the UEFI. i used that to make an array. however my OS still doesn't seem to recognize it... am i missing something?

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 5:12am
	AngelAbaddon, do you have SATA Mode set to RAID? If not, please do. Enjoy, John.
	Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD

AngelAbaddon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2018 Location: ohio Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote AngelAbaddon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 2:49pm
	Yes thank you for all your help so far btw

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 12:55am
	You are very welcome, AngelAbaddon. I am glad to help, but sorry we have not solved your problems. Have you installed RAIDXpert2 (RX2)on W10? If not please do and please use the one from your ASRock AB350 Pro 4 DL page. I suspect we are at the end of the road. Assuming you cannot install RX2 or see your RAID when you do, then I think you will have few choices. You can either wait until ASRock releases a BIOS/UEFI supporting the new RAID (same as X399) or you will need to move your OS to a SATA drive. You could move it to the RAID10. Before you go this far, I will recommend you open an AMD support ticket and ask about your setup. Right now I am thinking that AMD cannot support a SATA RAID when you are booting from an NVMe device. I also believe AMD will not fix this on this version of RAID. I suspect they are counting on board vendors (eg. ASRock) to release the needed UEFI to support the final RAID. When that happens you will have to backup all your RAID10 data and then restore it to a newly created RAID10 created after updating to the new UEFI. RAID on Ryzen/Threadripper has been and continues to be a really bad problem - poor design/implementation and atrocious documentation. AMD should be ashamed! Please ask any questions you may have. Good luck and enjoy, John.
	Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD

AngelAbaddon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 20 Feb 2018 Location: ohio Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote AngelAbaddon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 8:47pm
	yes i cannot install RX2 on my NVMe. i thank you again, John,for your help and do hope ASRock / AMD make the issues running the OS on NVME more clear to potential buyers...

MisterJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1097	Post Options Post Reply Quote MisterJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 2018 at 12:09am
	I hope so too, AngelAbaddon. Please do open a ticket with AMD support to make sure there is no cure for this until the X399 type RAID is available. Thanks and enjoy, John.
	Fat1 X399 Pro Gaming, TR 1950X, RAID0 3xSamsung SSD 960 EVO, G.SKILL FlareX F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Win 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.00, 2xHDDs WD