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SoniC 
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 Posted: 08 Nov 2017 at 4:52am |
Or maybe they just certified it at that speed cause this is currently the max it can run stable... We don't know without insiders knowledge... I really wish one of the AMD gurus like R. Hallock would reply to our queries... If we have reached the limit I would like to know it and not beeing kept in the dark... I _honestly_ hope that the TR can do at least on par with RyZEN (especially due to the link between memory speed and infinity fabric)... All this blabber about premium product, only pre-selected dies that go into the TRs blablabla... Yes, cores overclock better with lower voltages, but memory controller? Goddamn... I would gladly revert to dual-channel if it could do 3200+ on 4 dual sided sticks like RyZEN does. P.S. I did another experiment and populated the other banks against ASRock recommendation. With four sticks they recommend to populate D2 C2 A2 and B2. I populated the "1's". It boots, mem compatybility even worse. But what I've noticed that on the "1's" it restarts at least properly and reverts to stock mem settings (like it does on X370 FPG). On the LED display it goes in a loop, then restarts at the "d0" code three times (or x-times according to UEFI fail safe settings) and afterwards boot with stock mem. settings. All other settings remain in UEFI as set. 4 Sticks in "2's" and it never restarts properly & reverts to the stock mem speeds. Every time I try I need to reset CMOS. It goes through three or four loops (I can distinguish a loop when it starts to display "00" and the fans start to spin-up for a short sec.) and then it remains hung at some of the error codes, mostly 54-55* (mem-related). For me it seems to be another bug... and no, it is not new. It was always there with every UEFI version.
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Posted: 08 Nov 2017 at 4:19am |
2933 is the same top speed for the theadripper optimized newly release flare x-wondering if maybe the theadripper IMC tops off at that frequenct regardless of the AGESA implementation |
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SoniC
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Posted: 08 Nov 2017 at 4:08am |
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No need to thank me John...
I do it for myself and also doesn't harm to share the results with others "not completely satisfied customers" of AMD/MoBo Manufacturer = whoever is to blame here - I don't want to finger-point. So the results are in after the testing of ver 1.80.: 1.80 BIOS : Same old, same old.... Virtually nothing changed for me... nothing... nada. On my 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws V kit the 3200 speed is still unreachable. 4 sticks, Sammy B-die. The only stable speed is 2933. Move along, nothing to see/cherish here... Edited by SoniC - 08 Nov 2017 at 4:10am |
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Posted: 08 Nov 2017 at 12:49am |
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Great! Thanks much SoniC! Enjoy, John.
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SoniC
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Posted: 07 Nov 2017 at 2:22pm |
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New AGESA out with BIOS 1.80 for the X399 boards, changelog:
Update AGESA to 1.0.0.4 Testing will follow today in the evening.
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Posted: 20 Oct 2017 at 11:24am |
While AMD apparently feels it is fine to throw the mother board manufacture "under the bus", and make it their responsibility, I know that ASRock will not do the same to AMD. ASRock may know why it won't work, but won't reveal it is AMD's problem, if it actually is. Of course, how could either party explain and prove why it can, should, or will work or not work without going into a highly technical explanation that is beyond most user's understanding. Yes, a board should be able to work at the specs provided by the processor manufacture, which has never been a problem with Intel processor boards using DDR4 memory. DDR4 memory over clocks on Intel boards are simple compared to Ryzen. When AMD themselves said 128GB works at 2133, while the TR processor stock guaranteed spec is 2400, that was an acceptable response? |
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Posted: 20 Oct 2017 at 7:33am |
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Posted: 20 Oct 2017 at 5:44am |
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Share the YT link, I could ask him.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 8:39pm |
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yesterday while borwsing youtube
i did in fact try and find some extra info/tips about the 128gb issue wow ! it would seem most uploads would love to ONLY have an issue with 128gb, as theres so many complaining about even getting 4 channels single sticks working (eg 4 x 8 gb) i did find one guy who managed 8 sticks of gskill tridentz and 128gb, who said he was stuck at 7 sticks for ages and it was a nightmare of epic magnatude to get the 8th working alas he continued to spend the rest of the video showing off stupid rgb lights and poncy glass case rather than share his experiance with what he actually managed to get set to make it work i do not have a you tube account so i couldnt ask him to detail some advice on a work around for the 8th stick |
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Posted: 19 Oct 2017 at 8:04am |
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I had a phone conversation with AMD support today. They have tried 128 GB and it works at 2133 MHz - memory and board not stated. They made it clear this is really a main board vendor task. In our case ASRock should test and qualify memory to be used and I assume when it does not work for a user, ASRock should fix or explain why it does not work. As I expected, I got no information about future AGESA/BIOS or any ramifications of Ryzen 1.0.0.7. We are in a wait and see as we have been. Enjoy, John.
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