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    Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:



All we are is dust in the wind.


Hehe, nice try and thanks, now I have the song stuck in my head Tongue

Kansas, what an awesome band Cool

@Oz666

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I saw Ozzie at at the smallish Wings Stadium in Kalamazoo.

That's the date and venue Ozzie and Sharon became engaged to each other.


https://twitter.com/MrsSOsbourne/status/655043432985989120/photo/1



Edited to add a long ago pic of Oz and Sharon.


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Originally posted by Oz666 Oz666 wrote:

I'm so old that I fart dust.


Easy there Pops.

All we are is dust in the wind.

I was 19 when those words made it onto vinyl. That ought'a confuse the kiddies amongst us.
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You are both quite likely correct - and I was whining a bit, mostly caused by not have a box full (or in fact any) spare memory or other parts like I am used to. Like back in the dark ages when I only had one computer so if I broke something I had to go to a friends house to dl a patch or a program or a driver - with a modem! Ha! I'm so old that I fart dust.
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I think the issue comes from the fact that we have somewhat of a generational jump in DDR4. When it hit the market initially you needed an X99 board to run it and it remained restricted to that platform till Skylake hit. Up till Skylake all kits were designed for enthusiast boards but when a consumer grade product line hit the market suddenly they needed to make it more affordable. I still see DDR4 on some eStores here going for up to $400 US for a 4x4gb kit, obviously older stock but then you see a kit 2x8gb kit close to 1000mhz faster for a quarter the price. While supply and demand certainly play a role I am fairly certain there have been some physical changes and tweaks made to improve production efficiency and allow for higher clocks. Add to that that kits build for Skylake systems do not need to be tested in quad channel and it starts to become clearer where these issues could stem from.

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Glad you have it running well now.

DDR4 is new, so I'm not surprised a few bugs with it are being found.

Still, given the few platforms that can use DDR4, I'm surprised there are enough differences in the memory designs that UEFI/BIOS updates are needed.

My experience with DDR4 has been fine so far. I've mixed two kits of (the same model) Crucial DDR4 memory on my ASRock X99 board, and they work fine and OC decently too.

The G.SKILL Trident Z 3200 I use on my Z170 Extreme7+ board ran perfect with its XMP2 settings, and OC'd to 3600 on stock voltages.
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After a few crashes, it now seems to be stable at 3625 - cores and cache, memory at 3000, 100% cpu load. I will let it burn in there for a day or two while I read the OC threads and search for the best completely stable performance point.
BTW, running about 62ºC on air- it should make my customer happy, it's in a thermatake core v71 case and I'm jealous.
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That sure beats
Originally posted by Oz666 Oz666 wrote:

So now I am left with:
1 - the second lot of memory I purchased is defective
2 - the memory slots on the mb are defective
3 - the memory controller on the mb is defective
4 - the memory controller on the cpu is defective
5 - the bios is defective
6 - the new from box 750w ps is defective (this I can check)



Depending on when you might want to up the memory in that skeet target, there is a newly released Beta BIOS, L2.05 Dated Dec 3 2015, that again updates "Improve DRAM compatibility" !

Have fun and enjoy.
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Success!

As posited by others, a bios update fixed the no boot issues I experienced. (1.90 -> 2.10) However, I did have to install slower memory to get a bootup so that a bios flash was possible. (2x8GB of adata 2133 was installed) the 4 x 8GB of geil potenza 3000 are now running at 3000 may try for 3200, only a 6.66% upclock... if anyone is interested - say so and I will post clocks, timings and temps after burn in amd a bit of tweaking

Thanks again for the help and suggestions - really bites that the faster memory wouldn't boot without the bios update that was needed to get the system to boot so that one could do a bios update. I have had similar issues before, but it's been a long time.

FYI, if you are flashing from a USB, use the port in the corner of the board by DDR4_C1, recognized immediately.

Now the work begins.


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