Ryzen 5600g question

I remember those days too, even way back when I unpacked my socket 7 abit AN7 I wondered why the anti-static bag was sealed never seemed to be a good reason for it to me lol. I do miss those old socket 7 systems though, the nforce2 chipset was something to be reckoned with and for its day the nforce audio was absolutely stellar as well. Still makes me sad nvidia stopped producing and investing in that I think PC audio would be quite a bit further along today if they kept on with it.

Xaltar wrote: If memory serves, the BIOS ROM chips used in the socketed setup were discontinued and there were no longer any reliable suppliers. When I looked into it you could still purchase them but only in small consignments (less than 1000). The older ROMs were also supposedly slower by comparison to the newer ones. Now that was the standard capacity of the time, larger capacity variants are still readily available as far as I know. Even with the flashback issue, I still stand by ASRock. They have their ups and downs but the guys behind the designs and manufacturing really do try hard to meet the demands of their consumers. Time and again I see people complain about something here on the forums (and likely support tickets too) only to see the problem addressed/improved on the next board iteration. The fact that I can send a support ticket on a 12 year old ASRock board and still get a helpful reply is the other main reason I use their products. Another brand replied and told me I should upgrade my system (I test support channels like this regularly). That is not something someone still stuck with a 10 year old board needs or wants to be told. Here's hoping ASRock pay attention the the flashback issue and address that in upcoming board models too.

Indeed DIP type ROMs don't seem to be produced now but that doesn't mean the SOIC ROMs need to be soldered ;) The first idea that pops to my mind as an engineer is to design a simple housed socket with door latch and contact pads that are directly soldered to the pads on the PCB, the other end of those contact pads are then the contact points for the feet of the SOIC ROM, the SOIC ROM itself is then secured in place using said door. Simples :D

I know the R&D guys try hard the guys in the BIOS department and the hardware engineers have always got back to me super fast weather I've asked them something directly or through you (if you are who I think you are that is lol) and the main reason why Asrock earned my support back in the P67 days and is why I helped them out with Z68 and Z77, their willingness to listen and improve is why Asrock are pretty high on my list I think the last time I contacted them was for an X470 Fatal1ty review I wrote, the board was quite nice but at the time of review at least no CPU LLC options in the firmware and a disappointing voltage regulator compared to what the X370 Fatal1ty used hurt the X470 Fatal1ty a fair bit. Heres hoping all Asrocks X570s boards have firmware flashback that feature is a win for everybody on both sides.

killer8 wrote: But is it 5700-G 5600-G ready now, on current retail shipping boards?

The B550M Pro4 won't support any of the new APUs without first being updated to firmware P1.80 so you'd need to check with where you buy first that the stock they have is updated to at least this version.

b550 will be ryzen 5xxx ready

If memory serves, the BIOS ROM chips used in the socketed setup were discontinued
and there were no longer any reliable suppliers. When I looked into it you could
still purchase them but only in small consignments (less than 1000). The older
ROMs were also supposedly slower by comparison to the newer ones. Now that was the
standard capacity of the time, larger capacity variants are still readily available
as far as I know.

Even with the flashback issue, I still stand by ASRock. They have their ups and
downs but the guys behind the designs and manufacturing really do try hard to
meet the demands of their consumers. Time and again I see people complain about
something here on the forums (and likely support tickets too) only to see the
problem addressed/improved on the next board iteration. The fact that I can send
a support ticket on a 12 year old ASRock board and still get a helpful reply is
the other main reason I use their products. Another brand replied and told me
I should upgrade my system (I test support channels like this regularly). That
is not something someone still stuck with a 10 year old board needs or wants to
be told.

Here's hoping ASRock pay attention the the flashback issue and address that in
upcoming board models too.

Edited by Xaltar - 17 Jun 2021 at 11:11pm

If they would socket the firmware flashmemory, there would be less need for "FlashBack" CPU-less flashing feature.

One could flash the memory on a secondary PC and plug it back in.