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X99 Extreme 4/3.1 - wrong firmware flashed |
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wardog ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447 |
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So are we all here. Keep us posted. |
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gravelc ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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They've asked for the mobo back:
"For any other solution, we'll need to board back, as per our Service Centre request. We can certainly waive any labour charges as we need to find out how this happened." Doesn't bother me how it happened - I'm only interested in verification that it did happen, so I can get a replacement. I've offered to just take my PC in without dismantling it - in hindsight, it's pretty easy to see it's wrong without having to pull the mobo out. If no dice there, it's on to consumer protection, which is unequivocal in Australia: "A product or good has a major problem when it is significantly different from the sample or description. You can ask for a replacement or refund if the problem with the product is major." I'm hoping it will be all sorted amicably. |
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Online Points: 26933 |
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Best of luck to you
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gravelc ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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I have emailed Umart and asked for a replacement mobo with matching serial number to the box it's supplied in (so I know it's new).
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Online Points: 26933 |
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If it is still under warranty you shouldn't accept the credit, you need to demand they replace the product. If you have all your receipts and documentation that is. As I said in my last post, get them to look up the serial number of the board you have on their system, if it came from their store they should have a record of it, if they do then that proves that they made a mistake and gave you the wrong board for your box. Unfortunately, if it was a return where the previous owner swapped out the board then it will be impossible to prove.
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gravelc ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Umart have offered me AU$30 store credit. Not sure whether to take it or not. There is a US$69 price difference between the two in Newegg, but Umart don't sell the older version, so can't compare the local price difference.
Also, I did receive the USB3.1 card, which is worth something. Plugging a Samsung T3 USB3.1 drive into it results in a BSOD every time, but that's a whole other issue, and probably not related to the mobo version (I think). |
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parsec ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996 |
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I can confirm on a different ASRock board (Z87 Extreme6) that the yellow sticker on the RJ45 Ethernet port has the board's serial number on it. That board happens to be in its box, so it was easy to check both at the same time. The serial number on the yellow sticker matched exactly the serial number on the large sticker on the board's box. Both the mother board and this sticker said "Made In China". I can add some speculation based upon other information that I know to be true. Vietnam production of ASRock boards is relatively new. My ASRock Z170 Extreme7+ board was made in Vietnam, according to the board's label and the label on its box. X99 boards in general are in production longer than most other Intel chipset boards, because the Intel HEDT platform is designed to work with two processor generations. In this case, Haswell-E and Broadwell-E. The original production of the X99 Extreme4, whose first UEFI/BIOS date is 8/8/2014, is quite likely China. The X99 Extreme4/3.1 has a first UEFI/BIOS date of 3/30/2015. The first UEFI/BIOS date of one ASRock Z170 board that still had the first version available for download, is 6/30/2015. IMO, it is very likely that the X99 Extreme4/3.1 boards were made in Vietnam. So what happened to you and your board? Did someone buy an X99 Extreme4/3.1 board, that already had an X99 Extreme4 (China production) board, swapped his old board into the box, kept the new one, and returned it to UMart? You said the box was sealed when you got it, was that with clear cellophane wrap around the entire box? Or was it with clear or opaque, round, sticky seals that you see on some boxes? If it was clear cellophane wrap around the entire box, it is possible for a store to rewrap a box in what is called shrink wrap. I worked at a big retailer in the USA, and watched a lady I worked with many times working on re-wrap, putting clear, cellophane "shrink wrap" around boxes. It came in large rolls, which was wrapped around the box, the three open edges sealed with a heated clamp device, and then the "bag" of cellophane she just made around the box was shrunk tight with a heat gun, like a hair dryer. This was done to boxes containing kids toys, when the cellophane was torn by little fingers, etc. They did not do that to returned items. Do I know if UMart does rewrap like that? No I don't, no idea whatsoever. Just saying I know it is possible, I've seen it personally. While you know your board is not what it should be, I noticed something else in the pictures of these two boards on ASRock's website. The original X99 Extreme4 board has small text above the PCIE2 slot that says, "REV. 1.00". The newer X99 Extreme4/3.1 board has "REV. 1.04" in the same location. I highly doubt that any X99 Extreme4/3.1 board would not have "REV. 1.04" on it. Good luck dealing with UMart, that is one weird situation. ![]() |
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gravelc ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Is the SN alright - same format and is the yellow sticker in the image from the last post. Definitely the serial number on the box and mobo itself do not match.
Interestingly, the mobo says 'made in China' while the box says 'made in Vietnam' - so didn't happen at the factory step of the supply chain. |
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wardog ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447 |
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That is most likely the NIC's MAC ID displayed there. Does it somewhat match, in terms of format, what the SN on the box reads? It's possible ...... that that's the SN ASRock > Support > SN Finding: http://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=FindSN |
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Xaltar ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 May 2015 Location: Europe Status: Online Points: 26933 |
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There are numerous reasons it could happen ranging from mistaken packaging in the factory to the reseller accidentally or purposefully mixing up packaging when testing the board (some test most don't). Regardless of the reason, if Umart refuses an exchange try contacting ASRock Tech Support directly, I am sure they will help you out. This is not the first time I have seen a board not match the packaging, however in the other instance (here on the forums) the board was purchased used and clearly the previous owner had removed the sticker covering the screen printed model number.
In some cases several board models will use the same base PCB, sometimes the PCB may have already been screen printed with a different model number so the manufacturer covers it with a sticker with the correct designation. It is quite common for users to remove this sticker and try to pass off the board as a more expensive model, this happens with most manufacturers in my experience. This could not be the case in your situation, the board layout is actually different. It must have been miss packaged at some point. The only concern I have is the mismatched serial number, that could cause issues (accusations that you swapped out the board). Hopefully it is not an issue. Most decent resellers check to make sure the numbers match at the point of sale/shipping but if Umart does not then you may be OK. Again, contact ASRock directly if you run into problems. [edit] Also, have Umart run the serial number of the board you have (the one on the board itself) if they have it on record that should be enough to convince them of an error on their part. How could you swap out a board with another one they have in stock or sold to someone else, they may even try to contact whoever got the other (correct) board for your packaging.
Edited by Xaltar - 14 Aug 2016 at 4:25pm |
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