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l4nce0 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2016 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Know what. I am not 14 any more. I just do not have the time to tweak settings. I have been at this for 5 or so hours. I think it is clear m.2 is just too immature, and no one should be recommending this chip on unproven boards. To my internet counterparts trying to decide if you should but this or something else. Save your money. I am going back to PC microcenter and getting a 1080 instead.
I will note I say this as a senior engineer that builds 3d printers for fun. This isn't a matter of me not googling and trying 20 different solutions. If I had to guess Samsung lied about it being a PCIe varient of M.2 Or the slot on my board just doesn't work. Rant over.. Thanks for the help guys. But this just isn't worth 1, the 500 bucks on a flipping SSD. or 2 my time.
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l4nce0 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2016 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Alas I had already tried changing everything to UEFI Only.
Though I am looking at the specs. The 960 evo is rated at 3.2 GBps. The m.2 normal is rated at 6 Gbps. Notice that little B vs big B. This is a big issue if the 960 runs at 25.6 Gbps (little b) and I can only read it at 6 Gbps. Seriously. What is wrong with this board, there is no reason it shouldn't be reading this chip! Interesting. Though as you say the 850 is not the same, at this is the 960.
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wardog ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447 |
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Thus they get their lanes from the PCH, as they are shared with the normal SATA ports
The Ultra M.2 gets it's lanes directly from the PCIe bus and as such is much faster. But, again, it does consume resources. 4 PCIe lanes of whatever your CPU is capable of providing |
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wardog ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447 |
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Careful you're comparing apples to apples. The 850 EVO's are actually SATA III based speed drives, whereas the 850 Pro's are actually PCIe 3.0 x4 based speed drives. An 850 EVO would perform at speed in a standard M.2 slot w/o loss. An 850 Pro would need the Ultra M.2 slot to perform at speed. |
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wardog ![]() Moderator Group ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447 |
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With it in the Ultra M.2 slot:
Go into the BIOS > CSM > and set Launch Storage OpROM Policy setting to UEFI Only Save and Exit, Rebooting Re-enter the BIOS |
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l4nce0 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2016 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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This is strange... I can detect it in my normal M2 slot. Not my M2 Ultra. I already tried musical chairs with my video card.. maybe I needed to try some of the other slots... Obviously using m2 is not an option as I need my sata bus, AND I am paying all this for top speed.
Looking at this post I see there is talk about some samsungs not being "true" pcie. http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1496&PN=2&title=samsung-950pro-not-detected-on-ultra-m2 Looking on the spec sheet, the EVO is a PCIe 3.0 http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/ssd960.html
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l4nce0 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2016 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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I have the bios updated. Everything except my top video card and RAM is uninstalled. The graphical hardware map does not show anything. Launching windows via disc does not show anything. Saw some posts where it said it try to install f6flpy driver, windows did not accept it. There is some nonsense yammering about windows on a thumbdrive, which I do not have, just the disc.
I reseated the drive into the m.2 ultra with no success. Nothing seems to be working. ARGH.
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l4nce0 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2016 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Negative. I have installed bios 3.2. The m2 module is not detected. So I have no idea what I am to do now.
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parsec ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996 |
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Actually, the few people like yourself that want to use the correct terminology, like M key and B key, are basically ignored by the manufactures of these drives. I assume the manufactures think using the M and B key terms confuses buyers, when that is unnecessary in most cases, and may prevent sales. People would see the 'M' or 'B' key spec and wonder, as you did, if their board's M.2 slot supports the key type of the drive. Most M.2 ports are B and M compatible, but some aren't. You're fine, and as long as you know the M.2 slot supports PCIe/NVMe (M) and SATA (B), those terms are more self explanatory. There is more to the confusion than the acronyms. A few early, pre-NVMe PCIe SSDs like the Samsung XP941 and SM951 (non-NVMe version) and Plextor M6e are not SATA M.2 SSDs. They are M key, but their built in controllers use the standard Microsoft AHCI driver, and again are not NVMe SSDs. Simplified, M.2 SATA SSDs are B key. All other (current) M.2 SSDs are PCIe (obviously not SATA) either NVMe or AHCI, and M key. You can tell if an M.2 drive is M or B key by looking at it, M key SSDs have two notches in the connector, while M key SATA SSDs only have one notch. Examining the M.2 slot itself is not at all as easy to tell if it B, M, or both. If we really wanted to be unnecessarily specific, SATA connections are really based on PCIe 2.0 lanes, internal to the chipset that supports SATA connections. But since those lanes are not available for other uses, referring to them as SATA is the best method. |
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l4nce0 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2016 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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That's the issue with these new slots. People are not consistent with the acronyms.. I remember the same confusion when PCI-e video cards came out
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