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twf85
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I just installed some of the Flare X sticks, and they seem to be running fine @ 3200 (no BSODs yet) with the voltage at 1.35 and these settings you've mentioned on Auto. Should I be playing with those? Would it improve performance at all if I did?
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mysticjbyrd
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I wanted a new gaming rig that would last several years, sort of like my old LGA1366 system did. I had that thing for at least 6 years. It started with an i7 930, and then I upgraded it to a Xeon X5650 that I oc'd to 185 BCLK. It's actually still a fairly decent system, but it was getting long in the tooth.
I will upgrade to the last generation of Ryzen on the AM4 platform about 5 years from now, and seeing where things go from there. I suspect I will be using this Taichi for the next 7 years or so. My current setup is: CPU 1700 @ 3900 MHz LLC level 3 1.35v DDR4 TridentZ 4000 MHz @ 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34 1.368V VDDCR_SoC 1.104v VDDCR_SoC LLC = Level 5 Edited by mysticjbyrd - 05 Apr 2017 at 9:46am |
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Is "God" able, but not willing to stop evil? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God??? ??Epicurus |
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twf85
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Which CPU did you have before the 1800X?
Have you received a replacement yet? I'm wondering because I'd be interested to know if you've successfully boosted your sticks to 3200, as that seems to be a recurring issue for folks. Also, you oughta upgrade to an NVMe drive or two ;)
DOA, or did you try an update and it bricked it?
If they make enough of a splash that Intel is forced to react, it'll be better for everyone. |
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Video encoding system; mostly handbrake to e-encode video files in various formats. Also, I'm an enthusiast, and I like to experience new technology; or is this case platform architecture. This was a play system since my 4.5GHz 6600K system could do the same task, just slower.
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Asylum
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AMD Ryzen 1800x G.Skill DDR4 3866 @ 3200 Asrock Taichi X370 XFX Radeon R9 390X @ 1100/1400 2x OCZ Vertex 4 raid 0 (512gb) WD Black 1TB HDD Corsair HX1200i
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twf85
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So you weren't satisfied simply reading about it, you wanted to see for yourself? That's an intriguing reason..
I haven't gamed in years, so I'm with you on this point. It's been a little irritating trying to keep up with Ryzen news when its mostly been about gaming, thus far.
Well, it stands to reason that if the MOBO manufacturers weren't given a sufficient amount of time to develop their boards, then how could the memory manufacturers have had enough time? In other words, if there weren't fully formed MOBOs to work with, what were the memory manufacturers supposed to have used to test with?
Given your vast knowledge of computers, and this comment, I'd say that you may work in some IT related field.. True?
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parsec
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My incoming Ryzen system (next week) will be simply to really see what it's all about in real world usage.
I must say that gaming is not the only use or reason to have a PC. For those that dismiss Ryzen for not beating every Intel processor in gaming performance, your view of the world is very narrow. Ryzen processors were released for retail sale in the first week of March. Has it even been four weeks since then? To be coming to conclusions about it now is extremely premature. AMD has yet to provide updates to mother board manufactures to fix several issues, including the FMA3 instruction bug. There are other updates that won't be released until May. Who knows if those will be the last. For example: https://www.techpowerup.com/231997/amd-community-update-bios-updates-patches-performance-improvements Improvements in game performance are also beginning to appear, as games are being updated specifically for Ryzen systems. Memory compatibility has been a major issue with Ryzen, as owners know. The Ryzen memory controller is not the same as Intel's, and all existing DDR4 memory has been designed to work with the four Intel processor generations that support DDR4, the only ones that existed before Ryzen. The main problem is the timing settings, and that some of the speeds that Intel supports are not supported by Ryzen (DDR4 3000 and 3400). The XMP data for Intel systems is not compatible with Ryzen systems. One of the main questions I have is, why are the memory manufactures seemingly so behind in providing Ryzen specific memory in the marketplace? That is, plug and play memory, which we have been accustomed to for a long time. We saw some memory incompatibility between the various Intel DDR4 platforms, again caused by mismatches in the SPD and XMP data. Ryzen is far from a mature platform, all of the first generation Ryzen processors are not even available yet! I also will be building a Ryzen system to learn about it, since it will be with us for a while, and is worth getting to know. But the relationship is just getting started. |
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Maybe it will in the future games.But for most of the games we are playing now,it is naerly impossible to ask the game makers to spend time (and money) on updating a game already sold for 1~2 years .It is uneconomical.
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Ronin4740
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So, back in the early days of 386's, 486's, the Pentium and the Pentium II Intel slugged it out with AMD and Cyrix in the IBM compatible space and Motorola in the overall Personal Computer arena. As I said I'm a fan of a fair, multiple dog fight so, after buying a Microsoft Surface to replace an aging laptop around Christmas time I started to think about upgrading my desktop as well. I looked hard at prebuilt systems and nearly pulled the trigger on an Intel based Alienware system at the same time I purchased the Surface but decided to wait. Last month I started to do a bit of research related to building out a machine and that's when I learned about Ryzen. I waited patiently for the first batches of CPU's to ship and read many of the published reviews. I'd hoped the Ryzen CPU's would blow the doors off of comparable Intel processors but wasn't all that disappointed to learn that they're fast but a bit slower than comparable Intel Procs - that's the way it was in the 90's when comparing Non-Intel Procs to Intel Procs. Maybe the performance advantage Intel has over AMD's Ryzen is partially due to everything out there which runs on a PC being code optimized to run on Intel chips... Maybe it's truly a design advantage. The point is unless Ryzen sells fairly well and gains a bit more market share for AMD we'll never really know what it might be capable of because software houses won't spend their time doing any code optimization and Ryzen's legacy will be a paragraph or so on a Wikipedia page. My hope when choosing Ryzen to build a system around is that enough others will follow suit and this will energize AMD into being able to compete on a more even level with Intel through building on Ryzen's design. In my mind we ALL win when two companies like Intel and AMD are slugging it out in the same space trying to maintain or claim dominance over the other. It spurs technological innovation and drives prices down. ...and it makes me happy when I remember those early days of home computing, system building, manually setting IRQ's and booting from floppy disk :) |
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