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clubfoot ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 2016 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 246 |
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Radical_53 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 16 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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That's a totally different animal. What you're experiencing is nothing but power saving working correctly :)
It stays at 16x. Mine was at 8x with this board, and with a different GPU & board even at 4x. Whatever I do to these busses...
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datonyb ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154 |
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well the plot thickens
i did look and my rx480 reports in gpuz bus interface pcie x13 3 @x16 but then it fluctuates between 1.1 and 3 on idle it seems to stay at 1.1 and when i click the ? and run small render test it stays on 3 incidently also i checked my bios and my options have changed from the link i posted now i have options of auto gen1 gen2 very confusing ![]() |
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Yes, well I'm not on the Taichi. This is the Gaming K4, one of the two cheaper X370 offerings.
On my board, there's nothing like "AMD PBS", but only "AMD CBS" under the "advanced" tab. I will try another long & thorough CMOS clear. Is there anything that can be done for a bios flash? I've had boards that allowed for a different bios flashing method, usually started from DOS, which could result in a better and more complete flash (the short/normal method would only update parts of the bios, the other one would re-write everything). Just another idea. After that I'll hope the other GPU arrives here quickly, as I would love to get around the hassle to return the board.
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parsec ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996 |
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I can tell you that my X370 Killer SLI/ac board with a GTX 1060 is shown as PCIe 3.0 x16 in HWiNFO64. So something is clearly not right. Please try the various settings of the PCIe x16 switch option. We can't tell what the other settings besides Auto are yet, so I cannot suggest which one should be used. I have not seen another post about this issue with the X370 Taichi board yet. Apparently datonyb does not have this problem with his RX 480, but he did not say either way. In general we have occasionally seen issues with x8 instead of x16 connections with some video cards with different boards. Sometimes a UEFI/BIOS clear is the fix, but you've tried that already. When the situation is not one of limited PCIe lanes, PCIe slots not being x16 electrically, or a UEFI setting, the cause and fixes tend to be mysterious, which is why this can be a difficult issue to deal with. |
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parsec ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996 |
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Well thanks for posting that link! You could have gone into the UEFI and did a simple F12 screenshot to a USB flash drive and posted the picture, right? Further in what way have you once again showed that you don't invent things? If you read my post above, I said I was skeptical that the option was there. Not that it did not exist. As I predicted, when I said if the option exists, it would be set to 1 x 16 by default. |
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datonyb ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154 |
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ho hum
so in responce (again) please find below exactly what i described in my answer the taichi DOES IN FACT HAVE THE BIOS SWITCH 2nd set of bios pictures down the linked page 2nd picture in the set clearly showing the switch for 1x16 or 2x8 and below it auto and what i thought i quite clearly said was a suggestion to check this is not causing the problem by being set to 2x8 why it may be set to that we dont know we do know that a lot of am4 board were being sent back to dealers, maybe the board was a returned one resold by a dealer who knows ? what i do know is that before writing off the board as defective, is it that much of an issue to just go and check ? skeptical you may be parsec but once again i have showed that i dont just invent things ! heres the link of my imaginary bios setting http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/asrock-x370-taichi-amd-ryzen-am4-atx-motherboard,review-33826-2.html |
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Radical_53 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 16 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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Well, so far any program I tried reported 8x to me: GPU-Z 1.20, HWInfo64 5.51-3141 for example.
What you're saying was how I understood it, so either the board is defective, thinks that there's a second card installed in PCIe 4 or the card itself is faulty. I already ordered a different graphics card to test this. @datonyb: If you happen to find it, please let me know. I'll check my bios again, thanks.
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parsec ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4996 |
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What is telling you that your video card is running in x8 mode? The first PCIe 3.0 x16 physical slot (PCIE2) is x16 electrically, meaning 16 PCIe lanes connected to it. The second PCIe 3.0 x16 physical slot (PCIE4) is x8 electrically at all times, and will only have 8 PCIe lanes connected to it. It cannot work at x16 electrically. My X370 Killer SLI/ac board does not have an option to configure the number of electrical lanes connected to the PCIE2 or PCIE4 slots. The PCIe lane allocation is the same as your board's. There really is not any reason to have a UEFI/BIOS option for configuring the number of PCIe lanes active on the PCIE2 slot on our boards, since they are either x16 with one card, or x8 with two. Also, why would the default setting of such an option be x8 for the PCIE2 slot? The PCIE4 slot being x8 electrically by design further makes such an option useless. The X370 Taichi board also has the same PCIe 3.0 electrical lane allocation for the PCIE2 and PCIE3 slots (different numbering on the Taichi), but includes a PCIe 2.0 x16 physical, x4 electrical slot. I'm skeptical that the X370 Taichi board's UEFI has one or more options to configure the electrical lane allocation, as again the hard wiring of the electrical lanes to each slot makes those options worthless. The manuals for these boards are already out of date compared to the latest UEFI versions, so checking them is no help. There have been in the past options for setting the PCIe generation support, such as 3.0 and 2.0, but that is independent of lane allocation. If you feel certain that your video card is running in x8 mode, then given the things you've done to fix it, it's either the card or the board. Testing with a different video card would be good if possible. |
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