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Great! AGESA 1.0.0.6 has added more memory "dividers" than were available in the earlier versions. We now not only get memory speeds/frequencies that are 133MHz apart, but at one half that (67MHz effective), which allows memory speeds that were not available before now. For example: Which means some of my old posts about Ryzen memory speed capabilities are no longer correct. |
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moonstarmac
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Updated to AGESA 1.0.0.6 and my RAM now works great. Team Vulcan DDR4 3000 (2933) 16-18-18-38
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Xaltar
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Temps are down 15c under load with 53.3 set manually. I would have to guess that the system is defaulting to an excessively high value with some memory kits. The value is meant to be different for different memory. This makes a lot of sense with what we have seen with AGESA 1.0.0.6, we have seen a lot of success stories but also a lot of issues. If those of us that have issues are using kits that are not correctly set up regarding ProcODT then it all fits.
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Mike K
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Yeah, I went into overclocking this system with the mindset of how it was done on the previous platform ( I never seriously worked with an Intel based system so I'm not sure how its options compare to what I am familiar with ) I quickly realized everything I knew was now out the window ProcODT is still sort of a mystery to me, from what I have been able to dig up is the higher OHM settings require more cooling ( As an amateur electrician it makes sense - Higher OHM's mean more resistance which would be more heat generated ) But when it comes to overclocking there is just so little information to be found about how exactly this setting changes things, what it changes, and why specific settings can make memory work better or worse... I have had to scale back my Overclock personally because after updating to the newest 2.50 Agesa 1.0.0.6 (From BIOS 2.20) my motherboard (X370 K4) went from running a stable 4.0 with my memory being able to use the XMP profile, to only able to hit 3.875 CPU and Memory at 2666. I have not had a ton of time to keep tweaking it but as you said I only could get my memory off of default timings by setting ProcODT to 53.3 as well (I had to bump it up from the setting of 40 that had worked previously) Well anyway, Glad to hear your getting better performance from your system. Let me know if you come across any other tidbits of juicy info or personal experiences. |
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Xaltar
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ProcODT manually set to 53.3 ohm on my Taichi seems to have improved stability and allowed me to get 3466 to work on my 3600 kit.
I will test further but when I saved changes in the UEFI and rebooted the system booted right up, no pre training or cycling... That is the first time I have seen that happen so thanks to whoever mentioned ProcODT first, I am not sure if it was this thread or another that put me onto it but so far I think it may have sorted some of my issues We are learning all this stuff right along with you guys so thank you all for sharing
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Ryzen does not support the memory "divider" for a memory speed of 3000.
Do you see a memory speed of 3000 in the manual memory speed list in the UEFI/BIOS? DDR4 3000 is not listed in the memory specifications as a possible memory OC. The Memory Support list for your board should have an entry similar to this from my ASRock X370 board: Each RAM whose frequency is 3000 will downgrade to 2933 with X370 Killer SLI/ac The closest you can get is 2933. |
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Mike K
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You do make a good point I have booted it at .08 and .09 but It failed some stress tests, But yeah the way you put it it's a pretty decent push, But I don't think I'm near the limits of the safe zone ( from what I have read the safe Zone ends around .15 SOC ) But again don't quote me on that Edited by Mike K - 27 May 2017 at 2:42am |
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without any malice (and indeed it did chuckle to myself) but your one of the few guys to state a 25% increase to be 'tiny' would 25% increase in your tax bill still be tiny ? in context though 1.0 volts is still a small voltage for the SOC i just chuckled at the phrase tiny |
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Mike K
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I could not get my Corsair Vengeance memory to load its XMP profile or run at full speed (3000MHz) no matter what I tried or how much voltage I hit it with.
I found some information on memory overclocking and what I did to get mine working was to go into these settings. AMD CBS DRAM Timing Configuration ProcODT I set the ProcODT to 48 Ohms ( Don't quote me on this but I think AUTO is like 53.3 ) AND I also read that you should be very carful of going lower than 40 Ohms ) But after changing that setting It instantly loaded the XMP profile ( The board did not like the 15-17-17 timings so It automatically switched them to 16-17-17 ) I was also able to lower all my memory voltages back to recommended, with a tiny push to SOC voltage from .08 to .10 to get everything stable at 16-16-16-34 timings. Edited by Mike K - 27 May 2017 at 2:05am |
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My Corsair Vengeance worked at 2933 from day one. The only settings I've changed were:
OC Tweaker: Dram Frequency: DDR4 2933 Advanced\CPU Configuration: C6 Mode: Disabled Advanced\AMD CBS\Zen Common Options: Global C-state Control: Disabled Security: Secure Boot Disabled Most of these settings are for my OC profile from when I tested my CPU to see where I stood in the lottery. Even without any of the chanyes I just selected 2933 from the DRAM drop down and it worked. Edited by AlbinoRhino - 26 May 2017 at 9:08pm |
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