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Kevin A
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Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 6:48am |
I got bogged down with other issues over the last couple of weeks and did not get around to the timing tests as I had stated/indicated that I would. That is until today when I tried a few timing changes/reboots/Load Bios Defaults...and with the newly flashed ver 3.10 BIOS.
Although little can be added from my prior post, I now can confirm that not only do I always get boot DRAM errors when I attempt to use any entry on the 'OC Tweaker/DRAM Timings' screen but also with the latest BIOS I am down to 2933mhz...-sniff-, from 3066mhz with the ver 3.00 BIOS. - which was down from 3200mhz with ver 2.40/June AGESA 1.0.0.6 release. The only way I get 2400/2666/2933 to work is to leave all entries on the 'OC Tweaker/DRAM Timings' screen to 'AUTO' and then enter my timings(some sub timings as well) on the 'Advanced/AMD CBS/DRAM Timings' screen. I'll try to get images and possibly more tests this holiday(U.S.A) on Monday. Afterwards I may flash back to the version 2.40 BIOS even though I found voltage issues with that version. The 3.10 version appears to be just as stable with voltages as the 3.00 version from what I can tell over brief testing that I did today. |
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parsec
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That sounds like the AM4 Advanced Boot Training option is enabled (set to Auto = Enabled, the default). Unless your Fail Count option for the number of restarts is set to two, it is normally set to three by default. That option (in the OC Tweaker screen) usually does not help with memory stability, so you can just set it to Disabled. But yes, it is normal to have the multiple restarts when that option is enabled. |
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datonyb
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i was reading it as in he is getting this ALL the time not just first boot
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Not necessarily. In my swapping 8-9 Kits around I've see Memory Training take three or more cold boots to settle down and do as one would expect. |
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datonyb
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no it should when working correctly just start like any other pc
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If you open the SPD tab of CPU-Z, you should find a Timings Table, with a number of Frequencies at the top, and the basic timing values below them. You must select a Slot (memory slot) at the top that contains a memory module. For example: Frequency is one half of the actual speed of the memory. DDR means Dual Data Rate memory, the effective memory speed is twice the frequency. In your board's UEFI/BIOS, in the DRAM Configuration screen, do you see an entry for DRAM Tweaker? If so, that is a feature that lets you easily choose among the timings programmed into your memory. Or download Thaiphoon Burner, below, the free version, which will give you more information about your memory than you will ever need, including timing tables: http://www.softnology.biz/files.html |
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Asingo
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Common guys, some short tutorial for memory timings
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Asingo
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You could see that on my last post on first page. I am new at this memory stuff so I don`t understand yet. Where can I find timings which I will manually enter in bios for specific frequencies(2133, 2400, 2666, 2933, 3200mhz)?
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Kevin A
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Parsec, I will try to get to 're-visiting' the various attempts regarding my DDR4 Timings sometime tomorrow evening. As soon as I do I'll repost some findings. Although it seems as if you have 'heard' my issues before such as configuration settings not duplicating/changing on the other DRAM Timing configuration screen. For now iirc, when I attempted to set basic 2400,2666,etc on the OC Tweaker screen it always failed boot at those timings. I get memory errors and then it boots to the default 2133. This behavior doesn't happen on the Advanced screen/DRAM Timings. It behaves as if the original Bios template was taken from a 'dual bios' implementation, and then used in the now 'single bios' implementation found in the AsRock AM4 platform(...just an uneducated guess). Likewise on the OC Tweaker screen all configuration options are decimal, whereas on the Advanced screen some configurations are Hexadecimal. (see Pstates as well which contain both). Nevertheless I am able to run my DDR4 at 3066/1500Mt's(64GB Hynix) and more stable MOBO voltages with the latest bios and a 3.975 CPU OC. So things are ok/no major complaints! |
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