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I agree with PetrolHead on the r9 380, it is by far the better option between the two you are looking at. I am using a GTX 960 and aside from my compulsive desire to upgrade with every new generation I am very happy with it. I have the 2gb model which is a little short in some games (for high textures) so I wish I had waited for the 4gb version. The 380 is more or less equal to the 960 (win some lose some depending on game and factory overclocks on either card). Even with the reasonable pricing on the RX 480 and GTX 1060 they are still a little expensive for those on a budget. 
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Originally posted by PetrolHead PetrolHead wrote:

The GTX 950 is aimed at people who are on a budget and mainly play e-sports games such as League of Legends and CS:GO, which do not demand much from the GPU. I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone. The R9 380 beats the GTX 950 and even the GTX 960 in most gaming benchmarks and synthetic tests, so I'd say it's a lot better choice. There are differences between different AIB cards (cooling, amount of OC, quality of components), so before buying one you should read at least a few reviews. I'd go for the version with 4 GB of RAM (unless the price difference to the 2 GB model is big), since it's marginally more future proof.

Edit: Remember to compare the prices between the R9 380 4 GB model and the RX 480 4 GB model.

Man,I reckon I've read and viewed about a hundred reviews and comparisons in the last 3 hours, youtube and web based. This is such a complex arena with so many conflicting opinions, it makes me scared to actually make a decision. The only thing that makes me hesitate about the R9 380 is the hungry power needs, I'm not at the same location as my desktop right now so I can't see what spare power connections are floating around, will check in 3 days time. I have learned an enormous amount of information on gaming video cards in the past 2 days.  Many thanks to all those contributors who have taken the time to help me on this, you are gems !
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The GTX 950 is aimed at people who are on a budget and mainly play e-sports games such as League of Legends and CS:GO, which do not demand much from the GPU. I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone. The R9 380 beats the GTX 950 and even the GTX 960 in most gaming benchmarks and synthetic tests, so I'd say it's a lot better choice. There are differences between different AIB cards (cooling, amount of OC, quality of components), so before buying one you should read at least a few reviews. I'd go for the version with 4 GB of RAM (unless the price difference to the 2 GB model is big), since it's marginally more future proof.

Edit: Remember to compare the prices between the R9 380 4 GB model and the RX 480 4 GB model.


Edited by PetrolHead - 22 Jul 2016 at 4:21pm
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Due to budget constraints, I'm favouring either the GeForce GTX 950 or the Radeon R9 380.  Any comments on these two ?
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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

I would look at either a GTX 1060 or a non-reference Radeon RX 480 as best value/$ or if your budget is tight then look at an R7 360 which can be had for cheap now. Do not buy a reference RX 480 at this time as there is a good chance you could have problems with it, non reference designs however have corrected the issues the reference design suffer from.

What about the Nvidia cards ? They seem to use less power than the Radeon ones due to their newer architecture.
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I would if you didn't have a PSU already. Now I really don't know if it's worth the extra money, since it should be able to handle the GTX 1060 (and most likely the RX 480) which have been suggested. Also, I have no idea how good or bad your current PSU really is. For all I know it might serve you well for several years and a new PSU might be faulty and taker your whole rig with it in a puff of smoke.

But... If you were to switch to a well-known PSU brand, you should consider your possible future needs and balance them with your current ones. Are you going to overclock the computer? Are you going to buy several GPUs? Are you going for AMD or Intel? Etc. List the parts you'd like to have now and think about the upgrades you might need within the next couple of years. That will give you a rough estimate of the power output you need. Then you can use the Tom's Hardware's PSU tier list as a guideline:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

You might also want to check out some buyer's guides just to get an idea what you should be looking for (I just googled these quickly, I'm not sure if they're outdated or not):

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8754/psu-buyers-guide-holiday-2014
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2601-7.html
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Yes, cheap generic PSU. Would you recommend something better ?
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Just a generic 620 W PSU? That doesn't bode well for quality, but on the other hand the power output should be more than enough for GTX 1060. The AIB RX 480s are a bit of a question mark at the moment.
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It is an ATX 620.  But, if necessary I am prepared to replace the PSU.
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shane49, what PSU are you using? Its power rating and quality may limit your options.
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