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i7 6850 if I use an M.2 SSD in the M2 1 slot, a vid card in pcie slot2, will the ssd drive pcie lanes step on the vid card lanes, ssd 4 lanes video 16 lanes................  |
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Posted: 23 Sep 2016 at 12:48am |
The i7-6850K has 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes: http://ark.intel.com/products/94188/Intel-Core-i7-6850K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz So there is more than enough PCIe 3.0 lanes available for video cards and other devices. Beyond that, it depends on the specific X99 board you will be using, and how it allocates the PCIe lanes for the M.2 slot. All X99 boards are not the same, and you did not mention which X99 board you will be using. All you need to do is understand the PCIe lane allocation to the PCIe slots and the M.2 slot, and use the appropriate slots. You should have no problem running a video card at PCIe 3.0 x16, with an M.2 SSD (also unknown to us) at PCIe 3.0 x4. Knowing which X99 board you will be using will allow us to determine which PCIe slot to use for a video card to run at x16. |
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Posted: 23 Sep 2016 at 10:27am |
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I'm good, was asking before installing vid driver. Everything was like pulling teeth for clean install of w7. x99 Taichi fw 1.4 i76850 HyperX 3000MHz OCZ RD400 GTX1070G1 next question. the RD400 is running hot, hotest component by 10C. It sits in M.2 slot closest to cpu, in vid card air exhaust. It has OS installed. Can I move it as is to the 2nd M.2 slot and boot machine, so far its the only drive installed? and whats with the super slow POST and having to press TAB key to boot ? Edited by spyknee - 23 Sep 2016 at 10:31am |
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Posted: 23 Sep 2016 at 12:48pm |
You can use the RD400 in either M.2 slot, makes no difference for booting an OS. I have an RD400, and they do run on the warm side, that's normal. If mine is below 40C, it must be cold in the house, and it's not even the OS drive. All M.2 SSDs run warmer than SATA SSDs, and the RD400 run about 4C - 5C warmer than a Samsung 950 Pro. These M.2 SSDs have no metal case to act as a heat sink, so they will be warmer. You can put a small heat sink like those used for video cards on the VRM chips, on the SSD controller chip, the one closest to the gold contacts on the circuit board. The SSD controller is what runs hot, and what the temperature reading you get is from. If you had the version of the RD400 with the M.2 to PCIe slot adapter card, it would run a little cooler, but not 10C cooler. Super slow POST? Yes, welcome to X99! A lot more going on with an X99 board, more SATA ports, more PCIe lanes, more memory slots, dual network ports, WiFi, etc. Slowest board to POST I've ever used, but that is normal. One more thing too, NVMe drives take longer to POST on any mother board. Try having more than one on a board, takes even longer. The need to press TAB to boot is not normal. Have you set the boot order in the UEFI? You may see multiple entries for the same drive, which one is first? |
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Posted: 24 Sep 2016 at 1:25am |
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OK tanx
I think I will move RD400 to other slot then. It will have more open air there. Its reporting 53C. I believe boot order set, still aquainting myself with Taichi and uefi. All things at auto, ram is an xmp profile. I will be setting things up without auto selections, OC'ing things. Later on. It took FW flash nicely, guess I will disable gui screen and see........
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Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 11:57am |
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doing some agonizing here. Fighting between uefi understanding and usage, and w7 issues. W7 no longer really supported.... As long as I use auto options, in bios, things run. But I tried to begin setting things on manual and crisis. It seems that so much of bios is power saving and core dancing, all of which I do not want. This is for a desktop pc so I do not need laptop power saving stuff. I want to disable as much as I can and get strictly performance power. 1 cpu freq for all cores thats constant and unchanging always available. Setting up for OC'ing. Also the RD400 has some issue, lots of power loss alerts. It also claims an error in format on SSD Utilities SSD tuner tab. I set over provisioning at first but now the error.??? It hangs on windows gui screen every 4th POST or so. I re-installed OS to drive a 2nd time because of this but issue persists. Yes I secure erased the drive 1st. FW 1.4 i7 6850 RD400/400A What settings should I use for a UEFI video card? Once OS is installed, do I still need the CSM setting uefi or can I disable using fast boot?? Do I need ME for home use? Considered safest highest BCLK? any known best bclk with multiplier combos? do qpi freq vs ram freq ratios apply the same as they did for the X58 chipset? Any good guides been looking and........................ ty
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Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 5:46am |
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figured out most things, now.
still want to know about ASROCK and BCLK's tho? still have an issue with hanging on the windows start gui, out of bios boot, not consistant but it is persistant. an answer or link sure would be helpful.
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Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 8:08am |
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I used method 1 from guide here and it appears that w7 installed in legacy mode.
I do not have the efi partition setup. Using a NVMe drive, selected uefi in csm ..........new build so all stuff new but cd rom is not uefi. I installed W7/64 SP1 from uefi usb stick. M.2 drive connected, cd connected, usb connected. So what do I need to get system to install 100% UEFI?
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Posted: 30 Sep 2016 at 9:07am |
Windows 7 has a problem with UEFI booting installations. I mention that in my guide that you used. I also describe how to deal with it. I'll do that here for you. Win 8, 8.1, and 10 do not have this problem. Also, Win 7 does NOT have a built in NVMe driver. You will need to load an NVMe driver before your NVMe SSD will even be recognized by the Win 7 installation program. That means selecting a Custom installation. You'll also need to have the OCZ NVMe driver ready to load. That is NOT just the unzipped OCZ NVMe driver package. You must have just the x64 folder and its contents, on another USB flash drive, which is where the Win 7 installer will look for the driver. This is the download page for the OCZ RD400 NVMe driver. You'll need to select your drive, and then scroll down to the driver download area: https://ocz.com/us/download/ UEFI booting is mainly the use of a different boot loader, the program that runs to load an OS, including Windows. There is the standard "Legacy" boot loader, and the EFI boot loader, used for UEFI booting. Both are just program files. Turns out the Win 7 installation files have the EFI boot loader program/file, in a folder that is different than where the Win 7 installation program is coded to look for it. So it can't find it, and defaults to a Legacy installation which does not use the EFI boot loader, of course. Why MSoft never fixed this, I have no clue. It is possible to fix the location of the EFI boot loader file in Win 7. It takes some work but can be done. This guide describes how that is done, which is part of the guide's UEFI booting instructions. You'll need to scroll down to those instructions for Win 7. Don't skip the rest of my post, I'm not done yet. This is it: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html The description starts in step 10 of Option 2 in the guide. You can't just ignore the rest of the guide, and techniques for UEFI booting. You must be very careful fixing the location of that file, if it is not perfect, it won't work. I've done it once or twice, but I've also had failures creating the fixed installation files. One of the reasons I said goodbye to Win 7. You'll be creating a USB flash drive installation media for Win 7. That is a must. When your Win 7 USB flash drive, with the FIXED Win 7 installation files on it, when you run the Win 7 installation, you MUST select the entry in the boot order that is, "UEFI: <flash drive name>". Otherwise, it will not install as a UEFI booting installation. Plus the standard things for installing Windows are still needed, mainly not having any other drives connected to the PC besides the target OS drive. You can now understand why most users of NVMe SSDs don't use Win 7. MSoft might not be updating Win 7 for that reason, they want us to use Win 10. |
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Posted: 01 Oct 2016 at 3:17am |
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If I understand, then I did all you say.
I did not use ruefus to make install usb tho. The usb I used had a disc image copied to it. In mobo bios boot, I chose the uefi partition for boot. Is this different somehow.? http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/186875-uefi-unified-extensible-firmware-interface-install-windows-7-a.html Maybe I am misunderstanding what it is to uefi w7. The link explains my pov at moment. I am having system blurbs so I am searching for basic stability. I have a working MBR intall but...........want to exploit all the current hardware/software advances. Just not W10. Can I use a w10 install to create the GPT partition scheme, then install w7 to it? I did this using a w7 install to ready a SSD for XP, worked great.
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