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 Posted: 01 Oct 2016 at 10:05am |
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well started again.
However RUFUS GPT for UEFI will not boot. tried 2 different iso's a lot of conflicting info from OCZ, windows seven forums............... somehow the drag and drop copy of iso made the 3 partitions, but says it cannot install to primary because its GPT. A rufus will not boot period. Seems as if its only allowing MBR...................
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Posted: 01 Oct 2016 at 3:46pm |
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tanx for link.
But now theres some controller error. Windows setup will not partition disk. Tried two 64 drivers DL's from ocz. Its boot utility, USB, I made is only thing that will boot efi and run. I also do not get why RUFUS is useless. Its the biggest link given to get a bootable USB install image for GPT and it does not work. Hell my 1st USB attempt was a drag an drop, it looks same on a stick, same uefi partition notations ta boot. Not to mention the tech is fairly old now, it ain't new for sure. All iso images have efi files all over install so what the hell...................... If I do the manual diskpart method, and it does not work....................more wasted effort.
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spyknee
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Posted: 02 Oct 2016 at 8:15am |
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this taichii???????
whats with the usb boot sticks. ssd utility perfect w10 was able to make partition np, w7 will not boot, yes I made the settings, used same ms tool to make both boot sticks, tried several iso copies .,..... what am i missing. I had w7 installed mBR and now it will not do that. is there a proper method for usb sticks???? they do not appear to be PnP. is the manual method with diskpart dog listed the only true option?
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Posted: 02 Oct 2016 at 11:16pm |
I told you installing Win 7 in UEFI booting mode is not easy. Most people give up trying. Using Rufus, or the manual steps, to create the Windows USB installation flash drive is only one small step in the process of creating the USB installation USB flash drive. The manual method in wardog's link, which is also shown in the link I provided earlier that shows the Rufus method, is exactly the same. Either one works, but IMO Rufus is confusing. Frankly, a USB flash drive fresh out of its box is formatted perfectly for this purpose. Don't forget, all those formatting steps applies to the USB flash drive only. The only reason that is shown in the guide is because people format USB flash drives themselves in different ways, and the manual formatting insures the flash drive is in the correct format. It really is not hard to do. Using the Rufus method, you don't need to drag and drop the ISO file to the USB flash drive, which is easier for some users. The manual USB drive creation, using the drag and drop method, is really a Select All of the ISO folders, then left click, and select Mount. Then you left click again, and select Send to..., which should have the USB flash drive in the Send to list. I cannot tell by your posts if you did things in that way. Another thing, if the USB flash drive is larger than 32GB, they tend to not work correctly. What size is your USB flash drive? Regardless, both of those methods does not fix the Win 7 ISO installation file layout. You mention the drag and drop of the ISO file (after mounting it?), which is one of the steps in creating the USB installation media. IF all you did was drag and drop the unmodified Windows 7 installation files to the USB flash drive, then it won't work. Maybe you have things set up on the Win 7 flash drive now, I'll assume that. Next: When you start the Win 7 installation, go into the UEFI/BIOS, and go to the Boot screen, and check the Boot order. You should ONLY see the USB flash drive listed there. Now check that you have an entry for the USB flash drive that is, "UEFI: <flash drive name>", the important part being the "UEFI:" part. You MUST select that one for the installation. Select it, Save and Exit, and the installer should start. With Win 7, you MUST install the OCZ NVMe driver during the Win 7 installation. You must select a Custom installation in the Win 7 installer. You will NOT see the RD400 recognized yet. In the Custom installation screen, select the Load Driver option. You'll need to have the OCZ NVMe driver on yet another USB flash drive. Don't worry about formatting it unless you changed it from its standard formatting. That driver is here, but we are not done yet: https://ocz.com/us/download/ Select your Region, then Client SSD, then RD400/RD400A. On that page, scroll way down until you find the Drivers download. Be sure it is Drivers, NOT firmware. When you click the download button, it will be the ocznvme-1.2.126.843_whck.zip file. Once you have that file, unzip (Extract) it and open the resulting folder. The ONLY thing you want to copy to the other USB flash drive is the x64 folder. The rest of it is the Windows installation programs, which will NOT WORK for you, they only work once Windows is installed. But that only works for versions of Windows that have a built in NVMe driver, like Win 10 or 8.1. On the Load Driver screen, find the USB flash drive with the X64 driver file. Select it and let it load. DO NOT remove the USB flash drive with the X64 NVMe driver on it until the entire Win 7 installation is complete. No need to remove it at all. When the driver loading is complete, go back to the Custom installation screen. Now you should see the RD400 listed. If not, something is wrong. If you have the RD400 listed, if it has any partitions on it, delete them until it is ALL empty space. Now find the New button on that screen and click it. A window will appear saying it will create partitions, just click Ok. When it is done, you'll see four partitions on the RD400. That is how it should be. Finally now, click Next for the installation to actually begin. If it fails during that point, the Win 7 installation USB was probably not right. There is nothing wrong with the Taichi board. I've installed Windows 8.1 and 10 on NVMe SSDs on ASRock Z77, Z97, X99, Z170, and H110 boards, as the OS drive. As I've said all along, Win 7 is much more of a pain to get installed on an NVMe SSD, particularly if you are doing it for the first time, as you are. Hope this helps, let us know how it goes, or if you have more questions. |
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Posted: 03 Oct 2016 at 3:49am |
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tanx
todays struggle. The issue with all the boot failures from stuff appears to be due to the fact that usb must be set to uefi only. Then it will boot. I got a rufus copy with GPT. It loads w7 install, makes partitions, 3, then proceeds to tell me it cannot format the partition, error 0x800424C. I'm not a pro here. The uefi is all new to moi. Takes me 3 or 4 reads to get things to coagulate. Over years I have built all my pc's. As far as taichi goes I might just be moving to fast when changing sticks. I have taken to killing power and waiting for board leds to die. Its POST is faster, it always POST's, its just aquireing the right steps for this board that are tuff. Parsec your guide is great. It installed MBR 1st try but I want the new so.......and there was some inconsistancies in performance, read where uefi is suppose to step up things a notch with hardware. Time for a TAICHI owners thread ASROCK. Time to update some stuff to 2016. The manuals are useless, unreadable due to poor printing, little cheap on the ink.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2016 at 7:59am |
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Different iso image, different USB stick, RUFUS 2.11
GPT for uefi system. Fat32 4096 same result, creates 3 partitions, fails to format a partition. 0x8004242C error It is partition 1, 100MB, that refuses format. Diskpart no good cuz without ocz driver, drive not seen. cmd with install only sees the 2 usb sticks. So its a common error from 2 different tries, 2 different sticks, same system.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2016 at 8:59am |
Besides the content of the manual, which I'm not saying is bad, if you can't read it, you can download it in pdf format. I have all my ASRock board manuals on every system I use, including others that I don't own, but for general reference. Here is the Taichi manual: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99%20Taichi/#Manual I'm not sure if you are saying the Taichi manual should have a section about installing NVMe SSDs, or installing Windows in UEFI booting mode (which can be done with ANY SSD, and I do that on every Windows installation I do), but consider this: Does the manufacture of the NVMe SSD provide a manual with their product, that describes how to install Windows on it? In the case of the OCZ RD400, I'll let you decide for yourself. Here are two guides they do provide: https://ocz.com/download/product-brief/OCZ_RD400_Product_Brief_English.06142016.pdf https://ocz.com/download/drivers/nvme/Windows_NVMeDriver_UserGuide_English.07112016.pdf If you can find another guide that does, I'd be thrilled to see it. No offense, but why is a mother board manufacture responsible for providing instructions for the use of another manufacture's product? If their SSD (in this instance) needs special treatment to install an OS on it (which it does), why aren't they giving us instructions about that? Samsung and Intel are not much better, if at all, than OCZ in this regard. It is not the board that is the problem, it is using a NVMe SSD. They are different, don't use the SATA protocol or drivers. Any manufactures mother board would be the same, if not worse. SOme of the problems users have with other manufactures boards and NVMe SSDs is just crazy. ASRock has actually been the leader in UEFI booting and in providing the M.2 interface for NVMe SSDs. At one time, the Z97 Extreme6 was the only mother board that could support M.2 PCIe SSDs that need the PCIe 3.0 x4 interface. I have one of those too. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean about the Taichi manual not being up to date. One more time, the Taichi board is not the problem. I have two NVMe SSDs in my ASRock X99 Extreme6/3.1 board. Two Intel NVMe 750s, one is the OS drive, the other a data drive. I have two Samsung NVMe 950 Pro's as the OS drives, one on my Z170 Extreme7+ board, the other in my DeskMini 110W PC. I use Windows 10 on all of them, among other reasons because it can be installed for UEFI booting without jumping through hoops. Sorry to drag this out, but true UEFI booting guide time. Again, doing this with Windows 7 is not easy, you absolutely MUST fix the location of the EFI boot loader folder, or it will NOT WORK!! The guide I gave you earlier describes how that is done. Everything else in my previous post still counts, nothing you can skip. The following is just additional information. Two ways to enable UEFI booting: 1. Find the CSM option, should be in the Boot screen, at the very bottom. By default it is Enabled. Click on it to see its options. Find the Launch Storage OpROM Policy option. Set it to UEFI Only. Save and exit. 2. This method requires your video source to be "GOP" compatible. That depends on your video card, if it's fairly new, it most likely is. Some cards I know will be, others not sure. Intel integrated graphics is since Sandy Bridge. What do you use? Find the CSM option, should be in the Boot screen, at the very bottom. By default it is Enabled. Set CSM to Disabled. Save and exit. Again, when installing Windows, choose the "UEFI:..." entry. Only have the RD400 connected to the PC, no other SSDs or HDDs. For Windows 7, you'll need that OCZ NVMe driver to load during the installation. Hang in there man, let us know what happens.  |
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Posted: 03 Oct 2016 at 10:59am |
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Got beyond the 0x8004242C error. Your guys diskpart option triggered me to find chit, Anyways using diskpart I was able to manually install partitions. The issue was that the sys part 1, must be a minimum of 260mb. So install begins, but what happens is that after it reboots out from install process, BSOD. The bios push the RD400 to 1st boot, windows gui starts and bsod. its passes to fast to get the code.................. 2 separate install sticks, 2 separate iso's, same crash. Video card is a GTX 1070G1. its has gen 3 selected, video op rom policy legacy. If I could just get that bsod code.............. |
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Posted: 03 Oct 2016 at 11:09am |
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Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean about the Taichi manual not being up to date.
Bear with my frustration. What I mean is that there seems to be certain options in the bios that must work together in order to work with hardware. Being a DIY'er, definition of terms is not enough. That manual is merely a definition of terms. Same as text in bios. ie: enabling uefi only in USB tab legacy usb options. Soon as this was enabled the pc saw uefi usb sticks as a boot disc. Guess I'm the Taichi guniea pig......................
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