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Greetings,

I am looking for a decent overclockable mobo and I like the Fatal1ty Gaming E3V5 with the 232 chipset. Thing is my processor is the Skylake 4.0Ghz i7 and the mobo support page mentions it is combatible with 6th generation Intel i3, pentium,celeron and doesn't mention i7 (or i5 for that matter). Is anyone using the i7 with this board or should i look for another solution?

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I have used an i5 6600k in mine without any issues. I can't say for sure about the i7 but I would be very surprised if it does not work given the only difference between the i5 and the i7 is frequency and hyperthreading. 

The H170 Performance/Hyper is another good choice of board if you are reluctant to go for the E3V5 Performance/OC. I have used both boards and they both work very well, the E3V5 is nice in that you can upgrade to a Xeon CPU down the line which tends to be cheaper than equivalent i7/i5 solutions but you already have an i7 so that largely renders it moot. The H170 Performance/Hyper is a more feature rich option with most of the same functionality as much more expensive boards. As I said, both have worked well for me but in your situation the H170 would probably be the better choice.


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Originally posted by churchie73 churchie73 wrote:

Greetings,

I am looking for a decent overclockable mobo and I like the Fatal1ty Gaming E3V5 with the 232 chipset. Thing is my processor is the Skylake 4.0Ghz i7 and the mobo support page mentions it is combatible with 6th generation Intel i3, pentium,celeron and doesn't mention i7 (or i5 for that matter). Is anyone using the i7 with this board or should i look for another solution?

Thanks,

churchie



I have two surprises for you about this board. One good, and one not good, given your intended use of the Fatal1ty E3V5 Performance Gaming/OC board.

If we check the CPU Support list of this board, we find that Skylake i5 and i7 processors are supported and can be used with this board. The list of supported processors on the Overview page is incomplete, and incorrect. Sorry, but the forum's link creation tool has not been working lately, I can only create a link to the board's main page. Just click on the CPU Support List, on the upper left:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20E3V5%20Performance%20GamingOC/

That's the good news. The bad news is, the Intel C232 chipset does not support over clocking, as it can be done with the Intel 'Z' chipset boards. Check the "Supports Overclocking" line, at the bottom of the Essentials section. This chipset is officially called GL82C232 PCH:

http://ark.intel.com/products/90578

You can overclock a Skylake 'K' type processor on this board only by changing the BCLK (Base Clock) frequency. That is not the usual method of over clocking a modern Intel CPU, which is done by changing the CPU core multiplier(s) from their default values. This board's manual does not show the CPU core multipliers being available as an option in the UEFI, which is what I would expect for a board with a chipset that does not support over clocking.

BCLK over clocking has limitations that are not imposed upon chipsets that support over clocking. Those limitations include not being able to use the processor's integrated graphics, and the VID/VCore voltage reading will be incorrect.

To answer your final question, if you have a 'K' Skylake i7 processor, and intend to over clock, yes you should look for another solution.


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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

I have used an i5 6600k in mine without any issues. I can't say for sure about the i7 but I would be very surprised if it does not work given the only difference between the i5 and the i7 is frequency and hyperthreading. 

The H170 Performance/Hyper is another good choice of board if you are reluctant to go for the E3V5 Performance/OC. I have used both boards and they both work very well, the E3V5 is nice in that you can upgrade to a Xeon CPU down the line which tends to be cheaper than equivalent i7/i5 solutions but you already have an i7 so that largely renders it moot. The H170 Performance/Hyper is a more feature rich option with most of the same functionality as much more expensive boards. As I said, both have worked well for me but in your situation the H170 would probably be the better choice.


Are you able to over clock with the CPU core multipliers on the Fatal1ty E3V5 Performance Gaming/OC?
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Thanks for the prompt replies, makes me want to stick with AsRock knowing the great community here. Clap
My main reason for looking at the board is the feature set and the fact that this board provides everything i would need for what i feel is a solid price. I don't need onboard video so i can put that $50 or so into my video card.
Before i pull the trigger i will look at some H170 boards so thanks for the tip.


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Originally posted by churchie73 churchie73 wrote:

Thanks for the prompt replies, makes me want to stick with AsRock knowing the great community here. Clap
My main reason for looking at the board is the feature set and the fact that this board provides everything i would need for what i feel is a solid price. I don't need onboard video so i can put that $50 or so into my video card.
Before i pull the trigger i will look at some H170 boards so thanks for the tip.




Thanks, but we may not be done yet, apparently.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong about this, but it seems you are not very familiar with Intel processors, chipsets, and the restrictions Intel imposes on over clocking. None of that exists in AMD systems.

The only Intel mother boards that allow over clocking by changing the CPU multiplier are boards that have a 'Z' chipset. For a Skylake processor like yours, that is only Z170 chipset boards.

That means you cannot over clock on an H170 chipset board. It must be a Z170 board.

You said you have a Skylake i7 CPU, but you did not include the model. It must be an i7-6700K CPU, or you cannot over clock it by changing the core multipliers. That is the only Skylake i7 CPU that can be over clocked.

So to over clock with core multipliers with a Skylake system, you must have both a Z170 chipset board, and a 'K' model processor.

There is the i7-6700, which is not the 'K' model, and cannot be over clocked. Which i7 do you have, check here:

http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88392/6th-Generation-Intel-Core-i7-Processors#@Desktop

I'm worried there might be some confusion here, since if this is all new to anyone, it can be confusing. Actually there are only two Skylake processors that can be over clocked via the core multiplier, the i7-6700K and the i5-6600K.

Another detail, the "onboard video" for any Intel system released since 2011, has the graphics processing cores built into the processor itself. The mother board just supplies the video cable connections.

Not all Intel processors include "integrated graphics" as it is called, but all current Skylake i5 and i7 processors have integrated graphics, including the 'K' models.

It's amazing the amount of detail that exists about PC hardware, and this is really the most basic stuff! It's also amazing I remember it all. Geek
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thanks parsec, i really appreciate your help. i understand overclocking quite well but was unaware of the limits with the H170 and C232 chipsets, so thank you for that tip.
i ended up going with the Z170 chipset for that very reason (since i have a K Skylake :) )



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Originally posted by churchie73 churchie73 wrote:

thanks parsec, i really appreciate your help. i understand overclocking quite well but was unaware of the limits with the H170 and C232 chipsets, so thank you for that tip.
i ended up going with the Z170 chipset for that very reason (since i have a K Skylake :) )





Thanks, and I'm glad you have a 'K' CPU! You'll be fine with a Z170 board for over clocking.

The "limits" exist thanks to Intel's rules (laws is more appropriate Angry ) about which processors and chipsets allow over clocking. The limits are 99% artificially imposed by Intel, they choose to do it that way.

It's been this way since Intel released their Sandy Bridge processors in 2011. That changed over clocking on Intel systems forever, which remains that way today, and is unlikely to ever change. Those rules don't exist in AMD land. LOL

But AMD's wide open over clock any processor on any board, has its drawbacks too.

Are there any other features you want to use, like virtualization? Intel limits that capability on platforms that can OC.
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Originally posted by churchie73 churchie73 wrote:

thanks parsec, i really appreciate your help. i understand overclocking quite well but was unaware of the limits with the H170 and C232 chipsets, so thank you for that tip.
i ended up going with the Z170 chipset for that very reason (since i have a K Skylake :) )




So you have the i7 6700K, had I known that I would have steered you toward a Z170 board for sure. Not using a Z170 board with a K CPU is a total waste. Even if you do manage to find an overclocking enabled H or B series board you lose out on the multiplier. The Z170 allows for both BCLK and Multiplier overclocking (in combination if you so choose) on K class CPUs.
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