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My OS is Windows, I boot into Linux only to use HDPARM only to set the Master Password as that cannot be done in windows. There is an issue with the BIOS that resets the Master Password upon unlocking the SSD by entering the user password upon startup when prompted by the BIOS.

This is OS independent.

This has also happened in a Z77 Extreme 4 with a ATA enabled BIOS.

Also I have noticed that this only happens when the SSD is unlocked at BIOS i.e. if you restart the PC over and over but don't unlock the SSD after initially setting the Master Password and shutting down, the Master password is retained and can be used to unlock the SSD. Therefore the act of unlocking the SSD at startup in BIOS resets the Master Password to default. This is not an OS issue, this is a BIOS issue.


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Your refer to "unlocking the SSD" above.

How, when, and where are you "unlocking the SSD"? You posts make it sound as if that/this is a separate screen/function other than in the BIOS.

I believe that's where mine and parsecs confusion is originating from. Certainly mine.
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When ATA Security is enabled on an SSD or HDD and you are using a motherboard that supports it, upon startup you will be met by a prompt from BIOS to input a user password to unlock the "locked" drive. With the Asrock motherboards, if you enter the incorrect user password five times a new prompt will show up asking for a master password. If you incorrectly enter the Master password five times you will get a message saying the SSD/HDD is locked.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Dec 2016 at 1:11pm
A long read yet after your post above describing "unlocking the SSD" I believe your answers are found at:

http://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2014/19/Using-the-ATA-security-features-of-modern-hard-disks-and-SSDs
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Dec 2016 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

A long read yet after your post above describing "unlocking the SSD" I believe your answers are found at:

http://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2014/19/Using-the-ATA-security-features-of-modern-hard-disks-and-SSDs


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The counterpart to freezing (thawing, so to speak) does not exist. It takes a hardware reset or power cycle to revert to the SEC1 state (Figure 1).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Dec 2016 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

A long read yet after your post above describing "unlocking the SSD" I believe your answers are found at:

http://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2014/19/Using-the-ATA-security-features-of-modern-hard-disks-and-SSDs


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The counterpart to freezing (thawing, so to speak) does not exist. It takes a hardware reset or power cycle to revert to the SEC1 state (Figure 1).



Can I assume you're using the switch on the back of the PSU or a power strip to kill all power, instead of Sleep or even simply shutting down from  the OS, but still leaving the PSU feed the MB?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Dec 2016 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

A long read yet after your post above describing "unlocking the SSD" I believe your answers are found at:

http://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2014/19/Using-the-ATA-security-features-of-modern-hard-disks-and-SSDs


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The counterpart to freezing (thawing, so to speak) does not exist. It takes a hardware reset or power cycle to revert to the SEC1 state (Figure 1).



Can I assume you're using the switch on the back of the PSU or a power strip to kill all power, instead of Sleep or even simply shutting down from  the OS, but still leaving the PSU feed the MB?


That's not necessary. To "Unfreeze" an SSD you simply need to pull out the power cable out of the SSD and plug it back in again.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Dec 2016 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by someguy someguy wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

A long read yet after your post above describing "unlocking the SSD" I believe your answers are found at:

http://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2014/19/Using-the-ATA-security-features-of-modern-hard-disks-and-SSDs


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The counterpart to freezing (thawing, so to speak) does not exist. It takes a hardware reset or power cycle to revert to the SEC1 state (Figure 1).



Can I assume you're using the switch on the back of the PSU or a power strip to kill all power, instead of Sleep or even simply shutting down from  the OS, but still leaving the PSU feed the MB?


That's not necessary. To "Unfreeze" an SSD you simply need to pull out the power cable out of the SSD and plug it back in again.


Same thing, is it not? Pulling or disconnecting from?
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Its quicker to unplug and plug the SSD then suspending the PC
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wardog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Dec 2016 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by someguy someguy wrote:

Its quicker to unplug and plug the SSD then suspending the PC


Sure.

But do you really think that's necessarily a good idea? I know it isn't.


Can I ask? Why are you doing it in the first place? That's a respectfully serious question.
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