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Originally posted by KrisWragg KrisWragg wrote:

Originally posted by juanvr juanvr wrote:

Hey guys,

Just got a X370 Gaming K4.
Using Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB Kit: CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W

Best I could get out of this 3200 CL 16-18-18-36 kit is 2667 18-18-36-62... Very demoralizing especially since I just built it and I read LPX kits are compatible, just not THESE LPX kits...

Any help to get it running better would be appreciated. Im pretty sad.

I have the same kit on my X370 Taichi, I have managed 2666mhz 14-15-15-30 @ 1.375v and SOC set to 1.1v

I can also run 2993mhz 18-20-20-40 but that isn't really any faster in benchmarks so I've stuck with the 2666 lower timings for now.

I think the biggest thing is to change the SOC voltage higher, I've found 1.1 quite good, I think 1.2v is the highest recommended for daily use.

Welcome to the Forums! Which BIOS are you running?

Originally posted by redemp redemp wrote:

I updated my bios to 1.93D today on my X370 Professional Gaming but my RipJaws V 3200cl14 8x2VGR still fail @3200mhz :(.

And a Welcome to the Forums to you, too! Sorry to hear that about your sticks.. Did you buy them for your Ryzen build, or did you already have them? How stable is 1.93D?


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Originally posted by KrisWragg KrisWragg wrote:

I have the same kit on my X370 Taichi, I have managed 2666mhz 14-15-15-30 @ 1.375v and SOC set to 1.1v

I can also run 2993mhz 18-20-20-40 but that isn't really any faster in benchmarks so I've stuck with the 2666 lower timings for now.

I think the biggest thing is to change the SOC voltage higher, I've found 1.1 quite good, I think 1.2v is the highest recommended for daily use.

Yeah, I managed to get it down to 16-16-16-30 on 2667. Might be able to tweak it more, but I'm "ok" with that until proper support becomes available. I just hope it actually does.

That said, the Ryzen 1700 seems to be running good at 3600 with SMT and stock cooler.
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Originally posted by twf85 twf85 wrote:

Welcome to the Forums! Which BIOS are you running?

Running the latest Beta, 1.63 according to the product page. XMP profile for this RAM kit is there and gets detected, but system will not boot just selecting that.

I got it running by selecting XMP profile, then adjusting speed down to 2666.
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Originally posted by juanvr juanvr wrote:

Running the latest Beta, 1.63 according to the product page. XMP profile for this RAM kit is there and gets detected, but system will not boot just selecting that.

I got it running by selecting XMP profile, then adjusting speed down to 2666.

Not that I would urge you in this direction, but isn't the latest Beta for the Taichi 1.93A?

The BIOS list on the Fatal1ty was a little screwy when 1.60 came out. I saw it in the morning, downloaded it, installed it, and then it was gone from the list. Made me think I had just made a horrible mistake.

Anyway, I guess my point is that if you refresh, or open a new tab, you should see 1.93A. The note on it is, "Improve XMP DRAM compatibility.". Pretty big jump from ~1.6 to ~1.9, so who knows, you might have some luck.
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Originally posted by twf85 twf85 wrote:

Not that I would urge you in this direction, but isn't the latest Beta for the Taichi 1.93A?

The BIOS list on the Fatal1ty was a little screwy when 1.60 came out. I saw it in the morning, downloaded it, installed it, and then it was gone from the list. Made me think I had just made a horrible mistake.

Anyway, I guess my point is that if you refresh, or open a new tab, you should see 1.93A. The note on it is, "Improve XMP DRAM compatibility.". Pretty big jump from ~1.6 to ~1.9, so who knows, you might have some luck.

Wait, so I can use the Taichi BIOS on the Fatal1ty? Or you mean the list on the Fatal1ty product page is out of date?
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Guys, just noticed something... 

What's the difference between these boards?!

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#BIOS
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#BIOS

I think I have the K4 but there's a later BIOS for the "Professional Gaming" board.

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Originally posted by juanvr juanvr wrote:

Originally posted by twf85 twf85 wrote:

Not that I would urge you in this direction, but isn't the latest Beta for the Taichi 1.93A?

The BIOS list on the Fatal1ty was a little screwy when 1.60 came out. I saw it in the morning, downloaded it, installed it, and then it was gone from the list. Made me think I had just made a horrible mistake.

Anyway, I guess my point is that if you refresh, or open a new tab, you should see 1.93A. The note on it is, "Improve XMP DRAM compatibility.". Pretty big jump from ~1.6 to ~1.9, so who knows, you might have some luck.

Wait, so I can use the Taichi BIOS on the Fatal1ty? Or you mean the list on the Fatal1ty product page is out of date?


You cannot use the UEFI from one board with another. Even if you tried, the update should be stopped before it begins. Applying the UEFI for one board to another would result in at best a broken UEFI, and at a worst a bricked board.

BTW guys, there are two Ryzen Fatal1ty X370 boards (Professional Gaming, and Gaming K4), and three Ryzen Fatal1ty models, including the Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4. I know typing these names is a pain, but if you don't fully identify the board you're using, we can't give you accurate information.

As of the evening of 3/29/2017 in the USA, I see both Ryzen Fatal1ty x370 boards have a 1.60 UEFI version, so 1.60 was not removed from either board's download page:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#BIOS

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#BIOS

UEFI updates are coming quickly, and I see a 1.94A Beta version for the Taichi just posted:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#BIOS

The Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming has the 1.93D Beta version available, as stated above.

Not that this will make you feel any better I imagine, but I was reading some user comments about other manufacture's Ryzen boards. Many of them include the lack of DRAM configuration features in the UEFI/BIOS, so that seems not uncommon.

It sure seems the Ryzen processors were available for purchase before the mother board and memory manufactures were ready with their products.

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Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:


You cannot use the UEFI from one board with another. Even if you tried, the update should be stopped before it begins. Applying the UEFI for one board to another would result in at best a broken UEFI, and at a worst a bricked board.

BTW guys, there are two Ryzen Fatal1ty X370 boards (Professional Gaming, and Gaming K4), and three Ryzen Fatal1ty models, including the Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4. I know typing these names is a pain, but if you don't fully identify the board you're using, we can't give you accurate information.

As of the evening of 3/29/2017 in the USA, I see both Ryzen Fatal1ty x370 boards have a 1.60 UEFI version, so 1.60 was not removed from either board's download page:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#BIOS

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#BIOS

UEFI updates are coming quickly, and I see a 1.94A Beta version for the Taichi just posted:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#BIOS

The Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming has the 1.93D Beta version available, as stated above.

Not that this will make you feel any better I imagine, but I was reading some user comments about other manufacture's Ryzen boards. Many of them include the lack of DRAM configuration features in the UEFI/BIOS, so that seems not uncommon.

It sure seems the Ryzen processors were available for purchase before the mother board and memory manufactures were ready with their products.


Thanks,

I don't understand...

You said the K4 board is Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4... However My board is definitely an "X370 Gaming K4". And your product page has it as an X370 board?

It's just weird that there are 2 Fatal1ty X370 boards, one with M.2 wifi, one without... And they're on different BIOS specs.

Also, this means there are THREE X370 boards:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#BIOS

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#BIOS

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#BIOS


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Originally posted by juanvr juanvr wrote:

Wait, so I can use the Taichi BIOS on the Fatal1ty? Or you mean the list on the Fatal1ty product page is out of date?

My bad juan, got you mixed up with the other guy.

Originally posted by juanvr juanvr wrote:

You said the K4 board is Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4... However My board is definitely an "X370 Gaming K4". And your product page has it as an X370 board?

There are TWO Fatal1ty boards with "K4" in the name..

Fatal1ty is a famous gamer who has been around for ages. ASRock, in partnership with Fatal1ty, releases boards with his name attached on many different boards. You got the pricier of the two K4 boards, so don't sweat it.


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Originally posted by twf85 twf85 wrote:

There are TWO Fatal1ty boards with "K4" in the name..

Fatal1ty is a famous gamer who has been around for ages. ASRock, in partnership with Fatal1ty, releases boards with his name attached on many different boards. You got the pricier of the two K4 boards, so don't sweat it.

Ahh I get it now.

At the moment I'm pretty happy with the setup I have. Would just be nice to have the RAM run at the XMP speeds. The CPU is happy at 3600 with no voltage tweaks.

Ran a CPU-Z validation which is in the signature now.
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