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    Posted: 30 Mar 2017 at 4:18pm
Hello,

i come here because i tried many things by myself to solve my problem but i didn't succeed in.
i need your help guys please !

My config :

mobo : Asrock x99 Extrem 4
CPU: i7 5820K
GPU: EVGA GTX 970 ssc 2
RAM: GSKILL-F4-2133C15D-8GVR 2x4Go + 2x4Go G.skill 2CL15 1.2V PC19200 2400Mhz
Power: 700watt FSP HYDRO 700
HDD: 1 SSD KINGSTON 120Go + 1SSD KINGSTON 240Go
OS: Windows 7 pro 64bits

My problem:

I accidently upgrade the bios of my x99 to the latest version. and now i have a delay between when i push on the start button and when the computer start, (i mean when the screen of the mobo starts with asrock etc..)
i flashback the bios to the first version 1.2 and i have always the same problem but he is reduced.
i would like to know how i can solve this problem and what is best bios atm for my cfg.

many thanks for your help.

ps: i tried to explain as much as i can.
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Follow the below links instructions and then post back if it is yet behaving this way.

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=630&title=how-to-clear-cmos-via-battery-removal
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ok thanks wardog i will try it when i'm at home.

and what is the best bios version for the asrock x99 extrem 4 please? ( most stable and with the best performance )
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Originally posted by eX2kz eX2kz wrote:

ok thanks wardog i will try it when i'm at home.

and what is the best bios version for the asrock x99 extrem 4 please? ( most stable and with the best performance )


There is no ONE magical BIOS as every system is different.

One that may work best here could quite possibly be absolutely horrendous there.
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Yes of course, i asked it because i don't want to stay at this version 1.2 which is the first bios release. and there is a lack of options/parameters in the uefi.
I have read many times that the last versions are not very stable and some of them are better than the other like the 2.10. i just want a confirmation or advice on the bios version to choose.
thanks a lot

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Originally posted by eX2kz eX2kz wrote:

Hello,

i come here because i tried many things by myself to solve my problem but i didn't succeed in.
i need your help guys please !

My config :

mobo : Asrock x99 Extrem 4
CPU: i7 5820K
GPU: EVGA GTX 970 ssc 2
RAM: GSKILL-F4-2133C15D-8GVR 2x4Go + 2x4Go G.skill 2CL15 1.2V PC19200 2400Mhz
Power: 700watt FSP HYDRO 700
HDD: 1 SSD KINGSTON 120Go + 1SSD KINGSTON 240Go
OS: Windows 7 pro 64bits

My problem:

I accidently upgrade the bios of my x99 to the latest version. and now i have a delay between when i push on the start button and when the computer start, (i mean when the screen of the mobo starts with asrock etc..)
i flashback the bios to the first version 1.2 and i have always the same problem but he is reduced.
i would like to know how i can solve this problem and what is best bios atm for my cfg.

many thanks for your help.

ps: i tried to explain as much as i can.


Originally posted by eX2kz eX2kz wrote:

Yes of course, i asked it because i don't want to stay at this version 1.2 which is the first bios release. and there is a lack of options/parameters in the uefi.
I have read many times that the last versions are not very stable and some of them are better than the other like the 2.10. i just want a confirmation or advice on the bios version to choose.
thanks a lot



Where have you read many times that the last (latest?) versions are not very stable?

The delay you mentioned is the POST time (Power On Self Test), the time from pressing the power button until the ASRock screen is displayed, after that Windows begins to boot. The POST process does basic tests of the hardware on a board, and the hardware connected to a board.

The POST time on any X99 board is longer than the POST time on other boards. The long POST time on X99 boards is normal, it is not a problem. POST time is also affected by the hardware used in the PC. The 1.20 UEFI/BIOS version might be faster to complete POST, but that is caused by the newer UEFI versions performing improved verification of the hardware.

X99 systems are more complex (eight memory slots, quad channel memory, more PCIe slots, more PCIe lanes in the CPU, more complex chipset) than other systems, so the POST process takes longer to complete. The X99 chipset is similar to the chipsets Intel uses on their enterprise/professional Xeon processors systems. Those systems value stability and integrity, so the POST process is more strict. Many X99 users complain about the long POST time, but they don't understand the nature of their mother board.

I see that you are using two different models of memory together in your board. You are lucky that works at all. As an example, all eight of your DIMMs must be checked during the POST process, compared to just two or four on other systems. I'm sure the two different models of memory also causes the POST memory check to be slower to complete.

Your UEFI has the Fast Boot option, which really causes POST to be faster. Since you use Windows 7, you can only the the "Fast" setting and not "Ultra Fast". While those option will cause the PC to start up faster, it still will not be as fast as a simpler board. The more simple a mother board is, the shorter its POST process will be.

It is impossible for us to know which UEFI version will be "better" for any particular PC. You mentioned the 2.10 version, which is the last version before support for Broadwell-E HEDT processors was added. You've changed to version 3.60 (accidentally?) which includes the CPU microcode and IME firmware update for Broadwell-E processors. That will work with your Haswell-E processor too. But did you update the Intel Management Engine driver ver:11.0.4.1186 software, from your board's download page?

We can only guess that the 2.10 version might be the best for your PC. But there is no method of fixing the POST time of an X99 board. How long does it take for POST to complete?
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