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TooQik
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I don't gain anything by going back to 1.60. The only "problem" I currently have is I can't get my RAM to run at speeds higher than 2400. This is the same for both the 1.60 and 2.00 BIOSes so I'm better off sticking with 2.00 until the next AGESA update in May. Patience is a virtue, although these days it's more and more a lost virtue. Too many people are part of the NOW Generation. |
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Optik
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QVL RAM? Ryzen dont like 13 15 17 timings and dude dont worry all other boards have the same problems with ram
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TooQik
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Until the RAM issues are sorted out the QVL is a guide more than a verified list of what works. I'm aware that all vendors are having the same issue, that's why I'm not worried and will patiently wait for the next AGESA release before updating my BIOS. |
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parsec
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I had that +12v (over 22V) reading too with that version of HWiNFO64 with my Ryzen system. I guess you did not see the +12V reading in my HWiNFO64 screenshot in my previous post on page 1 of this thread. That's with the v5.51-3141 Beta version, which fixes that bug. I like to use the Beta versions since they have the latest features, and rarely have any issues. You can also see sensor readings that are meaningless, like the 7° C Auxiliary reading that never changes. That +12V display error is a great example of how the outputs of the sensor/monitoring chip must be processed to provide the correct value. All boards don't use the same monitoring chips, and good programs like HWiNFO are coded to determine which monitoring chip and board is being used. From there the appropriate processing is applied to the monitoring chip's output. Yes, that's a lot of work and support, which is why some programs, even famous ones like CPU-Z, have bugs in them occasionally. I've casually worked with the programmer of HWiNFO to fix a bug in it occasionally, when new boards I have are released. You can read in the HWiNFO News section (basically release notes) how enhancements are added for various boards in different versions. This is scary stuff really, we depend on these programs and assume they are always correct. Their programmers do a great job, but no one is always perfect, and since there a few standards about how this all works, it's not easy getting everything right all the time. |
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TooQik
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Thanks for the heads-up on the beta version having fixed this bug parsec.
I can appreciate the amount of work involved from all sides when new products are released. That's why I try to get information from a number of sources before looking for a solution to a problem I don't really have. When I first noticed the high 12 V reading in HWiNFO I rebooted, went into BIOS and checked the HW Monitoring values, these were all normal so I figured HWiNFO wasn't reading the voltage correctly. The hardware manufacturer usually knows how to work with their hardware better than a third party. |
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Yes, the hardware manufacture ought to know how there own product works... they better.
You've brought up another situation that the third party programmer must deal with, as the HWiNFO programmer has mentioned in his forum. He has asked mobo manufactures for information about their sensor/monitoring designs, and is refused. He must figure it out himself, by using his experience and when possible the documentation for the monitoring chip from its manufacture. That still does not give them every detail, such as which sensor inputs or outputs are not being used for example. That's where owners of various boards can help them get things right. HWiNFO64 always has at least a few sensor readings that are meaningless, but that depends on the board manufacture, type of system (AMD or Intel), chipset, the board itself (high end or entry level), etc. Plus how can they have one of every mother board made by every manufacture to work with? Recently ASRock began using a new monitoring chip on a few of their boards, and most of the existing monitoring programs could display only a few readings correctly, until the programs were updated (if they ever were updated.) |
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Bill H
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I am liking this thread. Let me say, before I go any further that I have a Professional Gamer. which is pretty much the same as the Taichi(missing 5Ghz ethernet).
I did notice right away that BIOS version 2.0 does have voltage fluctuation problems.
I do like that I can save BIOS tweaks tho. I have been seeing voltages way above the normal range. CPUID HWMonitor and HWiNFO64 as well as CPU-Z are indicating a huge voltage fluctuation in CPU VCORE. From 1.392v to 2.8v. I went back to v1.60 and the problem went away. With v1.60 I get a great overclock to 4.1GHz and mem speeds of 3200MHz 14-15-15-15-36-1T. Using OFFset mode for the CPU and SOC voltages works well along with LLC I will just have to wait for ASRock to figure it out. As for now, the only thing I am missing is being able to save my configurations. Edited by Bill H - 25 Apr 2017 at 1:51pm |
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datonyb
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what is good
is real people with real setups posting what they can do and their settings it helps educate us all p.s. i like your ram choice (it does very very well on intel systems hopefully it will eventually show same promise on the am4) |
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Optik
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At weekend I will try 3,6ghz with undervolting.
3,6 GHz 3,7ghz is ryzen sweetspot Edited by Optik - 25 Apr 2017 at 9:39pm |
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Hwinfo64 5.51-3141 (beta) work fine for me, previous version and latest CPU-Z (1.79) showed a doubled voltage. The only thing I noticed is that it does not always show a drop in frequency in idle time (to ~1500mhz, always p0 - 3700), voltage drops.
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