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Originally posted by AlbinoRhino AlbinoRhino wrote:

Originally posted by Ricky Ricky wrote:

for fan curve, i prefer using CPU socket sensor. As Tctl is a bit jumpy.

asrock should include an option that let us choose either CPU socket or Tctl.?


My TCTL pretty much mirrors my CPU power demands. If you pull up a graph of your CPU activity you will see that every 10 seconds or so it spikes. Consistently. I haven't figured out why or how to make it smooth, but i believe it is typical across all Ryzen processors.

I have removed TCTL from HWInfo as my temps come nowhere close to justify a +20% offset so I removed it to reduce clutter. I kept TDIE as the reading since it is correct.

Do all CPU_Fan headers read TCTL as a default?

only in new bios come with 1.0.0.6a, they use Tctl as default. but the fan will keep spinning up and down even on light usage. as the temperature is fluctuate. a common behavior for ryzen lol.

all previous bios is using CPU socket sensor if i am not wrong.
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any info for killer sli?
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Originally posted by Ricky Ricky wrote:

for fan curve, i prefer using CPU socket sensor. As Tctl is a bit jumpy.

asrock should include an option that let us choose either CPU socket or Tctl.?


My TCTL pretty much mirrors my CPU power demands. If you pull up a graph of your CPU activity you will see that every 10 seconds or so it spikes. Consistently. I haven't figured out why or how to make it smooth, but i believe it is typical across all Ryzen processors.

I have removed TCTL from HWInfo as my temps come nowhere close to justify a +20% offset so I removed it to reduce clutter. I kept TDIE as the reading since it is correct.

Do all CPU_Fan headers read TCTL as a default?

Edited by AlbinoRhino - 15 Jul 2017 at 10:49pm
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Originally posted by PinetreeRoad PinetreeRoad wrote:

Originally posted by baskura baskura wrote:

Now it appears to being controlled by the Tctl sensor (which I believe is actually just a fake sensor).


According to the HWiNFO author the Tctl reading is the actual on die temperature sensor for the CPU. The Tdie reading is the Tctl with the -20c offset.

Source https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-Ryzen-1700x-temp-sensor-which-one

Good to know, I knew one wasn't an actual sensor.
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for fan curve, i prefer using CPU socket sensor. As Tctl is a bit jumpy.

asrock should include an option that let us choose either CPU socket or Tctl. 
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Originally posted by baskura baskura wrote:

Now it appears to being controlled by the Tctl sensor (which I believe is actually just a fake sensor).


According to the HWiNFO author the Tctl reading is the actual on die temperature sensor for the CPU. The Tdie reading is the Tctl with the -20c offset.

Source https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-Ryzen-1700x-temp-sensor-which-one


Edited by PinetreeRoad - 15 Jul 2017 at 7:55am
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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

Thanks Star_Pilgrim, this was just with XMP set to on, no other tweaks at all. It passed all my stress testing then BSOD using chrome for some reason. I will be doing a fresh OS install later this weekend too, I want a clean testing environment to try the new AGESA 1.0.0.6a BIOS out. 

The system has been up and stable for a few hours since the last BSOD, I just upped my RAM voltage to 1.375. After a clean install I will look at things again. I can't rule out OS and driver issues at this point with all the different all in one drivers I have installed on here. 

Remember that setting XMP doesn't touch the Command Rate (probably your modules have 2T CR).
Had exactly the same issue with mine 4x running @ 3200 --- loaded XMP and BAM! it worked but somehow only 99% stable. 

CR needs to be at least checked in e.g. CPU-Z.

If you want to set it you will find it under the advanced DDR settings (first you need to disable Geardown else the CR setting will be ignored).

Njoy your now stable & fast RAM ;-)
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So far CPU running at 3.9 fine. Turned on xmp profile at 3200 and the board failed again.
Looks like I cant win.
Ryzen 1700X
Asrock X370 Fatal1ty prof gaming (1.0.0.6a)
G.Skill 8gx2 3200 FlareX 14-14-14-34 CAS 14 (F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
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what baskura said - i added 20° and it was like before - seems to be related to temperature offset

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Thank you anyway, baskura!
I am looking forward to trying it out.
Change log would be very nice though...
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