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devdeep 
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 Topic: Taichi Ultimate memoryPosted: 26 Apr 2019 at 2:11am |
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Is there a latest QVL for this Motherboard please? Asrock site gives QVL for Summit, Raven and Pinnacle QVL. I am not sure what these 3 mean. I am after 16Gb (8 x 2) G. Skill mrmory
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brkkab123
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Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 3:10am |
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Summit Ridge, etc. is the name for your cpu series. You need to follow the list for your cpu. Side Note G Skill Flare X and Sniper X aree specifically for all AMD Ryzen/Threadripper cpu's.
I have Sniper X DDR4 3600 on my X470 Taichi Ultimate with a Ryzen 2700X cpu. Due me using all 4 ram slots the best ram speeds I can get is DDR4 3266 and DDR4 3200. Using all 4 ram slots that's rthe highrst speed you'll get reliably. You'll only get DDR4 3600 using 2 ram slots. That's a AMD flaw that AMD needs to address still in 2019. |
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gizmic
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Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 9:08am |
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lol @ flaw 2700X is basically specced for 2933 anything above that is your own risk
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Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 3:46pm |
2933MT/s is a very decent speed by everyone's starndards. Very few apps will notice the difference between 2933 and 3600, too. Plus, people are running quad-channel @3200 (4 sticks) and that is an insane bandwidth even in 2019. |
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brkkab123
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Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 5:01pm |
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That statement is kind of funny.
A: Any good Ryzen reviewer specifically states that Ryzen & Threadripper both get better benchmark score with faster ram and that cpu overclocks on both don;t do much performance wise, like a ram overclock does. B: Intel mobo'd/cpu's have no issues with more than 2 sticks of ram and setting the ram & it's timings at the set speed the ram was sold at and even overclocking the ram even higher with tighter timings. Sorry, but4 sticks of ram at DDR4 3200 or 3266 don't compete with ahy non-AMD mobo and cpu that ruuns the ram at the exact speed the rams package says and in some cases even faster with tighter timings. I'm bt no mwans a Intel fanboy and have actually built 1 Intel pc for my self compared to 8 AMD based pc's. I'm just pointing out a area that AMD has alot of room for improving and as a matter of fact to be technical in 2019 higher ram speeds matter more than 16 cores /32 threads cpuu's do, especially as most software and games don't need that high of a cpu quite yet. |
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Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 7:13pm |
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I'll try to be as short as possible. Hope you will get the reasoning behind my points.
If by 'good' reviewer you mean a popular one, you are in a world of surprizes. Any review is only for reference for the specific tasks and run parameters used in it. More so, all reviews point to marginal gains beyond 2933. In fact, due to the increased timings the law of diminishing returns yields no real-world benefit other than increased e-peen. Only bandwidth-limited applications (e.g. renderers, sientific) can see real benefit from huge MT/s. Otherwise you are limited by latencies. The benefit Ryzens get from the increased MT/s in the freq. bump in their IF, which is only good for multi-threaded apps, as it doesn't increase IPC at all. What I agree with you is that AMD have room for improvement in the IMC area. These moster CPUs are often used for builds which require all 4 or 8 slots populated with RAM. And here comes the inconvenience (note I don't say issue or bottleneck) - you need more expensive RAM for this to work. As for intel, they have so many flaws and issues, that I won't consider them worthy for my time at all, let alone worry how their IMC perform. |
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