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    Posted: 07 Oct 2016 at 1:45pm
Spyknee, please bare in mind that we have no idea what steps you followed, if you followed them correctly and what your level of experience is. All we have to go on is your word. This issue is a frustrating one for you as well as those trying to assist you. 

All the errors you are getting indicate you are not following the guides correctly, there is simply no other way you would be getting them unless your drive is defective which by your posts it appears not to be. This isn't an insult or anyone berating you, merely a fact. Moderators here are not required to provide assistance, our job is to keep the forums clean, friendly and spam free. All the assistance we offer is by choice to support the community, we are not paid for any of this. Parsec has clearly spent a great deal of time and effort trying to assist you. It is only natural that he would be frustrated by the errors you keep reporting. 

Parsec is very knowledgeable in this area and has a passion for fast storage. I don't think you will find many people more qualified to help you out. My advise would be to take a step back, clear your head for a bit and then reread the thread, guides and other materials and start over, slowly, step by step. This isn't a simple issue with a simple solution, many professionals have issues with this kind of setup so don't be discouraged that it is taking a while to get right. Once you have done it you will have achieved something very few home users have Wink
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I have tried, over and over, to put you on the right path, but you seem to refuse to believe me.

believe you, I did exactly what you said, didn't work. 
Read the guide multiple times, didn't work.

great post on berating me, but I followed the guide. I do not know what else to say.

I 'm not complaining I want info, this is ASROCK yes? I put up error codes and no response, I'm sorry but......................
ps 
where in the guide do you say enable usb legacy uefi only?
where does it discuss making the system partition 260MB?

Every hardware setup has its quirks, but I have a software glitch, to say I have not given info is just deflecting the issue.
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Originally posted by spyknee spyknee wrote:

Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean about the Taichi manual not being up to date. 

Bear with my frustration. What I mean is that there seems to be certain options in the bios that must work together in order to work with hardware. Being a DIY'er, definition of terms is not enough. That manual is merely a definition of terms. Same as text in bios.

ie: enabling uefi only in USB tab legacy usb options. Soon as this was enabled the pc saw uefi usb sticks as a boot disc.

Guess I'm the Taichi guniea pig......................


I'm sorry but do you think what you are dealing with is isolated to the Taichi board?

The answer to that is a resounding NO! Are you the only person in the world that has a Taichi board and an NVMe SSD?

X99 is not a new platform, its been available for two years. If anything, the UEFI of the Taichi board is based upon the experience of two years of using the X99 platform, and will be easier to use than the two year old UEFIs. The Taichi is just a new model of X99 board, nothing has changed in the chipset over two years.

None of this is new, it has existed for years. I've used UEFI booting for years on SSDs that didn't even need it, because I prefer to actually use the capabilities that UEFI firmware provides. The one UEFI option that enables UEFI booting (CSM) is set by default to BIOS/legacy emulated mode. If you would have followed my instructions, you would  not need to set that USB option to UEFI Only. But, there is more than one way to accomplish it, although given your results, it's not working for you, as it is simply not enough.

Which USB ports are you using? If they aren't the USB 2.0 ports on the board's IO panel, you'll have problems, since Win 7 does not have a built in USB 3.0 driver. Plus a new board will have less than perfect functioning USB ports until an OS is installed on it. So you've never had to use a PS2 keyboard and wired USB mouse with a new mother board before?

I have tried, over and over, to put you on the right path, but you seem to refuse to believe me. Either that, or you cannot explain what is happening to you so I can understand it.

I get it, you don't want to modify, or find it too complicated, to modify the Windows 7 installation media. I provided a link to a guide that has existed for years, since Windows 8, that describes in cookbook form how to do it. I cannot do better. Or you don't believe me that Windows 7 needs this modification.

I gave you step by step instructions on how to install Windows 7 once you have modified the Windows 7 installation files. I have done this myself a few times, although since I know how difficult it is with Windows 7, I abandon it long ago.

When I tell you I've installed NVMe SSDs on my ASRock X99 board, is that a lie? I've installed an NVMe SSD on a Z77 board, that existed before X99 existed, and supports NVMe only via a Beta UEFI update. Yes, I have frustrations too.

You are trying to install an OS on an SSD that uses a completely different protocol than a SATA drive (NVMe) and trying to use an OS that existed and was replaced before NVMe SSD existed. Don't you expect there to be a learning curve in this situation? Plus you are doing this for the first time, in the most difficult way (using Windows 7), on a mother board you are using for the first time.

You barely tell us what you've done, just that whatever you do, it doesn't work.

The errors you are getting are the definite signs that the Windows 7 installation files were not modified correctly. Or something else is wrong. Such as...

You mention some video, I never gave you a link to a video. I have no idea what its contents are, or if it is correct, or if you did it correctly. You mentioned things that you did that have nothing to do with fixing the one folder location that puts the Win 7 EFI bootloader in the correct location, which is the method I suggested. The video seems to be doing it a different way, which may be fine, but may not fit in with the rest of my instructions. So now I am responsible for that?

I learned this by reading that one guide, which is great but does not cover other topics, that I DID tell you about. But the main thing was, I did do it DIY. I never posted a question in a forum. I figured it out myself, and frankly, it is not at all difficult. As I've said over and over, it's Win 7.

I don't know what else to tell you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSbQr4f2YA0

fail

this install error remains the same, crash at 1st rebboot. definitely a software issue but i did what the video, its my exact os, i redid all dl's, re installed all stuff, new everything and same error.

i tried method 2, all 2016 hardware, it popped an error over bcd. 
the file is  there on stick, something not loading at windows desktop start.
getting my arse kicked.
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stop: c0000218 {Registry File Failure}
the registry cannot load hive (file):\Systemroot\System32\config\system or its log or alternate.
its corrupt, absent or not writable.

This is what i get now................................cannot complete the install so I'm not sure where its at...
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Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean about the Taichi manual not being up to date. 

Bear with my frustration. What I mean is that there seems to be certain options in the bios that must work together in order to work with hardware. Being a DIY'er, definition of terms is not enough. That manual is merely a definition of terms. Same as text in bios.

ie: enabling uefi only in USB tab legacy usb options. Soon as this was enabled the pc saw uefi usb sticks as a boot disc.

Guess I'm the Taichi guniea pig......................


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OK

Got beyond the 0x8004242C error.

Your guys diskpart option triggered me to find chit, Anyways using diskpart I was able to manually install partitions. The issue was that the sys part 1, must be a minimum of 260mb.

So install begins, but what happens is that after it reboots out from install process, BSOD. The bios push the RD400 to 1st boot, windows gui starts and bsod. its passes to fast to get the code..................

2 separate install sticks, 2 separate iso's, same crash. 
Video card is a GTX 1070G1. its has gen 3 selected, video op rom policy legacy.

If I could just get that bsod code..............


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Originally posted by spyknee spyknee wrote:

tanx

todays struggle.
The issue with all the boot failures from stuff appears to be due to the fact that usb must be set to uefi only. Then it will boot.

I got a rufus copy with GPT. It loads w7 install, makes partitions, 3, then proceeds to tell me it cannot format the partition, error 0x800424C.

I'm not a pro here. The uefi is all new to moi. Takes me 3 or 4 reads to get things to coagulate. Over years I have built all my pc's.

As far as taichi goes I might just be moving to fast when changing sticks. I have taken to killing power and waiting for board leds to die. Its POST is faster, it always POST's, its just aquireing the right steps for this board that are tuff. 

Parsec your guide is great. It installed MBR 1st try but I want the new so.......and there was some inconsistancies in performance, read where uefi is suppose to step up things a notch with hardware.

Time for a TAICHI owners thread ASROCK. Time to update some stuff to 2016. The manuals are useless, unreadable due to poor printing, little cheap on the ink.


Besides the content of the manual, which I'm not saying is bad, if you can't read it, you can download it in pdf format. I have all my ASRock board manuals on every system I use, including others that I don't own, but for general reference. Here is the Taichi manual:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99%20Taichi/#Manual

I'm not sure if you are saying the Taichi manual should have a section about installing NVMe SSDs, or installing Windows in UEFI booting mode (which can be done with ANY SSD, and I do that on every Windows installation I do), but consider this:

Does the manufacture of the NVMe SSD provide a manual with their product, that describes how to install Windows on it? In the case of the OCZ RD400, I'll let you decide for yourself. Here are two guides they do provide:

https://ocz.com/download/product-brief/OCZ_RD400_Product_Brief_English.06142016.pdf

https://ocz.com/download/drivers/nvme/Windows_NVMeDriver_UserGuide_English.07112016.pdf

If you can find another guide that does, I'd be thrilled to see it.

No offense, but why is a mother board manufacture responsible for providing instructions for the use of another manufacture's product? If their SSD (in this instance) needs special treatment to install an OS on it (which it does), why aren't they giving us instructions about that? Samsung and Intel are not much better, if at all, than OCZ in this regard.

It is not the board that is the problem, it is using a NVMe SSD. They are different, don't use the SATA protocol or drivers. Any manufactures mother board would be the same, if not worse. SOme of the problems users have with other manufactures boards and NVMe SSDs is just crazy.

ASRock has actually been the leader in UEFI booting and in providing the M.2 interface for NVMe SSDs. At one time, the Z97 Extreme6 was the only mother board that could support M.2 PCIe SSDs that need the PCIe 3.0 x4 interface. I have one of those too.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean about the Taichi manual not being up to date.

One more time, the Taichi board is not the problem. I have two NVMe SSDs in my ASRock X99 Extreme6/3.1 board. Two Intel NVMe 750s, one is the OS drive, the other a data drive.

I have two Samsung NVMe 950 Pro's as the OS drives, one on my Z170 Extreme7+ board, the other in my DeskMini 110W PC. I use Windows 10 on all of them, among other reasons because it can be installed for UEFI booting without jumping through hoops.

Sorry to drag this out, but true UEFI booting guide time. Again, doing this with Windows 7 is not easy, you absolutely MUST fix the location of the EFI boot loader folder, or it will NOT WORK!! The guide I gave you earlier describes how that is done.

Everything else in my previous post still counts, nothing you can skip. The following is just additional information.

Two ways to enable UEFI booting:

1. Find the CSM option, should be in the Boot screen, at the very bottom. By default it is Enabled. Click on it to see its options. Find the Launch Storage OpROM Policy option. Set it to UEFI Only. Save and exit.

2. This method requires your video source to be "GOP" compatible. That depends on your video card, if it's fairly new, it most likely is. Some cards I know will be, others not sure. Intel integrated graphics is since Sandy Bridge. What do you use? Find the CSM option, should be in the Boot screen, at the very bottom. By default it is Enabled. Set CSM to Disabled. Save and exit.

Again, when installing Windows, choose the "UEFI:..." entry. Only have the RD400 connected to the PC, no other SSDs or HDDs. For Windows 7, you'll need that OCZ NVMe driver to load during the installation.

Hang in there man, let us know what happens. Thumbs Up
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Different iso image, different USB stick, RUFUS 2.11
GPT for uefi system.
Fat32
4096

same result, creates 3 partitions, fails to format a partition. 0x8004242C error
It is partition 1, 100MB, that refuses format.
Diskpart no good cuz without ocz driver, drive not seen. cmd with install only sees the 2 usb sticks.

So its a common error from 2 different tries, 2 different sticks, same system.
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tanx

todays struggle.
The issue with all the boot failures from stuff appears to be due to the fact that usb must be set to uefi only. Then it will boot.

I got a rufus copy with GPT. It loads w7 install, makes partitions, 3, then proceeds to tell me it cannot format the partition, error 0x800424C.

I'm not a pro here. The uefi is all new to moi. Takes me 3 or 4 reads to get things to coagulate. Over years I have built all my pc's.

As far as taichi goes I might just be moving to fast when changing sticks. I have taken to killing power and waiting for board leds to die. Its POST is faster, it always POST's, its just aquireing the right steps for this board that are tuff. 

Parsec your guide is great. It installed MBR 1st try but I want the new so.......and there was some inconsistancies in performance, read where uefi is suppose to step up things a notch with hardware.

Time for a TAICHI owners thread ASROCK. Time to update some stuff to 2016. The manuals are useless, unreadable due to poor printing, little cheap on the ink.


Edited by spyknee - 03 Oct 2016 at 3:59am
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