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    Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 2:45am
The RAM may be able to do 3200MHz, the CPU may not. Remember that the stock RAM speed for Ryzen 1xxx CPUs is 2667MHz and anything over that is an overclock situation for the CPU memory controller (although strictly speaking enabling the XMP profile is an overclock for the RAM as well, even if it's supposed to be able to handle the XMP speed). In any case, it's really a lottery that involves the CPU, the motherboard and the sticks themselves. Sometimes they just don't care for each other, sometimes they work together like a charm. Now, since you saw some progress changing the SOC voltage, you might be able to push at least beyond 2800 MHz by tweaking the voltages. My suggestion is to set SOC voltage back to auto and RAM voltage to 1.4V (just like gizmic said), then increase the RAM speed to 2933 MHz. If that works, increase the speed to 3000 MHz and check if that's stable. If not, set the SOC voltage to 1.1 V and see if that stabilizes the memory. Also, I'd still try setting the CPU voltage manually. The voltages can be all over the place with the auto setting, which may make matters worse, even if it doesn't directly affect the RAM or the IMC.
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Tried Ryzen RAM Calculator. After I calculated "safe", I've set all the values in BIOS to match the ones recommended by the program. Well, at least all the values I've found. Some (every CAD_BUS ****) weren't present, or at least not easy to find.

However, this didn't solve my problem. Even with the recommenced settings the system won't boot at first start.

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Didn't overclock the CPU at all. Before this I've been using a X370 Gaming K4 with an 1700 non-X CPU. Using the same ram, at least with the Gaming K4 I've managed to get 3000mhz.

And I know those RAM can do 3200, too. It's just that the X370 Professional refuses to boot at that speed. Once it reset the speed to measly 2400mhz, I can enter the BIOS and load the XMP-profile with its 3200MHz. After hitting F10 and Enter, the OS will load normally and stays stable all the time.
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Originally posted by LogicIsArt LogicIsArt wrote:

There's one problem though. I can't get the RAM to work at 3200MHz. Whenever I try to set it beyond 2800, the PC won't start and instead boots for 3-4 times in a row, resetting RAM speed.

How can I make sure the RAM stays at 3200 MHz?


There's no guaranteed way to make sure, as your CPU might have a weak memory controller that prevents getting the most out of your RAM. Have you overclocked you CPU or are you running it at stock settings? If you haven't touched the CPU settings, I would try setting the voltage manually to something like 1.3V to see if that would help stabilize the whole thing.
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Originally posted by SoniC SoniC wrote:

Use the RyZEN Memory Calculator to make your RAM stable.
This is quite easy now.


It should be said that even the safe timings aren't guaranteed to be stable, so this might not help at all.
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do yoursef a favor and get it back to the shop. 
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Use the RyZEN Memory Calculator to make your RAM stable.
This is quite easy now.

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thats a good sign so you have to figure out which settings would make your kits stable till you dont have to manually change all the time. 

you can also set the soc back to auto and try the ram voltages at 1.40 and see how it goes its just strangely you cant run xmp but those how the computer lottery works 
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Hi gizmic,

the G.Skill RAM is a cl 14 kit.

I pushed the soc to 1.1. Afterwards, the system restarted and the RAM where indeed clocked at 3200mhz.
However I got stuck at boot whenever I restart my pc. After three or so unsuccessful boots, the system starts with the ram at 2400mhz again. When I get in the BIOS menu after the many failed boots, I can set the RAM speed at 3200mhz again and the system will start with the set clock.

This is extremely annoying. Not only forces it me to manually set RAM speeds at every startup, it also increases boot time. Unhappy
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these are CL 14 kits or CL 16 kits

assuming the ram works perfectly it should be the cpu that can't handle it try push the soc to 1.1v


Edited by gizmic - 26 Oct 2018 at 4:35pm
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hi xhue,

I did upgrade my BIOS to 4.80 and did reset the board afterwards.
I placed the sticks at slots number 2 and 4 from the cpu socket.
I did not change any settings at BIOS at all, except for AMD-V for VMWare.

Sadly, the system still won't start with the XMP profile Cry
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