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Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

I don't understand your point. The process for adding the NVMe driver from a Windows 10 ISO to a Windows 7 ISO is the major requirement for getting an NVMe SSD to work with Windows 7. So I don't understand what you meant about copying the files from Windows 10 being intriguing.

A similar situation happens with Windows 7 and the Intel 100 and 200 series chipset boards, a USB 3.0 driver must be added to the Windows 7 ISO or the USB ports won't work.

The board is not the problem, it's the preparation of the Windows 7 ISO by adding the Windows 10 NVMe driver that is the problem.


I just found it interesting that you would have to copy files from another OS to get it to work, that's all.  However, I followed all those instructions and the system wouldn't boot. I tried it again from scratch, still wouldn't work.  And you have to add the USB drivers with the Z270 as well, which did work, at least.

It's really a moot point now, for me since I decided to use Windows 10, but I was just curious what the trick is to get 7 to install.. after spending about 5 hours on it.
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Originally posted by Kiran Kiran wrote:

So how does one install Windows 7 using a NVMe SSD?  Intel has this guide:

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/solid-state-drives/Intel_6_Series_PCIeNVMe_InstallGuide.PDF

I followed it but didn't get any further than I had without it.  Windows 7 setup will start, go through the initial phase of copying files, then it does the first reboot, shows 'Starting Windows', and that's it. It never progresses past that point.

I found the part about copying over files from a Windows 10 ISO rather intriguing.

After hours (on top of hours already spent on this board) of trying to get 7 to work, I gave up and went with 10. All this PC will be is a file server.. I didn't need anything above 7. Oh well.

Using the Z270M PRO4.


I don't understand your point. The process for adding the NVMe driver from a Windows 10 ISO to a Windows 7 ISO is the major requirement for getting an NVMe SSD to work with Windows 7. So I don't understand what you meant about copying the files from Windows 10 being intriguing.

A similar situation happens with Windows 7 and the Intel 100 and 200 series chipset boards, a USB 3.0 driver must be added to the Windows 7 ISO or the USB ports won't work.

The board is not the problem, it's the preparation of the Windows 7 ISO by adding the Windows 10 NVMe driver that is the problem.
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Originally posted by rabidplatypus rabidplatypus wrote:

Will a Samsung 960 EVO work on an ASROCK Z87 PRO4 board? I followed the guide and all the settings are correct. The SSD is in an ASUS HYPER M.2 X4 MINI in my second PCIE x16 slot. I can install windows 10 on the SSD, but it does not show up in my boot list after.


As far as I can see, your board does not have a UEFI/BIOS update that adds NVMe support, which is required for most NVMe SSDs like a 960 EVO to be used as the OS drive.
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So how does one install Windows 7 using a NVMe SSD?  Intel has this guide:

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/solid-state-drives/Intel_6_Series_PCIeNVMe_InstallGuide.PDF

I followed it but didn't get any further than I had without it.  Windows 7 setup will start, go through the initial phase of copying files, then it does the first reboot, shows 'Starting Windows', and that's it. It never progresses past that point.

I found the part about copying over files from a Windows 10 ISO rather intriguing.

After hours (on top of hours already spent on this board) of trying to get 7 to work, I gave up and went with 10. All this PC will be is a file server.. I didn't need anything above 7. Oh well.

Using the Z270M PRO4.


Edited by Kiran - 26 May 2017 at 7:50pm
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Will a Samsung 960 EVO work on an ASROCK Z87 PRO4 board? I followed the guide and all the settings are correct. The SSD is in an ASUS HYPER M.2 X4 MINI in my second PCIE x16 slot. I can install windows 10 on the SSD, but it does not show up in my boot list after.
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I just finished my first build on a H270M Pro4 motherboard, adding a i5-7500 processor, 16GB ram, a Samsung 960 EVO and installed Windows 10 Home on that SSD.  The mechanics of the build were uneventful other than one fan did not run initially, the product of a poorly seated connector. The ROM had been updated on the 20th of last month so definitely needed to flash, and Tools | Instant flash quickly found the file I had copied to a memory stick and the ROM was  installed. I then followed Parsec's Method 1, found Boot | CMS enabled, selected Launch Storage OpROM Policy and changed from "Legacy Only" to "UEFI Only."  I confirmed that under Advanced | Storage Configuration that AHCL, the default, was selected - all as detailed in the Method.  Saved and returned, located the UEFI file in the boot order.  Again exited and restarted with Windows installing uneventfully.

Had more trouble joining the Home Group to permit sharing between the new and the old than with the build.

Thank you Persec and to all those contributing to this forum for making my life much easier.

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Originally posted by theBitz theBitz wrote:

Are there any updates to the instructions detailed in the original post for ASRock motherboards based on the new 250 and 270 chip sets?


No, exactly the same, nothing changes and no reason for any changes.

The main, most important thing to do is, regardless of the Windows installation media, USB flash drive or optical disk, is to be certain you select the entry in the boot order for the Windows installation media that looks like this:

"UEFI: <installation media device name>"

Where installation media device name is whatever you are using to install Windows from. It MUST have the prefix "UEFI" before the device name.

You may not need to change anything else in the UEFI, specifically the CSM option at all, to see that entry in the boot order for the Windows installation media.

If you do not get a boot order entry with the prefix "UEFI", then you must configure the CSM option sub-setting, or disable CSM.

At first try, with CSM enabled, set Launch Storage OpROM Policy to UEFI Only. You MUST save and exit the UEFI before that change will be applied. Then check again for an entry with the UEFI prefix. If you disable CSM, you must save and exit to apply it before anything will change.

If you are using an optical drive, either USB or SATA, and cannot get an entry for it with the UEFI prefix, then that device simply cannot be used.

Windows 7 is still a problem, even more so with Intel 100 and 200 series chipset boards, and now with all Ryzen AM4 boards. Besides the lack of an NVMe driver, those boards need a USB 3.0 driver added to the Windows 7 installation media. ASRock provides a utility program to do that, and a version for Ryzen. Check the Beta area of your Ryzen board's download pages.
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Originally posted by zttk zttk wrote:


Hi Parsec!

Thanks for picking this up so quickly. I read through the whole thread and all other forums but with no luck. I put all my answers above in the quoted message. I will try your suggestions and come back later.

Many Thanks!
Tamás

Hi Parsec,

I tried with the new USD drive (mount -> send to) and I disabled CMS. The only difference is that there are 3 beeps when I start the computer. In the boot menu I'm able to select the UEFI USD drive and install windows normally. But the same results. Once the installation is finished the computer restart and I end up with the same boot options. I used all the different setting in the bios around CMS (set it to UEFI, Legacy, Disable) nothing works, no Windows option in the boot menu. Please see printsceen here:

http://www.zofield.hu/letoltes/20170426_213729.jpg

Do you have idea what else I could try?

Many Thanks,
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Are there any updates to the instructions detailed in the original post for ASRock motherboards based on the new 250 and 270 chip sets?
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Originally posted by eComposer eComposer wrote:

Hello Parsec,

Well I haven't been around because the RAID 0 died, and I have only now months later got a basic SSD to finally install Windows.  Bizarre, LOL.


I can't work out why it hangs like this, yet once the M2 SSDs are removed, it will start on a standard SATA boot SSD.  Odd really, wonder if it's something simple I've missed.

Could it be because of the failed RAID 0?  I do not know how to delete the drives or reformat or whatever is needed as I can never get to the BIOS or anything else if they are installed.

Would greatly appreciate any help you can render.  I'm back to square 1 again.  :) 


What UEFI version did you flash to?

Did you change ANYTHING before the RAID array failed?


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