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Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

I don't understand your point. The process for adding the NVMe driver from a Windows 10 ISO to a Windows 7 ISO is the major requirement for getting an NVMe SSD to work with Windows 7. So I don't understand what you meant about copying the files from Windows 10 being intriguing.

A similar situation happens with Windows 7 and the Intel 100 and 200 series chipset boards, a USB 3.0 driver must be added to the Windows 7 ISO or the USB ports won't work.

The board is not the problem, it's the preparation of the Windows 7 ISO by adding the Windows 10 NVMe driver that is the problem.


I just found it interesting that you would have to copy files from another OS to get it to work, that's all.  However, I followed all those instructions and the system wouldn't boot. I tried it again from scratch, still wouldn't work.  And you have to add the USB drivers with the Z270 as well, which did work, at least.

It's really a moot point now, for me since I decided to use Windows 10, but I was just curious what the trick is to get 7 to install.. after spending about 5 hours on it.
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Hi,  i need help installing w7 on intel 600p ssd (and sorry for my English).

 My system is:

Mb : b250m-hdv  (uefi P1.50)

Cpu : i3-6300

ssd : intel 600p 128Gb (ssdpekkw128g7x1)

hhd : Western Digital 1 Tb (I keep its sata cable unplugged)

I tried to install OS from dvd with W7 SP1 but obviously no drive appears for installation so I tried the method in the first post and with method 2 of intel official guide (for my configuration method 2 should be correct so I haven't still tried with method 1 and w10 drivers).

I added USB driver to dvd with asrock utility and then tried to add RST drivers via usb drive during installation (tried with 15.5.0.1051 and also with olders version from intel) but with no luck, drivers seem to be correctly installed (no msg box or other alerts) but again no drive appear for installation.

I made also correct uefi settings in CSM but I could not do any setting for ACHI (I have read that for my MB is a default automatic option) or RAID (no possible choice from uefi)

My 600p is correctly listed in uefi "advanced\storage configuration" as M.2 device and is present in "advanced\NVMe configuration" (uefi report only ssd data with no available settings or possible choices).

Is there a possibility that a uefi update (at least to 1.60 "improve system compatibility") could change the situation ? (I never flashed bios/uefi so I prefer do it only if really necessary)

I still haven't understood what to do: adding RST driver seems that is useful only if you can set RAID and for now I can't, adding native NVMe drivers is not possible because intel gives them only for 750 and above (at least this is what I have understood).

However any advice to solve the situation?

Thanks in advance.


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Originally posted by max150 max150 wrote:

Hi,  i need help installing w7 on intel 600p ssd (and sorry for my English).

 My system is:

Mb : b250m-hdv  (uefi P1.50)

Cpu : i3-6300

ssd : intel 600p 128Gb (ssdpekkw128g7x1)

hhd : Western Digital 1 Tb (I keep its sata cable unplugged)

I tried to install OS from dvd with W7 SP1 but obviously no drive appears for installation so I tried the method in the first post and with method 2 of intel official guide (for my configuration method 2 should be correct so I haven't still tried with method 1 and w10 drivers).

I added USB driver to dvd with asrock utility and then tried to add RST drivers via usb drive during installation (tried with 15.5.0.1051 and also with olders version from intel) but with no luck, drivers seem to be correctly installed (no msg box or other alerts) but again no drive appear for installation.

I made also correct uefi settings in CSM but I could not do any setting for ACHI (I have read that for my MB is a default automatic option) or RAID (no possible choice from uefi)

My 600p is correctly listed in uefi "advanced\storage configuration" as M.2 device and is present in "advanced\NVMe configuration" (uefi report only ssd data with no available settings or possible choices).

Is there a possibility that a uefi update (at least to 1.60 "improve system compatibility") could change the situation ? (I never flashed bios/uefi so I prefer do it only if really necessary)

I still haven't understood what to do: adding RST driver seems that is useful only if you can set RAID and for now I can't, adding native NVMe drivers is not possible because intel gives them only for 750 and above (at least this is what I have understood).

However any advice to solve the situation?

Thanks in advance.




Windows 7 does not have a native NVMe driver, which is the main problem trying to install Windows 7 on an NVMe SSD.

You MUST include an NVMe driver in the Windows 7 installation media. Windows 8.1 and 10 have a native NVMe driver, which is the only one that is used with the Intel 600p. The missing NVMe driver is the reason the Windows 7 installation fails.

The fix for this is adding the Windows 10 NVMe driver to the Windows 7 installation media.

What official guide from Intel are you using?

Including a new version of the IRST driver will not help you install Windows 7 when you are using one NVMe SSD for the Windows drive. That would only matter if you were using a RAID array of NVMe SSDs. There is no need to add any IRST driver in your situation. I don't understand why you thought the Intel guide said to do that.

A UEFI/BIOS update cannot fix the problem. The only fix is to include the Microsoft NVMe driver from a Windows 10 ISO file, in the Windows 7 installation media.
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Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:



Windows 7 does not have a native NVMe driver, which is the main problem trying to install Windows 7 on an NVMe SSD.

You MUST include an NVMe driver in the Windows 7 installation media. Windows 8.1 and 10 have a native NVMe driver, which is the only one that is used with the Intel 600p. The missing NVMe driver is the reason the Windows 7 installation fails.

The fix for this is adding the Windows 10 NVMe driver to the Windows 7 installation media.

What official guide from Intel are you using?

Including a new version of the IRST driver will not help you install Windows 7 when you are using one NVMe SSD for the Windows drive. That would only matter if you were using a RAID array of NVMe SSDs. There is no need to add any IRST driver in your situation. I don't understand why you thought the Intel guide said to do that.

A UEFI/BIOS update cannot fix the problem. The only fix is to include the Microsoft NVMe driver from a Windows 10 ISO file, in the Windows 7 installation media.


Thanks for reply, now the situation is clearer.

The intel guide is this
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/solid-state-drives/Intel_6_Series_PCIeNVMe_InstallGuide.PDF

If I have correctly understood they say that the 2 methods are the same but second is only available for intel 6 generation and above (like my situation).

As you stated, and it was my doubt, I need the native NVMe driver so method 2 is totally useless.

So the only chance is to use method 1 with dism or ntlite with a bootable usb and the 2 KB fix or also this is incorrect and I need only to extract the precise w10 NVMe driver and add it  to original iso dvd or bootable usb drive ?

If there is an explaining post can you point it to me ?

I'm reading how much as possible in the last 2 days here and into other forums to find a solution and I can have involuntary skipped or misunderstood some important posts.
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After have lost my spare time for 1 week, finally i have been able to install W7 on my Intel  600p M.2 ssd.

I hope my experience may be useful to someone in trouble with the install process.

I tried to install with method 2 of Intel guide:

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/solid-state-drives/Intel_6_Series_PCIeNVMe_InstallGuide.PDF

But obviously (after being here the first time) it was impossible for the OS to see the ssd drive because of the lack of a NVMe support, so I tried with method 1 with no luck and tried again with method 1 given by Microsoft:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/2990941/update-to-add-native-driver-support-in-nvm-express-in-windows-7-and-windows-server-2008-r2

Using method 1 Intel/Microsoft  it was possible to see the correct drive and install (both uefi CSM gpt or legacy MBR) but at first restart the system hanged with no chance of a repair install (generic unknown set up failure).

Analyzing  the situation in repair mode I found that the system installed was W7 Professional and  this gave me finally the way to resolve the problem.

I started the Intel/Microsoft patch procedure from a W7 SP1 DVD without ei.cfg file so that during installation procedure one is prompted to choose which version of W7 wants to have (home, home premium, professional, ultimate in my case) and I made the DISM procedure for install.wim file only for INDEX:2 because I wanted to install home premium.

Trying to install after the patch (both Intel/Microsoft methods) there was no more prompt for the choice of the version and I interpreted this as caused by the fact that I made the patch only for INDEX:2 (premium version for me)  and so probably home premium was the only version available by default for installation with NVMe support.

When I found W7 professional on my ssd, I verified on the usb drive (for Intel method) an on dvd (Microsoft method) and I discover in both source folders an ei.cfg preset for professional version; so during the DISM procedure there is a point (I'm not an expert so I don't know) where the ei.cfg is created and added.

I don't know if this file is added only when is not present in the original bootable support or if it's always injected and always preset to W7 Professional.

For me has been enough to delete ei.cfg from the patched DVD and I was prompted again to choose the version and clicking on home premium (my patched version with DISM) I have finally installed W7 in uefi CSM gpt with the method 1 of Microsoft procedure (obviously simply changing the ei.cfg setting to home premium would have reached the same result) .

I haven't  retried the complete install with Intel method but deleting ei.cfg from the usb drive previously prepared complaining that method, the beginning of install procedure became different with the prompt for inserting mandatorily the product key (normal behavior having added w10 files to setup) so probably there is  the possibility of correct install also in that way.

The Intel guide is incorrect at 3.1.3 point 6/7 because unless you change INDEX:3  to install W7 Professional (exactly as the example into the guide) in no other case you can install correctly because you change an index different from 3 but it will be inserted an ei.cfg pointing exactly on the not patched INDEX:3 for professional version.

Obviously I don't know what happens if there is an ei.cfg file in the original boot support before the patch, if it is maintained an so if you patch the correct index (because you want install just that) everything goes right or if it is compulsory set to Professional version causing an install failure if you patch another version index .

The Microsoft  guide is formerly correct because in the note of point 9 it is said that "If there are multiple indexes in step 8, update them one by one" but  could be explained better because if one has read before the Intel guide Is taken to understand that the entire indices update is mandatory for install a previously decided single version (updating only that) and only  compulsory  for maintaining  the boot DVD/usb support capability to install correctly any version chosen directly  at the moment of the install.

In Microsoft method 1  skip the lines for adding drivers unless you need for example USB support or other, but nothing is needed for the 600p install.

That's all and good luck.

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Originally posted by max150 max150 wrote:

After have lost my spare time for 1 week, finally i have been able to install W7 on my Intel  600p M.2 ssd.


Thank you for this info!

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I have an ASRock X99 OC Formula Board.

It has a Samsung 950 Pro boot drive and the latest firmware and Win 10 Pro 64.  Since installation of the nvme drive (I have an older XP-941 M.2 AHCI in the Gen 2 M.2 slot) the PC will not boot from a cold start but will restart fine.  I used the BIOS setting in method 1 of this helpful thread.  There is also a PCI-e Amfleltec Squid card in slot 3 with a RAID 0 M.2 array.  Would that cause boot issues on NVME?

Help is appreciated.



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Originally posted by sauria sauria wrote:

I have an ASRock X99 OC Formula Board.

It has a Samsung 950 Pro boot drive and the latest firmware and Win 10 Pro 64.  Since installation of the nvme drive (I have an older XP-941 M.2 AHCI in the Gen 2 M.2 slot) the PC will not boot from a cold start but will restart fine.  I used the BIOS setting in method 1 of this helpful thread.  There is also a PCI-e Amfleltec Squid card in slot 3 with a RAID 0 M.2 array.  Would that cause boot issues on NVME?

Help is appreciated.



I have no experience with the Amfleltec Squid card.

Which UEFI version are you using with your X99 OC Formula board?

Which M.2 SSDs are you using in the Squid card? What NVMe driver do you use with the NVMe SSDs in the Squid card? What do you use for creating the RAID 0 array with the SSDs on the Squid card? I assume it must be a Windows software RAID 0.

In Device Manager, the Storage controllers entry, do you see an entry for an NVMe storage controller for all of the NVMe SSDs you are using? The XP941 is not included, since it is AHCI.

Do you use the Ultra Fast boot setting of the Fast Boot option?

Did you install Windows 10 on the 950 Pro with any other drives powered up and running at the same time?

Did you check the Boot Order in the UEFI? The entry for the single 950 Pro with Windows 10 should be "Windows Boot Manager" and should be first in the boot order.

What happens or is displayed on the monitor when you do a cold start of the PC? Did you see what is shown on the Dr Debug display when a cold start fails?


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Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

Originally posted by sauria sauria wrote:

[URL=][/URL] I have an ASRock X99 OC Formula Board.

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has a Samsung 950 Pro boot drive and the latest firmware and Win 10 Pro
64.? Since installation of the nvme drive (I have an older XP-941 M.2 AHCI in the Gen 2 M.2 slot) the PC will not boot from a cold start but
will restart fine.? I used the BIOS setting in method 1 of this helpful thread.? There is also a PCI-e Amfleltec Squid card in slot 3 with a RAID 0 M.2 array.? Would that cause boot issues on NVME?

Help is appreciated.





I have no experience with the Amfleltec Squid card.

Which UEFI version are you using with your X99 OC Formula board?

Which M.2 SSDs are you using in the Squid card? What NVMe driver do you use with the NVMe SSDs in the Squid card? What do you use for creating the RAID 0 array with the SSDs on the Squid card? I assume it must be a Windows software RAID 0.

In Device Manager, the Storage controllers entry, do you see an entry for an NVMe storage controller for all of the NVMe SSDs you are using? The XP941 is not included, since it is AHCI.

Do you use the Ultra Fast boot setting of the Fast Boot option?

Did you install Windows 10 on the 950 Pro with any other drives powered up and running at the same time?

Did you check the Boot Order in the UEFI? The entry for the single 950 Pro with Windows 10 should be "Windows Boot Manager" and should be first in the boot order.

What happens or is displayed on the monitor when you do a cold start of the PC? Did you see what is shown on the Dr Debug display when a cold start fails?





Thank you for your helpful post.   I am using P3.10 and I have 4 Samsung PM961 drives in a raid zero created under windows disk management.
Samsung NVME drivers on the 950 Pro and PM 961s.
No fast boot and I don't see windows boot manager in the boot order but the 950 pro is first listed as N1-Samsung 950 Pro.
On a coldstart it does post most of the time and then the windows logo briefly displays and then the monitor goes into power saving mode with the computer running.   Pushing the hard reset button allows the PC to boot and then windows loads and lets me login.
Dr. Debug says A6 on failure.


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Originally posted by sauria sauria wrote:



Thank you for your helpful post.   I am using P3.10 and I have 4 Samsung PM961 drives in a raid zero created under windows disk management.
Samsung NVME drivers on the 950 Pro and PM 961s.
No fast boot and I don't see windows boot manager in the boot order but the 950 pro is first listed as N1-Samsung 950 Pro.
On a coldstart it does post most of the time and then the windows logo briefly displays and then the monitor goes into power saving mode with the computer running.   Pushing the hard reset button allows the PC to boot and then windows loads and lets me login.
Dr. Debug says A6 on failure.




The A6 POST code is related to an error or problem while checking the drives/storage volumes connected to the board, but does not tell us anything specific that would help.

Since you said the Windows logo is shown, and then you get nothing on the monitor, that should mean that POST completed successfully, and the A6 code is just the last one shown on the Dr Debug display, and just was not erased, and is not related to your problem.

Strange you have N1-Samsung 950 Pro as an entry in the boot order, instead of Windows Boot Manager. Windows Boot Manager is the entry I always have for the Windows/OS drive with a UEFI booting installation, even on boards older than an X99 (not that it is old, I have one too.)

Do you have any other entries in the boot order, even if they are really not bootable drives?

Problems that only occur occasionally are the most difficult to diagnose. You could check the Windows Event log for any entries that were posted because of the problem.
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