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    Posted: 29 Nov 2015 at 3:29am
I want to buy a 64 gb ddr4 motherboard compatible with amd r9 390 8gb graphic card (or the r9 380 4gb) and the amd fx-9590 4.7 ghz 16 mb cpu

Does asrock x99 extreme 6 do the job ?
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Originally posted by Razias Razias wrote:

Does asrock x99 extreme 6 do the job ?


No. The X99 platform is for Intel 2011-3 processors.

The AMD motherboards that ASRock has for the power hungry 9590 is their 990FX Extreme9 and maybe their Fatal1ty 990FX Professional.

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Also, there are no AMD processors that support DDR4 RAM at the moment. You'll have to wait until Zen becomes available, which hopefully happens by the end of 2016. Then again, at the moment the DDR4 RAM offers little advantage over DDR3 RAM, so even if you would buy a motherboard with an Intel chipset that supports DDR4, it might still be wiser to save a few bucks and go for DDR3 until the technology is a bit more mature.
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Originally posted by PetrolHead PetrolHead wrote:

Also, there are no AMD processors that support DDR4 RAM at the moment.


Good catch. I totally overlooked that.
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Originally posted by PetrolHead PetrolHead wrote:

Also, there are no AMD processors that support DDR4 RAM at the moment. You'll have to wait until Zen becomes available, which hopefully happens by the end of 2016. Then again, at the moment the DDR4 RAM offers little advantage over DDR3 RAM, so even if you would buy a motherboard with an Intel chipset that supports DDR4, it might still be wiser to save a few bucks and go for DDR3 until the technology is a bit more mature.

This. High performance DDR3 (2400-3000) RAM is still faster than mainstream DDR4 (2133-2400) in a lot of areas, usually for less money. It's only when you start looking at DDR4 with higher frequencies and tighter timings that you will see a noticeable advantage but it comes at a premium. The main advantage of DDR4 at present is power consumption, it uses significantly less power than DDR3 and is capable of higher frequencies, so far up to 4266 and getting higher. Until the Skylake platform matures, and Zen in the near future, it will be hit and miss if systems will be able to actually run these high performance kits at their rates speeds.

I would say that unless you already own the FX 9K you should stay clear of them as they run very hot and more often than not you can achieve similar or better performance from an overclocked FX 8k, especially the 95w parts with less heat. If you do already own the FX 9k then make sure you follow ASRock's recommendation of using a good aftermarket top down blowing CPU cooler to ensure your VRMs and socket are actively cooled.
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Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

I would say that unless you already own the FX 9K you should stay clear of them as they run very hot and more often than not you can achieve similar or better performance from an overclocked FX 8k, especially the 95w parts with less heat. If you do already own the FX 9k then make sure you follow ASRock's recommendation of using a good aftermarket top down blowing CPU cooler to ensure your VRMs and socket are actively cooled.


I agree with Xaltar. The FX-9xxx processors are the quickest AMD has to offer, but I'm not sure they're quick enough to justify the increased risks and uncertainty. It seems that motherboard manufacturers haven't tested their boards with these processors properly and there are only a few boards on the market that I've actually seen people recommend for these processors, even at stock speeds. I'll just add a few things to what Xaltar suggested:

-The FX-8xxx processors that are rated at 95W TDP (for example the newer FX-8xxxE processors) are 95 W because they are running at lower clocks. If you overclock those to, say, FX-8350 speeds (assuming you succeed in doing so), then the processor will essentially become a 125W TDP processor. Similarly, if you overclock an FX-8xxx processor to FX-9xxx speeds, you will have nearly as much issues with the heat as with the real thing as you'll be closing in on 220W TDP. I say "essentially" and "nearly" because you might be able to run the overclocked processor at a lower voltage than what is considered stock voltage for a processor that provides similar clock speeds straight out of the box. However, it is important to remember that the 95W TDP processors aren't producing less heat because they are built better or engineered differently; they produce less heat because they are underclocked.

-I highly doubt that any aftermarket top-down cooler will keep an FX-9xxx processor running. The best I know of is enough for 140W TDP... Basically that CPU just needs to be water cooled and you might even need a custom water loop to guarantee reliability. However, the stock water cooler does nothing to cool the socket and the VRM's, which is a big problem. So, you should absolutely listen to Xaltar and see to it that the parts around the CPU are also cooled. You just need to do it with a separate spot fan (or two).
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The 95w TDP FX 8XXXe CPUs are available in a few different flavors, the 8370e which is 3.3ghz with a 4.3ghz boost and the 8320e which is clocked at 3.2ghz and boosts to 4.0ghz. While yes, they are built on the same process as the other FX line there is some distinction. The 95w FX E CPUs have the benefit of being better binned as well as all the manufacture process refinements that have been put in place since the earliest Vishera's hit the shelves. They still need to be able to stably achieve their boost speeds within the 95w TDP and while yes they are clocked lower on the default clocks the boost clocks are the same as their 125w counterparts. In most cases the "e" variant will hit the same clocks as their non "e" siblings with significantly lower voltage required which means lower TDP. I would not waste time trying to hit 5ghz like the flagship FX 9K, you will need to force far too much voltage into the CPU to achieve stability and likely come close to the 220w TDP of the 9k part. Once you get past a certain frequency on a particular CPU type you need to push more and more voltage into it to get even the tiniest bit more frequency out of it. 4.5ghz is widely regarded as the "ideal" overclock on a Vishera balancing TDP and performance. The 95w variant will have slightly higher odds of hitting that frequency at acceptable TDP levels given its binning and more mature manufacturing node. In testing most 95w TDP FX 8K Es are able to hit non E clocks at a little under 100w TDP and overclock to 4.5ghz at arround 125w. Obviously mileage will vary depending on the silicon lottery but it does seem fairly consistent. 
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I was under the impression that the TDP difference between Es at non-E clocks and actual non-Es was a lot smaller. Thank you for the correction, Xaltar.
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